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7/7/2006 12:19:51 PM EDT
I saw in a video of another arfcom member loading a magazine into a SIG and chambering a round.  Then he puts it in his holster without decocking it.  I would have never thought to do this since there is no safety on mine (p229).  I'm not sure if all SIGs are this way but that is why I'm asking here.

Who does this, and is it safe?
7/7/2006 12:38:36 PM EDT
[#1]
I have 3 Sigs and will not do that.  It is not safe and Sigs are not designed for "cocked and locked" carry unless it is the 1911 model they now make.

I don't care for "cocked and locked" even on a 1911.  My HKs are designed for that as well as da/sa and I don't carry them "cocked and locked".

My dislike for "cocked and locked" notwithstanding, the Sigs are not meant for it unless, again, it is the 1911 they make.  So, I would say it is unsafe and I have never seen a Sig carried that way.
7/7/2006 1:24:10 PM EDT
[#2]
That's what I was thinking.  I just always expect my first shot to be double action if I'm carrying.  Unless I have time to cock, but I wouldn't expect that if the SHTF when I'm carrying concealed.
7/7/2006 5:46:50 PM EDT
[#3]
No way, I don't do it.  I prefer my first trigger pull to be DA, even if it means having to adjust from the DA to the SA.

I practice single DA shots a lot to get used to the increased pressure required for the DA pull.
7/7/2006 8:51:20 PM EDT
[#4]
Sig does make some 1911 models, are you sure it wasnt one of those?

www.sigarms.com/Products/ShowCatalogProduct.aspx?categoryid=25
7/7/2006 8:56:50 PM EDT
[#5]
if it was recent there is also the 220 SAO
7/7/2006 8:59:17 PM EDT
[#6]
My guess is he forgot to decock.

While unlikely, he also might have one of the newer single action only (SAO) SIG’s that has a thumb safety.

Holstering a cocked SIG DA/SA pistol strikes me as dangerous and pointless.  Sorta like carrying a revolver cocked in your holster.

Even 1911 aficionados don’t carry cocked and unlocked – and 1911’s have grip safeties making them safer in that mode than a traditional SIG.

That said, I recently saw a guy carrying a loaded SIG cocked in a holster at the local range.   While I truly hope not - maybe this is something folks are starting to do?

Granted, the SIG DA trigger pull is challenging, but anyone who can’t handle it needs to get a different pistol.
7/8/2006 12:25:04 AM EDT
[#7]
I saw a guy carrying like that at a class earlier this year.  I thought he might have forgotten to decock.  I asked him about it and he started telling me about how safe Sigs are and the drop testing that have been done on them.  Did I mention that he was using a crappy universal Uncle Mike's holster?  The good news (for the rest of the class) was that the holster was tilted in toward his own thigh, so an AD/ND would have been stopped or at least slowed by his leg.  I kept my distance from him for the rest of the class.  
7/8/2006 1:17:38 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
My guess is he forgot to decock.

While unlikely, he also might have one of the newer single action only (SAO) SIG’s that has a thumb safety.

Holstering a cocked SIG DA/SA pistol strikes me as dangerous and pointless.  Sorta like carrying a revolver cocked in your holster.

Even 1911 aficionados don’t carry cocked and unlocked – and 1911’s have grip safeties making them safer in that mode than a traditional SIG.

That said, I recently saw a guy carrying a loaded SIG cocked in a holster at the local range.   While I truly hope not - maybe this is something folks are starting to do?

Granted, the SIG DA trigger pull is challenging, but anyone who can’t handle it needs to get a different pistol.


Most people I know who carry 1911s do so cocked and locked.  They say that's the purpose and design of the system.

Carry a Sig cocked?

No way.
7/8/2006 8:55:12 PM EDT
[#9]
Stupid. No other way to describe someone who is asking for a negligent discharge.

Having a heavy DA trigger (12 pounds for most Sigs other than the DAK) on the first round means way less opportunity to pull the trigger while you're not on target.

We use Sigs at our training center (www.hdsoc.com) and have new students regularly. Quite often, when someone is new to the weapon, they forget to decock before holstering.