[ARCHIVED THREAD] - How are Taurus Guns? (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 6/17/2009 11:23:11 PM EDT
| I've heard they suck from lots of people, but I'd like to hear from people who actually own them. I'm curious mostly about the 24 7 series. Have any of you put tens of thousands of rounds through them? Do they function well? Does Taurus stand behind there products? Thanks for any replies. |
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I've had two - early Beretta 92 copy and currently a 85CH J Frame copy.
Both shot well, had issues with the 92 and the lifetime warranty was honored, but it took forever to get the pistol back. As with many things in life - you will get what you pay for. There is a reason you'll pay almost double for a S&W J Frame. |
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I bought my first pistol about a month ago, it was a Taurus PT1911. Being that it is my first, I have to say that I absolutely love the 1911 style, but I'm so-so on the Taurus. Right of the box, from 15 feet away I didn't hit the target once. I later found out it was because of the way I was aiming. I went back and did it again, it hit the target, but not where I wanted it to.
I know it's not that I'm an amatuer, I've been shooting the Beretta 92 with the Army for the past two years and I qual'd expert everytime and I don't know enough about guns to really give an educated answer. It's a hit and miss thing. Some people love'em, some people hate'em. Me? I wish I had spent the extra $300 and gotten the Kimber. |
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I must be one lucky guy. Just bought a third Taurus revolver and it's great. Never ever had a problem. I'd rate the 3 I've had as, Accuracy: Good Reliabiilty: Excellent Fit and finish: Good enough to justify not coughing up twice the amount of money for a S&W. As I posted before in thisTaurus forum, the biggest piece of shit I ever owned was a high dollar Smith and Wesson 4506. It never got thru 2 or 3 rounds let alone a magazine the whole time I owned it and nothing I tried fixed it. As for the Taurus semi autos I never owned one. |
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Wait till the first time you have to deal with Taurus's customer non support. It will make you shy away from Taurus for the rest of your life. And of the 3 Taurus guns I've owned, I've liked two of them a lot. Both 92 copies. In fact, I liked them more than the Beretta 92's I've had since the safety is on the frame where it belongs and not on the slide. I foolishly traded one to a buddy and my SO has the other one. The revolver I sent back and never got fixed is long gone, and for about 50 cents on the dollar if I remember right. |
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I am always surprised by the number of taurus haters that read the taurus section of AR15.COM.
I am not a Glock hater, but I am also not a fan and dont own any. I dont beleive I have ever been to that section or a few others. I am not a huge Taurus fan either, but I do own two that fit the need I was looking for at the time. Both have worked out well for me. Contrary to what I have read, my one dealing with Taurus customer service was outstanding. My first Taurus was a M85 titanium ultra-lite. Right out of the box I was having problems with the sear and hammer engagment. I called cutomer service and explained what was wrong. The man on the phone asked me if I would be home the next day, I confirmed I would be. Fed-X came by that day and picked up my gun, shipped back to Taurus no cost to me. In 9 days the gun was shipped back to me in perfect working condition. Now that is oustanding customer service in my book. The gun still works great and is one of my regular pocket carry guns. 
My other Taurus is a PT1911SSAR, I was looking for a SS 1911 with a rail for a nite stand gun and at $630 the Tuarus fit the bill, it has been 100% right out of the box with my reloads and factory HP's with several kinds of 1911 mags. It is not as pretty as some of my other 1911's nor as accurate. But for its mission its more then accurate enough and functions flawlessly, tough to beat for the price. 
I would not hesitate to buy another Taurus if they had a gun that fit a need for me again. |
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I bought a P145 a week ago and rand around 30 rounds through it. It worked flawlessly. I couldn't hit the broadside of a barn with it but it didn't skip a beat. Feels very good in my hand. I'll just have to figure out the accuracy thing.
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" Benjamin Franklin |
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I bought a P145 a week ago and rand around 30 rounds through it. It worked flawlessly. I couldn't hit the broadside of a barn with it but it didn't skip a beat. Feels very good in my hand. I'll just have to figure out the accuracy thing. "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" Benjamin Franklin same thing with my pt145. so i sold it and bought a glock 26. problem solved. 
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Quoted: I am always surprised by the number of taurus haters that read the taurus section of AR15.COM. I am not a Glock hater, but I am also not a fan and dont own any. I dont beleive I have ever been to that section or a few others. Try actually reading some of the other posts. Instead of being surprised at how many people who have been screwed over by Taurus still post here, how about responding to the actual problems people have had? And not by telling us that you're not a Taurus fan, then in the same breath telling us how great yours are and how great your experience with the company is. I am not a huge Taurus fan either, No, we can tell that.  I would not hesitate to buy another Taurus if they had a gun that fit a need for me again. Right. But as long as you're not a huge fan, that's ok. |
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Actually I was referring to the one liner's "Taurus sucks" "Thier all crap, dont buy" type of post not the ones with first hand experience.
I own well over thirty guns, from many different manufactuers. So if owning two Taurus's make me a fan, then so be it. I am also a fan of Colt, Kimber, S.A., Browning, SIG, ETC, ETC. I am sorry you had such a bad experience with Taurus, but it doesn't change the fact that I had a good one with them. |
| They get a bad wrap sometimes due to their guns from the past. They are much better than they used to be. I own a couple of their PT1911's that have functioned flawlessly. Most of the bashing comes from owners of higher priced pistols, or considering previous guns they had owned. I own a variety of guns from several makers, so far no lemons or junk. The two Taurus I own shoot fine. Take a look @ www.taurusarmed.com for a better idea of what they are putting out now. |
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They are hit or miss... I currently own two revolvers One has been flawless and one had cosmetic issues that had to be fixed.
Most manufacturers are, sadly, hit or miss these days. Taurus makes ALOT of guns. They are bound to turn out lemons. I can't think of a major firearm manufacturer that I haven't personally seen problem children from, or that have had a major recall. Sad really. I've had decent luck with Taurus, thankfully... Colt & Kimber? That is a different story. - AG |
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I've got 3 Taurus handguns. 2 revolvers and 1 24/7 semi. I've probably owned 8 or 10 over the years.
Alll function flawlessly. The only issue I've had is on the 24/7 with the accuracy. I've never bought in to the anti-hype of the guns. Taurus makes good guns and sells them cheap. If you want a quality or premium gun buy a sig. |
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I own 3 Taurus pistols: PT911, PT945, and PT92.
I bought the PT911 several years back, and haven't had a single problem with it. It's accurate enough that I was able to put 10 rounds in an 8 inch circle at 50 yards, without using a rest. I bought the PT945 a couple of years ago, and the only problem I've noticed was that the factory wood grips didn't fit that well. The standard grips were also included in the box, so I swapped the grips and haven't had any other issues. The PT92 was purchased last winter, and I haven't had much time to give it a full workout (ammo being scarce has made me reluctant to shoot up my supply). No feed/function issues, so far. It does seem to have an accuracy problem, and an internet search showed that there are a few 'fixes' to take the slop out, so it seems to be a common issue with this model. |
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i guess i am going to be classified as a "taurus hater" after this but, i bought a 650 cia as a cheap gun to keep in the truck and a pocket gun on those occasions i have to go to those special places in every city where all the murders and robberies seem to happen. this was my first revolver because i am more of a semi auto shooter, but i have never been to impressed with the small semi autos.
at first it was a great gun. nice fit and finish. everything worked like it was supposed to went bang the first 67 times i pulled the trigger. then on the 68th round it went bang but everything got locked up inside of it. after about 15 minutes i finally got the cylinder open to get the 2 live rounds out. then i took it up to the house and cleaned and lubed it good thinking mabey it was dirty or something. then i put some snap caps in it and dry fired. same thing happened again but worse this time. the whole gun got locked up. cylinder wouldn't open, trigger wouldn't come back but the odd thing was this time you could spin the cylinder any way you wanted to with absolutly no resistance. at this point i was pretty pissed. just got a brand new gun and it couldn't even make 100 rounds before breaking. so the next day i take it back to the store i bought it. the gun smith there took it apart and found the problem. (it was something about the lock on the gun came loose and was getting behind the trigger and messing everything up.) he got it working and back together again and dry fired it 4 times and it happened again, so it is currently at the factory where it has been since april. as of right now i own one but it is back getting worked on like most other taurus guns. at this point i wish i would have never bought that thing and paid the extra money for the smith and wesson. i know all gun makers have problems, but it seems like taurus gun have problems more than any other manufacturer. |
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I have two Taurus guns. The first one is a Raging Bull SS in .44mag. It is nicely finished, built very heavy duty. Nice trigger, excellent grips and very accurate. Not so lucky with my second Tarurs, a 24/7 OSS DS in .40 S&W. The accuracy of the gun is terrible. At 25 yards I have trouble keeping the gun on paper using a rest. The guns rear sight was installed slighty canted, The front night sight was DOA (No Light). The gun is a striker fired pistol that has a double strike capability if a primer doesn't fire. I had a problem with the gun going into DA mode during the course of SA fire. It would happen every 10-15 rounds.
Sent gun to Taurus for repairs. Took 7 weeks to come back. The action was fixed, the rear sight wasn't touched. The front sight wasn't touched. When I called Taurus back to get warranty work on the dead front sight they told me that they didn't have any front sights and that they wouldn't cover it anyway. They refferred me to Novak to get a new sight at my cost. When I sent the gun to Novak they found that the sights were not even thiers, it is a knockoff. Taurus clearly states on its website and in their literature that the sights on this gun are Novak. Clearly this company has customer service and honesty issues. I would not purchase another Taurus. |
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It almost never pays to buy Taurus. A NIB S&W J-frame can be had for $400, while the Taurus costs $300-350. A Beretta 92FS costs $450, while the Taurus costs $400. Why bother? When I bought my Taurus 92, last winter, it was $450 NIB. The store had a Beretta 92 in the same display case for $600 NIB. |
| One of the shops I worked for sold alot of Taurus, They were always hit and miss. Ive had to send alot of revolvers back with different problems, Poor timing, lockups, The millinum series were hit and miss as well. I found that most of the problems with the poly guns was due to user error . The beretta copy always had good luck. Im hearing decent things about the 1911. But I have no personal experence with them. Im not a fan of Taurus. But if you have one, and have good luck with it then awsome. I shy away from them myself. Its a company you dont want to take someone elses word on. Try it and see. Chances are from what ive seen, you will eventually move up. |
| My first handgun was a PT99 ss never had a problem with it just did not like it it was to big for a 9mm. I curently have a 24/7 c ds .45 i have not had a problem sith it other then if i manually pull the slide back it wont eject the round very well i have to shake it but it works just fine when shooting. A friend of mine had a pt99 also he had a problem with the safty he sent it back to them nad had it back in 2 weeks fixed. That said i prefer Glock |
| My 24/7 Pro 9mm longslide and PT 1911 have both been flawless. Several thousand rounds through the 24/7 Pro, and around 500 through the 1911. I hope I never have to send either of them back. I'd buy another Taurus, but their customer service reputation does make me think of other brands before I purchase. |
| I own a PT-145 with perfect function, only errors are opperator induced. inexpierenced shooters and limp wrists. Feeds anything throws the brass out and out of way. A kimber would be nice and soon t get one. But for the price it serves what it was built for. Every company produces a lemon. I personally would not but a semi auto Smith&Wesson. But put thier revolvers above all. Bad expierences travel faster and have a deeper impact than those of good reviews. Someone might not own one but have heard from a firend that has has one that was a lemon and therefore his thoughts on that brand are now negative. |
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I sold my PT-1911 this past weekend. The gun ran great out of the box. Only FTF or FTE I ever had were with some real old 185gr. Cor-Bon +P loads. The finish was thin and shitty, the grip panels were horrible (traded them out with a set of Hogue wrap-arounds), and the ambi-safety broke the first time I took it to the range.
It won't be missed. Got my heart set on a Kimber next time around. |
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It almost never pays to buy Taurus. A NIB S&W J-frame can be had for $400, while the Taurus costs $300-350. A Beretta 92FS costs $450, while the Taurus costs $400. Why bother? When I bought my Taurus 92, last winter, it was $450 NIB. The store had a Beretta 92 in the same display case for $600 NIB. Well, it pays to shop around.
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It almost never pays to buy Taurus. A NIB S&W J-frame can be had for $400, while the Taurus costs $300-350. A Beretta 92FS costs $450, while the Taurus costs $400. Why bother? When I bought my Taurus 92, last winter, it was $450 NIB. The store had a Beretta 92 in the same display case for $600 NIB. Well, it pays to shop around. That was the fourth or fifth local store I had checked that day. Another store had a used Taurus 92, with lots of holster wear, for (if I recall correctly) just under $400. The others didn't have any Taurus 92's. The $600 Beretta sold while I was waiting for the "instant" check to be processed, so either that buyer didn't shop around or that was a fair local price. ETA: It was the sixth store I had been in that day - A small gunstore that I've bought a few handguns from, including the Taurus 945 they ordered for me. The gunstore/range where I took the carry permit class (which had the overpriced, heavily used Taurus 92). Two of the oldest gunstores in town. A chain store that was sold out of most of their handgun stock. And the chain store where I bought my Taurus 92. |
| I got a PT 24/7 PRO .45 ACP. NOT that impressed at first. 11 mags later still FTF. and 500 rounds. Sent to Taurus 2 1/2 months later got it back, cause captured recoil spring. 500 more rounds later, still FTF. Called Taurus, they said the usual " send it back in." I took it upon myself to figure out what was going on. All you hear is bad mags, replace the mags. Mine I think it was the gun. I buffed the chamber of the barrel, and feed ramp in case of any fine little burs. Still FTF. Finally when it would FTF, I pushed on the back of the slide to go forward, the round went right in the chamber. So I thought there's a bur on the extractor. Scraped and brushed and cleaned around the extractor area. Seems to shoot decent right now. It's what I carry so it had better perform, or I'm not so lucky. |
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My first Pt99 was really nice no problems. When I was in the market agian to buy a gun I bought a Pt92. This gun was a lemon. First off it jammed every shot if it was anything other than ball ammo, grouped 12" low @25yards and the trigger was pretty rough to me. I had thr trigger smoothed out and the the feeding problem was due to mags. The mags don't hold 17 rnds. Mine don't anyway. After the 10th round is loaded the next rounds are floating in the mag housing. Very annoying sounding like rocks in a tin can a person walks. Got it to feed and feel pretty good, but it still shot low. Finally noticed the barrel wasn't crowned hardly at all and it was what looked like it cocked at an angle in th process. Called Taurus. I told them straight up what problems I had and what was done. I wanted them to fix the muzzel crown. They refused to honor there "lifetime warrenty" against manu defects because of the previous work on the pistol. Pretty piss more. I wasn't asking them to fix anything whith the rest of the gun, but what was a obviouse f*up and they were non compliant.
I had the barrel crowned by my gunsmith and the gun is still shooting abit low but not by too much Ammo choice might correct it. An adjustable sight in the future to dial it in maybe. I'm not going to buy a Taurus ever again though. |
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My PT92 was a turd, the Millennium series is very hit and miss, they do have a lifetime warranty but you will probably end up using it and their warranty/repair process takes upwards of 3 months. this^ I have a friend that bought a 24/7 against my advice. He's fired it 4 times - every range trip something goes wrong. and it's been back twice and no real fix. I believe his issues were extraction, stovepipes, and trigger bar issues. |
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I don't own any and have no plans to buy any Thanks for that useful input. I had an auto, and a revolver, The auto was perfect through thousands of rounds, the revolver through hundreds. I know many friends with the wheelguns and the 1911. The only complaint with the 1911 was on some of the early ambi safeties. Have one acquaintance who says he had too many issues with his Taurus, but he can't tell you want it was, and is generally the kind of person you just ignore anyway. |
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I bought my first pistol about a month ago, it was a Taurus PT1911. Being that it is my first, I have to say that I absolutely love the 1911 style, but I'm so-so on the Taurus. Right of the box, from 15 feet away I didn't hit the target once. I later found out it was because of the way I was aiming. I went back and did it again, it hit the target, but not where I wanted it to. Yeah definitely a piece of sh*t.
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based on what i have read here and on other websites, as well as talking to gun shop employees, i have gathered that
1) Taurus revolvers are good 2) Semi-autos depend on what you buy. seems that the pt92/99 are the best of the semi-autos. the pt1911 series seem to function well, but have thin blueing and cheap safeties. the guns that seem to be the most hit or miss are the 24/7 and Millenium lines, though the newer Millenium Pros seem to be good. i currently own a 85, pt99, and a 709 slim. i used to own a pt1911 and pt145. never had a problem with any of them. |
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I am always surprised by the number of taurus haters that read the taurus section of AR15.COM. I am not a Glock hater, but I am also not a fan and dont own any. I dont beleive I have ever been to that section or a few others. It doesn't necessarily mean they make any effort to read the Taurus board. If your option choice in Active Topics is Handgun Community, you see the most recent threads of *all* the handgun forums, or at least that's how it works for paid members. I don't recall what free members get to choose or see. Just to vaguely remain on topic, my one Taurus (PT58 HC) is pretty much a safe queen and is highly reliable in that role. |
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I just got a lightly used PT1911 that is not that bad.After all the negative I've heard about Taurus,I expected worse.
The extractor tension was so tight,it's a wonder that it even worked.The claw was gouging real bad in the groove of the brass.The contour of the claw was terrible.It appears that they use a cast extractor.That part went right into the garbage pail! The firing pin stop was terrible.Another cast part.It was .015 too small,.005 too thin,and that shitty extractor was clocking big-time.Another part straight to the garbage. I don't think they hand-fit anything at the Taurus factory.Just assemble guns from big boxes of parts,and send them out. Other then that,I can't find anything else wrong with it to complain about.The previous owner swapped out the plastic grips for a nice set of Taurus wood grips,so it looks much better now. For another $50 in parts,I replaced the Extractor,Firing-Pin Stop,and changed all the springs in the gun. Now I've got $400 into the gun,and it shoots just fine.The FCG parts are also cast,MIM parts,but I'll leave them alone. Taurus might have a bad name for a reason,but now I'm happy with what I have.Expect to do some parts replacement,and you will most likely have a good gun.Remember this is a $500 gun,not a $1500 one. |
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I am always surprised by the number of Taurus haters that read the Taurus section of AR15.COM. I am not a Glock hater, but I am also not a fan and don't own any. I don't believe I have ever been to that section or a few others. Try actually reading some of the other posts. Instead of being surprised at how many people who have been screwed over by Taurus still post here, how about responding to the actual problems people have had? And not by telling us that you're not a Taurus fan, then in the same breath telling us how great yours are and how great your experience with the company is. *I* am not a Taurus fan, but I only own three semi-auto's (with over 10-K rounds through each one) that never, EVER had a FTF, F, or E. One is a G-19, one is a Sig 229, and surprisingly, the other 100%'er is a Taurus PT58 (the older 1990 model - it looks like Taurus has changed a few small things on the newer model 58-HC). I (more or less) expect reliability like that from Sig, HK, Glock, and certain S&W's,.. but this little .380 really surprised me (and it's still running perfect). Another Taurus I have is an 85CH. I bought it as a kit-gun because I didn't want to pay $200 more for a Smith that'll just be tossed around and neglected. That thing proved to be one rugged-ass little 38,.. a real champ that just keeps going, and going, and going. The trigger isn't quite as smooth as a Smith or Colt, but you can bet your life on that little wheel-gun. I did have one of Taurus' M-9 wannabes in SS that took three trips back to FL before they got the (feeding) kinks worked out. I wrung it out (about a case of assorted 124gr HP's, 124gr ball, and a couple hundred rounds of the HOT Hirtenberger 115gr +P+ buzz-gun FMJ. IIRC, it only had two FTE's early on (with the same mag), but I could never bring myself to completely trust that pistol for some reason. I ended up trading it for an 870 at a local show. |