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2/6/2011 1:40:56 PM EDT
Just picked up a barely used P7M8 w/ 3 mags.  Took it home stripped it, hardly any wear marks or powder residue.
Being a Hi-power fan,  I was a bit surprised by the complexity of parts, but due to the mechanics of the gun its acceptable.  And they do have a good history of reliability.
Fired 300 rounds through it...all flawless...The recoil on it is a bit snappy (comparing to Hi-Powers and CZs) and it can fling the brass
I do find I get a bit of hand fatigue do to me wanting to squeeze the cocker too much.  Its noticeable only after 100 rounds.
The mags can be a $%^&# to load the 7th and 8th round.

Overall fun gun to shoot

Mandatory pic


2/6/2011 3:41:45 PM EDT
[#1]
Congrats on the gun!  

First of all, lighten up on the grip. It takes only something like 40%~ effort to keep it cocked than it does to cock it. Experiment sometime with an empty gun on how well you can keep it cocked using only two fingers on the front cocking lever. You'll be amazed on how little effort it takes.

I agree with the effort required on the last couple of rds in the mag. Here is where a mag loader IS one's friend.  

Must be me, but I don't find the recoil to be more noticeable than my other 9mm's..............  

Have you begun looking for a P7M13 yet?  
2/6/2011 5:26:50 PM EDT
[#2]
I agree; once you initially cock it, you don't need but a few pounds of pressure to keep it cocked. As for the recoil, I too notice that it's quite a bit snappier than my other 9mm's, even though it has a low bore axis. Aside from the snappy recoil, the only issue I had was slide bite. Maybe the webbing on my hand is too fat but it is usually red by the time I fire 100 rounds or so. Aside from that however, the P7 series is probably the safest carry gun out there due to it's design.
2/6/2011 6:13:14 PM EDT
[#3]
I know I don't need to keep a tight grip,  I need to find a happy medium.  If I hold it too light I will uncock it during recoil.

One thing I really like is inserting a new mag and releasing the slide with the cocker.
2/6/2011 8:05:10 PM EDT
[#4]
I wonder if the M8s have a lighter recoil spring? My M8 would also fling brass a mile away and I recall the recoil was a bit stiffer than my older PSP heel release that is softer in recoil and tosses brass just like my Glock or Sig. I find my PSP more accurate too, but I must say the mags are easy to load compared to double stack mags like Glock. At least for me the single stack mags are a cinch.  Awesome guns.  My favorite HAve you learned the two ways of silent decocking?
2/6/2011 10:08:00 PM EDT
[#5]



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I wonder if the M8s have a lighter recoil spring? My M8 would also fling brass a mile away and I recall the recoil was a bit stiffer than my older PSP heel release that is softer in recoil and tosses brass just like my Glock or Sig. I find my PSP more accurate too, but I must say the mags are easy to load compared to double stack mags like Glock. At least for me the single stack mags are a cinch.  Awesome guns.  My favorite HAve you learned the two ways of silent decocking?


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2/7/2011 2:44:31 PM EDT
[#6]
dan, pull the slide back about 1/4th"-1/2" and release decocker while riding slide back forward  or  the other way is when cocked pull middle finger away from grip and  look beneath where trigger guard and cocking grip meets(where your middle finger covered) and push the metal piece in with your finger  and that also decocks the weapon quietly.  Both methods are quieter than releasing the decocker normally and probably puts less stress on the parts.
2/8/2011 8:08:15 AM EDT
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Quoted:


dan, pull the slide back about 1/4th"-1/2" and release decocker while riding slide back forward  or  the other way is when cocked pull middle finger away from grip and  look beneath where trigger guard and cocking grip meets(where your middle finger covered) and push the metal piece in with your finger  and that also decocks the weapon quietly.  Both methods are quieter than releasing the decocker normally and probably puts less stress on the parts.


Interesting.

 






In other P7 quirks, you can fire without clicking the cocking lever by pulling the trigger and then squeezing the grip.  The boom gives it away though







I'm a little hesitant to try your method live.  I'll give it a shot with snap-caps at some point.  Not seeing a whole lot of applied value, but again, interesting and insightful on the mechanics of the P7.
2/8/2011 10:02:49 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:

Quoted:
dan, pull the slide back about 1/4th"-1/2" and release decocker while riding slide back forward  or  the other way is when cocked pull middle finger away from grip and  look beneath where trigger guard and cocking grip meets(where your middle finger covered) and push the metal piece in with your finger  and that also decocks the weapon quietly.  Both methods are quieter than releasing the decocker normally and probably puts less stress on the parts.

Interesting.  


In other P7 quirks, you can fire without clicking the cocking lever by pulling the trigger and then squeezing the grip.  The boom gives it away though


I'm a little hesitant to try your method live.  I'll give it a shot with snap-caps at some point.  Not seeing a whole lot of applied value, but again, interesting and insightful on the mechanics of the P7.


He is correct, both methods work. On the other hand, you can test both methods with an empty chamber; no need for snap caps.
2/8/2011 1:45:11 PM EDT
[#9]
Very nice.
2/9/2011 9:03:00 AM EDT
[#10]
Interesting comment about the recoil, I have never noticed it to be excessive, I will have to take out my M8 to compare with my PSP. And I don't notice the cocking pressure wearing either.
2/9/2011 9:06:33 AM EDT
[#11]
When you rapid fire the gun, do you notice the dust cover heat up?   That was my one comment or nitpic on this gun, otherwise great pistol.
2/9/2011 3:38:15 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
When you rapid fire the gun, do you notice the dust cover heat up?   That was my one comment or nitpic on this gun, otherwise great pistol.


I shot 100 rounds as fast as I could load the mags, aim at the target and slowly squeeze the trigger.  There was the occasional target change about every 4 mags.  No the gun did not get too hot.  Waited about 20 min and then ran another 100 through it.  Again no heat issues.