Posted: 3/14/2009 4:06:47 PM EDT
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To make sure that the gel "accurately" simulates muscle tissue most people shoot a bb at 600fps into the gel and make sure it penetrates 3.25-3.75 in. Where do you find the magical 600fps BB gun? Where do you get the gelatin mix? I'm not to sure where to get a 600 fps BB gun. Maybe look at a sporting goods store for a pump one and get a chronograph to determine how many pumps it takes to reach 600fps. It has to shoot about 590fps plus or minus 20fps. Gelatin can be bought at any supermarket. But they sell it in tiny packages normally (it cost me $17 for 24oz). Knox gelatin is the standard. Online you can normally buy large 25+ lbs packages of it. |
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To make sure that the gel "accurately" simulates muscle tissue most people shoot a bb at 600fps into the gel and make sure it penetrates 3.25-3.75 in. Where do you find the magical 600fps BB gun? Where do you get the gelatin mix? Crossman 760
http://www.crosman.com/airguns/rifles/pneumatic/760B Seriously.. |
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Nice job. I'd like to see that done with the Gold Dot 124+P round. Once I get the money and time I was planning to test the HST 124 &147, the GD 124, and the RangerT 127. I'm also going to chronograph them all and I wrote an Excel program to calculate kinetic energy/momentum data with standard deviation. But that's for a later date. EDIT: maybe the 147 Ranger Ts as well |
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Nice job. I'd like to see that done with the Gold Dot 124+P round. Once I get the money and time I was planning to test the HST 124 &147, the GD 124, and the RangerT 127. I'm also going to chronograph them all and I wrote an Excel program to calculate kinetic energy/momentum data with standard deviation. But that's for a later date. add the Ranger T 147 as well :0) |
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Where did you find the gelatin? All I've been able to find locally are the 1/4oz gelatin packets, and it would take about $25 worth of them to make about 2gallons of gelatin mix. At Fry's and Bashas' they sell 8oz containers that are full of the little 1/4 oz packets. It's kinda a pain to open them all but oh well. It's like $5 for a container. I'm going to check Costco to see if I can score anything bigger. |
| I was going to shoot some gelatin tests, until I figured the cost of the gelatin. The I thought, the proof is in the pudding, as they say. So, I practice with lead and carry HST or Gold Dots or DPX. If I ever have to use any of these, I hope to see what the damage is and the slug looks like from the Medical Examiner's report. |
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Doctor Roberts says that the food gelatin in the pic isn't the same thing as actual BG - I just asked today. Don't know how different it is though... |
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Quoted: According to THIS link, the type used is Kind & Knox 250-A Do a Google search for Kind & Knox 250-A––lots of information. Evidently one uses fish gelatin and the other type uses pork gel HERE'S another useful link. Yeah - I'd seen the other links before. I didn't know that that was the difference between 250-A and "regular" gelatin packets (fish gel vs. pork/beef gel). |
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Good stuff Looks a bit toasty there, do you see alot of scorpions? I'll try the die next time, I was going to cut the blocks in half to examine them but after the 5.56 round it wasn't worth it. Come outside at night with a blacklight and you'll see scorpions. |
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The technical term is "250 Type A Ordnance Gelatin" I wonder if the fish-based gelatin is used for ballistics because of a strong fishy odor and taste, and the pork for cooking That'd be interesting to know why there's a difference. Aside from taking more money from us. Where on earth is the cheapest place to get 10 pounds of it without paying out the butt? |
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Quoted: That'd be interesting to know why there's a difference. Aside from taking more money from us. Where on earth is the cheapest place to get 10 pounds of it without paying out the butt? Vyse sells it for $9/pound. That's actually a real good price when you compare it to the grocery store (I estimated $16/pound). |
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That'd be interesting to know why there's a difference. Aside from taking more money from us. Where on earth is the cheapest place to get 10 pounds of it without paying out the butt? Vyse sells it for $9/pound. That's actually a real good price when you compare it to the grocery store (I estimated $16/pound). Ya that is pretty good, and the fact that it's legit Ordinance Gelatin is better. I wish I could just buy the gel without the extras to cut the price further Time to get some ammo to test if it's findable. |
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Cool test!! Did you find the hassle of making the gel worth it? I have been shooting water jugs and would like to try gel, I am just not sure all the work is worth it....... Yes it was worth it. I actually found it fun to make. After making a lot of blocks it'll probably get boring. The biggest issue is paying for the Gelatin and keeping it cold enough while you get out to the range. |












