Posted: 7/6/2006 1:52:00 PM EDT
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My first pistol purchase was a used Sig P220 with the old style takedown lever. I love this gun and shot it quite a bit before moving over to a Glock, however, I've been thinking of going back to a Sig. I started to read some of the comments on this board and SIG Forum and I'm starting to wonder if Sig is still as good as it used to be? What can anybody tell me about the problems Sig seems to be having? i.e. finish issues on NIB guns, P220 SAO safety doesn't work, GSR disaster, etc... When I decided to buy a Sig, it was because they were considered by most to be rock solid, now with all of this negative feedback, I'm wondering. Okay, have at it. P.S. Glock discussions never involve these topics except for the slimline .45, maybe I'm answering my own question? |
Usually associated with handloads, I've never heard of any factory, NATO spec ammo causing a KB in a Glock, they just don't point as well for me. |
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I have 2 P228s, a P239, a SigPro, and a P220. Never had a single issue in thousands of rounds fired...that's not true...one time the slide didn't lock back on the 228 on an empty mag, and the time a buddy fired a 9mm round in my 220 (did nothing to it.) Great guns! |
negative feedback ?  If you want to start a shit storm you are going to have be more specific Lost my slide lock. New G30 problems loading Help, Glock lockup and failure Trigger bar breaks Why Did Glock Fail DHS Trials? More questions. 6 malfuntion threads on page 1 ! Now go to Sig forum and post what malfuntion threads you see there. |
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I think you will find there is no such thing as a service handgun that is trouble free for everyone, everywhere, all the time, and there never has been...that includes revolvers. I have a couple of the older style 220 .45's (early to mid 1990's pre-rail guns with the old style levers like yours) that have been excellent handguns, and after some early magazine issues with the old blued mags, both run pretty much 100% with the newer SS 7 round mags. I do not trust and will not use 8 rounders. (Call me a dinosaur...I also don't trust or use...except for range use...any 8rd. 1911 mags either) I personally believe that SIG has become a victim of their success to a certain degree. They are no longer able to build guns at a slow pace as in years past, and while they have made some improvements, they have also had their fair share of problems. (you can contact charleyhorse794 for some up to date info on 220 problems) Keep in mind, however, that everyone thinks that THEIR personal favorite is the "best" gun, and that some...not all, but definitely some...who complain loudly have a personal agenda or an axe to grind and may be exaggerating things. So "filter" any info you get with that in mind...especially info from the 'net!  What is undeniable is the fact that there have been several agencies who publicly say that they have had pretty serious reliability issues with the 220 SIGs...the best known of these so far has been Henrico, VA...and from what little I know, SIG has not exactly distinguished themselves by the way they have handled these problems so far. Magazine problems, broken extractors, broken trigger springs and trigger bars seem to be the main issues. Frames on alloy guns seem to hold up well 'till around 50,000rd. of full charge ammo apparently. That is a lot of shooting for a service pistol. Now, sure as all Hell, somebody is gonna accuse me of being anti-SIG, or of over-exaggerating the issues, but I am a whole lot more "pro-reliable service pistol" than I am anti-anything. In addition, I am probably going to be buying a new DAK 220 within the next several weeks, so I think that should tell you how worried I am about the 220 for my personal use. Personal use by a shooter, however, is a whole different ball game from widespread use by officers...many of whom would really rather have a custom made ballpoint pen than a new sidearm. I also own six Glocks. I like the Glock...a lot. Do I think it is a "better" service pistol than a SIG? Not necessarily, but I would certainly have to consider it if looking for one for agency wide use. I think it is a great tool with about as much "personality" as a dead fish or a claw hammer...both of which also have their uses! |
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you may want to consider the source of the "bad raps" for the sig. i dont know of any gun mfg that hasnt had problems with some guns. maybe an entire line, but they try to fix the problem too. afterall isnt it in their best interest to do so? alot of people pass on info from so-n-so, or their ex bros room mate from college said so.. dont pay any mind to the second hand info. as far as the GSR goes, the early ones were built/assembled by someone else. did you know that? if youre concerned with the Sigs, find your reputable Sig dealer and go look at some. ask what the return policy is on them. If the return policy is good, then buy one and try it. thats the only true way of knowing and will put to rest the hear say crap. |
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you may want to consider the source of the "bad raps" for the sig. i dont know of any gun mfg that hasnt had problems with some guns. maybe an entire line, but they try to fix the problem too. afterall isnt it in their best interest to do so? alot of people pass on info from so-n-so, or their ex bros room mate from college said so.. dont pay any mind to the second hand info. as far as the GSR goes, the early ones were built/assembled by someone else. did you know that? if youre concerned with the Sigs, find your reputable Sig dealer and go look at some. ask what the return policy is on them. If the return policy is good, then buy one and try it. thats the only true way of knowing and will put to rest the hear say crap. i have 3 sigs and all of them are well made and finished. I will eventually get the Mosquito too, even with all of the people saying it has a sucky trigger and such. |
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A couple of years ago I owned a 239 in 9mm that would not reliabily fire ammo with hard primers. I was very disappointed at the time to have a gun I had read and heard so many great things about only to have it fail every other round. So I sold it. However, that did not keep me from trying Sigs again, and I'm pretty pleased with my .40 229 so far. |
| i currently own a p220 and a p229.and love them both. i had a near kaboom sunday when i accidently fired a 40 cal round through my p220 in 45. it split the case and formed it to .45 caliber and other than failing to cycle the next round! it worked perfectly and did no damage . again this was operator error not sigs fault. if it had been a lesser gun i could have been seriously injured! moral of the story load your own magazines and BUY MORE SIGS! thanks chestnut |
. I am only going to buy sigs and glocks from now on probably. I may keep my 1911's since i already have them and they don't take up much space