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2/12/2017 11:19:24 PM EDT
Are these worth the $25? Being Apex, i would hope they didn't mess with the spring rates so much that it would affect reliability. What's up with the extended firing pin? Playing around with a 642 and I need to order some stuff from Brownells. The trigger leaves much to be desired, but I don't really want to spend the $75-$100 on an action job.
2/12/2017 11:23:38 PM EDT
[#1]
Best $25 I spent on my two jframes. Both have been reliable since the upgrade. It is very easy to install and does make the trigger feel much better.
2/13/2017 12:09:22 AM EDT
[#2]
My 60-7 trigger is awesome. I often wonder if the previous owner did the upgrade. In single action I don't even feel the trigger break, the hammer just drops. No shit incredible.
2/13/2017 12:43:16 AM EDT
[#3]
Initially I tried to cheap-out and just put in some Wolff springs. Slight improvement. The the Apex kit made a bigger difference in smoothness and pull weight with zero effect on reliability. Pretty easy to put in even without that special tool if you take your time. Well worth the $25 in my book.
2/13/2017 1:08:28 AM EDT
[#4]
Worth every penny. I wouldn't still own my J frame if it still had the factory trigger. 
2/13/2017 10:41:04 AM EDT
[#5]
This thread got me in a j-frame of mind. I'm gonna tote my 649-1 today.
2/13/2017 12:38:26 PM EDT
[#6]
I have seen lots of complaints about the rebound, that it didn't feel symmetrical with the pull. I hope the Apex kit does not make the gun feel like an LCR during reset. I like the positive reset a j frame has, easier for me to tell when to start squeezing again.
2/13/2017 9:20:38 PM EDT
[#7]
I keep hearing about and seeing people install Apex kits in their J frames. It makes me wonder about getting lucky or not. I have a Model 36 and a Model 640-1 from the mid-90's and the triggers on both are superb. Smooth as silk with no stacking, just pull right through.
2/13/2017 10:34:40 PM EDT
[#8]
The trigger on my 340 was so so. I ended up installing an apex kit in it and it made a big diffrence in how the trigger felt. My 342 had a good trigger but the sake of consistency I installed the apex kit so now both triggers feel very similar.
2/15/2017 11:05:21 AM EDT
[#9]
I've installed them on a couple of J frames I've owned. Absolutely worth every penny.
2/16/2017 5:08:39 AM EDT
[#10]
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Initially I tried to cheap-out and just put in some Wolff springs. Slight improvement. The the Apex kit made a bigger difference in smoothness and pull weight with zero effect on reliability. Pretty easy to put in even without that special tool if you take your time. Well worth the $25 in my book.
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Yep, easy way to improve the trigger.  Put the gun inside a large Ziploc bag when you are disassembling it if you are worried about losing the rebound spring.  You can also put a dab of grease on it and it'll keep it from flying out; just be sure to clean up then relube everything before reassembly.  It's also a great time to remove the lock if you have one.  Order the plug from the fellow on the S&W forum that makes them; I also ground off that silly little nub so there would be no chance of anything hanging up.
2/16/2017 7:13:19 AM EDT
[#11]
There good.........but the extended firing pin always bugged me.  Went with wolf springs and brought my trigger pull down from 12lbs to about 9........just change out your springs
3/2/2017 1:09:59 AM EDT
[#12]
I used the Wilson Combat springs in my 442. Cost was around $12? Far cheaper than the Apex kit, but it does not include an extended firing pin. So far ( couple hundred rounds) I have not had any issues with it, and the pull is much improved vs stock parts. I may have had one light strike with some Tula .38 steel case stuff, but I also may have short-stoked the trigger, so I didn't count it against the gun.

The Apex kit comes highly recommended, but the Wilson Kit also gets good reviews.
3/3/2017 12:57:20 AM EDT
[#13]
Actually back ordered the Wilson kit for $9 shipped through Midway. Figured it was cheap enough to lose