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2/7/2008 5:11:29 PM EDT
What to you think about the following light laser combo units?

Streamlight TLR2

Insight M6x
2/8/2008 4:22:46 PM EDT
[#1]
TLR
2/9/2008 2:54:07 AM EDT
[#2]
I own an Insight M6x for my Glock. If you get one, be sure it's the Glock model as they make slightly different versions to match up to a particular handgun, a S&W version being one other example.

I have only done practice around the home without firing. It has a small rotary dial to choose from OFF - Laser Only - Light Only - Laser + Light. It has a lever type ambidextious switch which you can operate with your left thumb (for right handers) when using a two hand grip. Down  is momentary on, up is stays on. Ergonomics are pretty good.

I would think in most situations of actual use, you'd just dial all the way to light + laser. I for one can't see why anyone would go for just a light, as it's very nice having that laser red dot brightly centered in the wide angle light. And, yes, with the light on, the laser is extremely visible (I think its the most powerful that is legal, in any case it works extremely well).

The only down side is there are very few holsters yet for the laser/light combo as opposed to light only. This in spite of the fact the laser is but a very small add on dimensionally.

Just my 2 cents.

2/9/2008 8:43:16 AM EDT
[#3]
Thank you very much for that feedback on the M6X. That was the type of information I was looking for.

How well does it lock up to the rail? Is it nice, tight and secure, or could it move around and lose the zero on the laser?
2/9/2008 3:43:18 PM EDT
[#4]
Funny you should ask. as I have it right beside me since I'm home all alone tonight. There is no wobble side to side. There is a tiny bit of fore and aft play due to the design of the angled locking bar (see below).

I forgot to write in my earlier post that it is quick on and off. To remove the unit, you pull down two tabs on either side which move down a angled bar that snaps up into the one recess in the Glock rail when you push the unit on to the rail. It's angled (sorta like a door striker is angled) so that for installation, it slides on to the under rail without pushing down on the two tabs. You only push down to remove. I guess all such pistol rail attachements work the same way. If you were a total fanatic you might put a itsy bitsy foam/soft rubber bumper where the unit mates to the trigger guard.

I would expect the unit to hold a decent zero taking it on and off. If you think about shots taken in a house in the dead of night, I believe it would be one heck of a professional who would be able to take a shot and have the units laser accuracy being a problem. Unless, the pest was a housefly or a mouse.

I saw a lot of Insight I.R laser/illuminator units on the Army guy's M4's while in Iraq/Afghanistan. That's why I bought the Insight M6X. After purchase, my impression is that the M6x is a very well built and thought out unit and vastly superior to the Glock unit.

Of course, Insight and Streamlight are now the same company.

I also have a Big Dot night sight and matching shallow V rear sight on my home defense Glock. The ideal situation in my mind for use would be to somewhat line up the night sights and then instant on the light/laser.

I agree with an earlier poster. The light/laser combo plus night sights is to a pistol what an Aimpoint red dot is to an AR. It's hard to go back to pure iron after getting a taste of it.

2/17/2008 4:23:22 PM EDT
[#5]
TLR-2 is solid, full featured, and prices are dropping like a rock from when I got mine.  Ya can't go wrong, just be advised, it will not fit any subcompact.  Like most, you need about 1.75" of rail to lock it down right.
2/18/2008 6:56:27 PM EDT
[#6]
Thanks for all the feedback.