Posted: 3/17/2011 9:32:50 PM EDT
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Actually loaded this in a mag and noticed it while loading the next round. This came out of a 50rd pack from an online vendor. Not very encouraging. I'lll call Federal in the morning and see what they say.
Wow, sorry. 
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I leave you with this, it's more entertaining than this thread.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtAlzo_pqys |
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Actually loaded this in a mag and noticed it while loading the next round. This came out of a 50rd pack from ammotogo. Not very encouraging. I'lll call Federal in the morning and see what they say. OMG!!!! He noticed "it"......RUUUUNNNNNNN!!!!!! Why are your running???? I don't know!!!!! |
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Actually loaded this in a mag and noticed it while loading the next round. This came out of a 50rd pack from ammotogo. Not very encouraging. I'lll call Federal in the morning and see what they say. OMG!!!! He noticed "it"......RUUUUNNNNNNN!!!!!! Why are your running???? I don't know!!!!! NOW I SEE IT.....RUN!!!!!!!! |
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http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-192626.html
urban legend, same happened to a guy in 2006. same story. 
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http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-192626.html urban legend, same happened to a guy in 2006. same story. Damn, that was 7 years ago and they are still doing this...WTF? Wish I'd heard this "urban legend" before I bought this stuff. 
I thought "premium ammo" was subject to higher QC standards. 
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That's why you inspect every round you place in your magazine and pay attention to what the hell you are doing whenever what you are doing involves firearms.
I can believe that a bad round gets through QC every now and then but I have a hard time believing that anyone can be so distracted when handling and loading their firearms that they would place that sort of obvious mutant into one of their magazines. Seriously, visually as well as through tactile means; that upside down round is easily detectable. I hope the OP is simply having a laugh at our expense rather than wanting to believe he is so careless when firearms are involved. |
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That's why you inspect every round you place in your magazine and pay attention to what the hell you are doing whenever what you are doing involves firearms. I can believe that a bad round gets through QC every now and then but I have a hard time believing that anyone can be so distracted when handling and loading their firearms that they would place that sort of obvious mutant into one of their magazines. Seriously, visually as well as through tactile means; that upside down round is easily detectable. I hope the OP is simply having a laugh at our expense rather than wanting to believe he is so careless when firearms are involved. Dad, is that you? Didn't know you had an Arfcom account. 
You're right, though. I admit it was a FAIL on my part as much as it was Federal's. A lapse in attention. But FWIW, there was no firearm involved, I was just loading mags, the gun was in my range bag in another room. And guess what, I still caught it, so I guess I must have been paying some attention. Also the base of this bullet doesn't "feel" a whole lot different than the wide hollow-point tip. The point of the post was just to show that bad rounds do get through QC, even with "premium ammo", and to be aware of that fact. We''ll also get a chance to see how Federal handles this as a customer service issue. |
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I think we have ourselves a new general-purpose "FAIL" graphic. Made for another thread: http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp38/Bludgeonmonkey/fAIL2.jpg  Wow.
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That's why you inspect every round you place in your magazine and pay attention to what the hell you are doing whenever what you are doing involves firearms. I can believe that a bad round gets through QC every now and then but I have a hard time believing that anyone can be so distracted when handling and loading their firearms that they would place that sort of obvious mutant into one of their magazines. Seriously, visually as well as through tactile means; that upside down round is easily detectable. I hope the OP is simply having a laugh at our expense rather than wanting to believe he is so careless when firearms are involved. Dad, is that you? Didn't know you had an Arfcom account.
You're right, though. I admit it was a FAIL on my part as much as it was Federal's. A lapse in attention. But FWIW, there was no firearm involved, I was just loading mags, the gun was in my range bag in another room. And guess what, I still caught it, so I guess I must have been paying some attention. Also the base of this bullet doesn't "feel" a whole lot different than the wide hollow-point tip. The point of the post was just to show that bad rounds do get through QC, even with "premium ammo", and to be aware of that fact. We''ll also get a chance to see how Federal handles this as a customer service issue. I remember a thread where a member had a bad round in his box of Ranger T and after he brought it to Winchester's attention, a certain vendor could no longer sell it to the public as they were doing before. I hope that one stinkin' round of HST doesn't have a similar effect and screw up the sale of HST to non LEO members here. Toss the damn round out and forget about it for Christ's sake. |
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That's why you inspect every round you place in your magazine and pay attention to what the hell you are doing whenever what you are doing involves firearms. I can believe that a bad round gets through QC every now and then but I have a hard time believing that anyone can be so distracted when handling and loading their firearms that they would place that sort of obvious mutant into one of their magazines. Seriously, visually as well as through tactile means; that upside down round is easily detectable. I hope the OP is simply having a laugh at our expense rather than wanting to believe he is so careless when firearms are involved. Dad, is that you? Didn't know you had an Arfcom account.
You're right, though. I admit it was a FAIL on my part as much as it was Federal's. A lapse in attention. But FWIW, there was no firearm involved, I was just loading mags, the gun was in my range bag in another room. And guess what, I still caught it, so I guess I must have been paying some attention. Also the base of this bullet doesn't "feel" a whole lot different than the wide hollow-point tip. The point of the post was just to show that bad rounds do get through QC, even with "premium ammo", and to be aware of that fact. We''ll also get a chance to see how Federal handles this as a customer service issue. I remember a thread where a member had a bad round in his box of Ranger T and after he brought it to Winchester's attention, a certain vendor could no longer sell it to the public as they were doing before. I hope that one stinkin' round of HST doesn't have a similar effect and screw up the sale of HST to non LEO members here. Toss the damn round out and forget about it for Christ's sake. Didn't think about that...consider it forgotten. 
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| This happens with all manufacturers from time to time, and it is nothing new. I have a box of Remington .222 with a crumpled case neck. I bought the ammo 8 years ago, but just noticed the damage a couple of weeks ago. The reason you don't hear more about it is that the majority of the damage is found by people who don't frequent gun forums. |
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That's why you inspect every round you place in your magazine and pay attention to what the hell you are doing whenever what you are doing involves firearms. I can believe that a bad round gets through QC every now and then but I have a hard time believing that anyone can be so distracted when handling and loading their firearms that they would place that sort of obvious mutant into one of their magazines. Seriously, visually as well as through tactile means; that upside down round is easily detectable. I hope the OP is simply having a laugh at our expense rather than wanting to believe he is so careless when firearms are involved. Dad, is that you? Didn't know you had an Arfcom account.
You're right, though. I admit it was a FAIL on my part as much as it was Federal's. A lapse in attention. But FWIW, there was no firearm involved, I was just loading mags, the gun was in my range bag in another room. And guess what, I still caught it, so I guess I must have been paying some attention. Also the base of this bullet doesn't "feel" a whole lot different than the wide hollow-point tip. The point of the post was just to show that bad rounds do get through QC, even with "premium ammo", and to be aware of that fact. We''ll also get a chance to see how Federal handles this as a customer service issue. I remember a thread where a member had a bad round in his box of Ranger T and after he brought it to Winchester's attention, a certain vendor could no longer sell it to the public as they were doing before. I hope that one stinkin' round of HST doesn't have a similar effect and screw up the sale of HST to non LEO members here. Toss the damn round out and forget about it for Christ's sake. Didn't think about that...consider it forgotten. Smart move son. 
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That was probably ammo for criminals. When you fire it, the bullet comes back and shoots the shooter, instead of the target.
If you think about it, it's suprising that this doesn't happen more often. They aren't going to inspect each round, and although with modern reloading machines, it's not a 50/50 chance, whether the bullet will be inserted right or not, there is still the possiblity, that this will happen. |
| Damn OP, that could have been over looked and caused a bad day. I'm glad you caught it. Yesterday I took my new Springfield Loaded to the range with an assortment of Federal and PMC Ball ammo along with 16 rounds of Federal HP self defense rounds in .45 ACP. Everthing was great until I got to the Federal HP's that I was getting rid of via plinking at the range. This was because at a previous range trip I took some of the Federal HP's along to make sure they would cycle and the gun liked them. On that trip I had one dudd round which suprised the hell out of me due to it being SD rounds. I inspected the primer and it was punched hard by the firing pin so it was surely a dudd round. So yesterday I'm getting rid of that particular lot of Federal HP's because I don't trust them for self defense. Upon firing them those were the hottest fucking rounds I've EVER shot in a .45 and I shoot thousands of rounds a year. I mean not only a huge flash came out of the barrel but sparks lingered for a good second after the round was spent. I shot one magazine of them and threw the rest of them in the trash for fear of a Kaboom and also didn't want someone else picking them up at the range and firing them. There was definitely something wrong with those rounds. I am second guessing Federal ammo for a while. |
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Damn OP, that could have been over looked and caused a bad day. I'm glad you caught it. Yesterday I took my new Springfield Loaded to the range with an assortment of Federal and PMC Ball ammo along with 16 rounds of Federal HP self defense rounds in .45 ACP. Everthing was great until I got to the Federal HP's that I was getting rid of via plinking at the range. This was because at a previous range trip I took some of the Federal HP's along to make sure they would cycle and the gun liked them. On that trip I had one dudd round which suprised the hell out of me due to it being SD rounds. I inspected the primer and it was punched hard by the firing pin so it was surely a dudd round. So yesterday I'm getting rid of that particular lot of Federal HP's because I don't trust them for self defense. Upon firing them those were the hottest fucking rounds I've EVER shot in a .45 and I shoot thousands of rounds a year. I mean not only a huge flash came out of the barrel but sparks lingered for a good second after the round was spent. I shot one magazine of them and threw the rest of them in the trash for fear of a Kaboom and also didn't want someone else picking them up at the range and firing them. There was definitely something wrong with those rounds. I am second guessing Federal ammo for a while. You know they just had a recall for the wrong powder. I think you might of had an affected lot. |
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Damn OP, that could have been over looked and caused a bad day. I'm glad you caught it. Yesterday I took my new Springfield Loaded to the range with an assortment of Federal and PMC Ball ammo along with 16 rounds of Federal HP self defense rounds in .45 ACP. Everthing was great until I got to the Federal HP's that I was getting rid of via plinking at the range. This was because at a previous range trip I took some of the Federal HP's along to make sure they would cycle and the gun liked them. On that trip I had one dudd round which suprised the hell out of me due to it being SD rounds. I inspected the primer and it was punched hard by the firing pin so it was surely a dudd round. So yesterday I'm getting rid of that particular lot of Federal HP's because I don't trust them for self defense. Upon firing them those were the hottest fucking rounds I've EVER shot in a .45 and I shoot thousands of rounds a year. I mean not only a huge flash came out of the barrel but sparks lingered for a good second after the round was spent. I shot one magazine of them and threw the rest of them in the trash for fear of a Kaboom and also didn't want someone else picking them up at the range and firing them. There was definitely something wrong with those rounds. I am second guessing Federal ammo for a while. You know they just had a recall for the wrong powder. I think you might of had an affected lot. Damn, that might just explain why the Federal HP's were so freaking hot. Honestly, it felt like I was shooting full house 10mm. The flash and sparks that came out of a SD round would have blinded the hell out of anyone at night time, totally unacceptable. I should be on here more often than I am to get notice of recalls. I went home and took apart the pistol and inspected the barrel, chamber, and frame religously looking obvious signs of cracks and could find none. I could see it being a problem in a pistol whose chamber was not fully supported. I'm glad I got rid of those fucking rounds and didn't just give the left overs to someone. I won't be buying Federal ammo for a while until they get their act together. |
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O_P did this a while back. It'll work. |
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Awhile back I called Federal and asked what was different about the tactical law enforcement ammo and was told it goes through a more thorough quality control check Not very encouraging.  Must have gone thru QC on a Monday morning, or a Friday afternoon!
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That is a special load developed for HK for use only in their remarkable line of pistols. http://www.deathvalleymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/HKBackwardsBullet.jpg Take your pick: either the mag is backwards, or all the bullets are. Probably done right after lunch, and the person had too much schnapps. Would be even funnier if the trigger was on backwards. |