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9/2/2011 11:24:45 AM EDT
Can someone explain me why the MP9s have this tail at the back of the slide ?



Seems like they thought it was useless on the 9c..



Did they remove it to make it more compact only ???

did anyone ever removed it from a M&P9 with a file or something ?  Seems to me its pretty useless and looks better without.
9/2/2011 12:46:16 PM EDT
[#1]
the full size ones are designed for holstered use.  the "beavertail" make a big difference in how the gun feels and shoots.  The compact is for concealed carry, so every little bit helps.  there are people that shave the tail of of the full size models.
9/3/2011 5:34:31 AM EDT
[#2]
The "tail" or beavertail is there to improve how well you can do followup shots. The higher up on the gun you can get the less "flip" you will experience. The optimum place to hold the pistol would be on the slide but since it needs to cycle, that is a no go. The beavertail simply lets you stuff your hands as high as possible, literally push your strong hand into it, without risking slide bite.
9/3/2011 6:05:42 AM EDT
[#3]
Here's a recent thread on this.  Well... in part anyway.  The guy did a "chop and bob" on his full size M&P...
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_5_16/113967_Chop_and_bob___an_MP9_for_every_occasion.html&page=1&anc=1180524#i1180524
9/3/2011 7:27:09 AM EDT
[#4]
thank you guys... I don't see how usefully can be such a long beavertail when there is no hammer there..

gonna read that thread now :)
9/3/2011 7:34:36 AM EDT
[#5]
It spreads out the recoil impulse over a larger area of your hand, and increases your leverage against muzzle flip by sticking back further.  Result is more recoil mitigation and less muzzle rise, leading to faster follow-ups.  It's the same reason so many 1911s have bobbed hammers and still have extended beavertails.
9/3/2011 7:39:53 AM EDT
[#6]
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It spreads out the recoil impulse over a larger area of your hand, and increases your leverage against muzzle flip by sticking back further.  Result is more recoil mitigation and less muzzle rise, leading to faster follow-ups.  It's the same reason so many 1911s have bobbed hammers and still have extended beavertails.


never noticed it. I guess it would be interesting to shoot both with and without one after the other.

thank you !
9/3/2011 7:45:48 AM EDT
[#7]
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It spreads out the recoil impulse over a larger area of your hand, and increases your leverage against muzzle flip by sticking back further.  Result is more recoil mitigation and less muzzle rise, leading to faster follow-ups.  It's the same reason so many 1911s have bobbed hammers and still have extended beavertails.


never noticed it. I guess it would be interesting to shoot both with and without one after the other.

thank you !


I'm an IDPA shooter. I shot glocks for almost a decade. The very first time I picked up an M&P my split times improved .02 to .03 seconds every split. VERY FIRST TIME. I've gotten faster since I sold the Glocks and bought my own M&P.
9/3/2011 9:46:12 AM EDT
[#8]
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It spreads out the recoil impulse over a larger area of your hand, and increases your leverage against muzzle flip by sticking back further.  Result is more recoil mitigation and less muzzle rise, leading to faster follow-ups.  It's the same reason so many 1911s have bobbed hammers and still have extended beavertails.


never noticed it. I guess it would be interesting to shoot both with and without one after the other.

thank you !


I'm an IDPA shooter. I shot glocks for almost a decade. The very first time I picked up an M&P my split times improved .02 to .03 seconds every split. VERY FIRST TIME. I've gotten faster since I sold the Glocks and bought my own M&P.


I have a 17 and 19 and a 19C... Im gonna try that and compare it to my new M&P9.. thank you for the feedback
9/4/2011 5:24:40 AM EDT
[#9]
The beavertail also facilitates a faster holster draw, helping to funnel the hand onto the grip. Not much of a help if you are drawing standing from an isosceles stance, but if you are a cop on your side on the ground and have to draw in a hurry, every little bit counts.

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