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Posted: 2/12/2023 9:27:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NachoDip: What is special about the blue mag bags? |
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Posted: 2/12/2023 9:53:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NachoDip: What is special about the blue mag bags? https://www.provenoutfitters.com/m17-m18-magazines |
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Posted: 2/12/2023 9:54:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NachoDip: What is special about the blue mag bags? Nothing |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 2:07:49 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/13/2023 10:51:29 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/13/2023 3:56:04 PM EDT
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Great photos. It’s interesting to see how they arrive at a unit (packaging, etc.). I left the line before we received them, so never gotten to see the process with new pistols.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NachoDip: What is special about the blue mag bags? The only small benefit that I’d mention is that so far, all the ones I’ve seen have been made Mec-Gars in Italy. I think those are a little nicer quality than the Checkmate US-made mags. If I’m buying the standard commercial P320 mags, and the price is the same, I like to pick the Italian mags when I find them. Ordering these might give you a better chance of getting those, but I’m sure there are US-made military issue mags out there too. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 2/13/2023 8:18:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/316069/594262DA-175E-4930-A342-3F9AFF385832_jpe-2709220.JPG @LsuJon where is this pic from? |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 9:46:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack_Flag: @LsuJon where is this pic from? |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 2/13/2023 10:14:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SgtKiwi: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/4149/20201118_085408-2709072.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/4149/20201118_085405-2709073.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/4149/20201118_085355-2709074.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/4149/20201118_085340-2709075.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/4149/20221004_065947-2709076.jpg Very nice! |
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Posted: 2/14/2023 11:40:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: NachoDip]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 3ACR_Scout: Great photos. It’s interesting to see how they arrive at a unit (packaging, etc.). I left the line before we received them, so never gotten to see the process with new pistols. The only small benefit that I’d mention is that so far, all the ones I’ve seen have been made Mec-Gars in Italy. I think those are a little nicer quality than the Checkmate US-made mags. If I’m buying the standard commercial P320 mags, and the price is the same, I like to pick the Italian mags when I find them. Ordering these might give you a better chance of getting those, but I’m sure there are US-made military issue mags out there too. I bought a laege amount of mags a few years back. They were all Mecgar made. Didn't know till a little while later that there was a USA made option. I prefer the mecgar. |
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Posted: 2/14/2023 11:43:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_0029_jpg-2658915.JPG  Sig RomeoM17 |
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Posted: 2/14/2023 11:51:26 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/14/2023 1:26:14 PM EDT
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 Attached FileI’m a little amazed a citizen could buy one while Sig was fulfilling the big .mil order. Their production capacity must be phenomenal. |
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Posted: 2/14/2023 3:39:20 PM EDT
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My contract over run came in earlier this week. If any one can post photos of the internals of an issued m18 that would be greatly appreciated.
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Posted: 2/14/2023 5:11:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: My contract over run came in earlier this week. If any one can post photos of the internals of an issued m18 that would be greatly appreciated. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/316069/546EA559-6E57-4185-881B-A9FE2237B63F_jpe-2710951.JPG Got mine as well, like it so much in fact, I ordered a second one today. Beautiful trigger and pre- tensioned barrel….. fantastic shooter! Cp |
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Posted: 2/14/2023 5:49:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Sinister]
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The beauty of the M17/M18 is the trigger can be tuned to give very close to an M1911A1 break with very little take-up; a clean, hard break; and minimal overtravel.
Add a Brouwer grip, an Apex or GrayGuns trigger (with the Apex trigger bar) and you have a P228/M11-size package that rivals the Staccato in size and general handling for a fraction of the price. |
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Posted: 2/14/2023 7:00:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sinister: The beauty of the M17/M18 is the trigger can be tuned to give very close to an M1911A1 break with very little take-up; a clean, hard break; and minimal overtravel. Add a Brouwer grip, an Apex or GrayGuns trigger (with the Apex trigger bar) and you have a P228/M11-size package that rivals the Staccato in size and general handling for a fraction of the price. You mentioned Brouwer and Apex?  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/14/2023 10:01:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: My contract over run came in earlier this week. If any one can post photos of the internals of an issued m18 that would be greatly appreciated. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/316069/546EA559-6E57-4185-881B-A9FE2237B63F_jpe-2710951.JPG @LsuJon take some pics of yours like you want to see of an issued one and I'll try to replicate. |
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Posted: 2/15/2023 10:28:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SgtKiwi: @LsuJon take some pics of yours like you want to see of an issued one and I'll try to replicate. in the mean time, from USMC:  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/16/2023 9:25:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: eaglecp]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: My contract over run came in earlier this week. If any one can post photos of the internals of an issued m18 that would be greatly appreciated. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/316069/546EA559-6E57-4185-881B-A9FE2237B63F_jpe-2710951.JPG Don’t want to hi-jack the thread but have you or anyone with one of the surplus guns considered a sight plate or Red Dot for one of these? I’d like to run my Romeo 2 on one but there is a hole in the rear of the slide? The one post above with USMC Team guns pictured shows a Romeo 1 but I’m wondering how they covered the hole in the rear of the slide? I mean I’d love a Romeo M17 but I’m betting they are 2 years out at this point…. Cp |
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Posted: 2/16/2023 9:30:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: Appreciate it! I'll try to take photos tonight. in the mean time, from USMC: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/316069/CFEC4129-1792-44E8-9AE9-165838A8E55E_jpe-2712665.JPG There needs to be the M17A1/M18A1 that gets rid of that original grip mod and go to the X Series grip. |
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Posted: 2/16/2023 9:32:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sierra-def: There needs to be the M17A1/M18A1 that gets rid of that original grip mod and go to the X Series grip. Brouwer is nice too. Points a little high, but feels good in hand.  Cp |
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Posted: 2/16/2023 9:56:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eaglecp: Don’t want to hi-jack the thread but have you or anyone with one of the surplus guns considered a sight plate or Red Dot for one of these? I’d like to run my Romeo 2 on one but there is a hole in the rear of the slide? The one post above with USMC Team guns pictured shows a Romeo 1 but I’m wondering how they covered the hole in the rear of the slide? I’m personally going to go with the Bobro mounting plate with integrated rear sight if the Romeo M17 takes years to arrive. It’s made to fit either the military or civilian optic cut. Seems to be out of stock most places right now, but Primary Arms had them a month or two ago. |
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Posted: 2/16/2023 10:19:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 3ACR_Scout: I’m personally going to go with the Bobro mounting plate with integrated rear sight if the Romeo M17 takes years to arrive. It’s made to fit either the military or civilian optic cut. Seems to be out of stock most places right now, but Primary Arms had them a month or two ago. They make a great kit, I had one and they are definitely an awesome product. I just don’t need the BUIS, I am not a fan of massively high front sights and fail to see the need for BUIS’s on a pistol. Cp |
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Posted: 2/16/2023 10:57:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 3ACR_Scout: I’m personally going to go with the Bobro mounting plate with integrated rear sight if the Romeo M17 takes years to arrive. It’s made to fit either the military or civilian optic cut. Seems to be out of stock most places right now, but Primary Arms had them a month or two ago. Does anyone know if this will work on the slide marked "P320 M18" not the actual M18? |
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Posted: 2/16/2023 11:06:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GLD1980: Does anyone know if this will work on the slide marked "P320 M18" not the actual M18? Yes they will, they both have the DPP footprint and mounting holes. But the M18 Overruns/ POW has the rear site mounted a little different. Cp |
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Posted: 2/16/2023 11:08:49 PM EDT
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 Mounts that work on the Civilian M17 and 18 should work on the military models. Sig is making a new optic that will mount using that hole in the mil slides. |
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Posted: 2/16/2023 11:56:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By eaglecp: Yes they will, they both have the DPP footprint and mounting holes. But the M18 Overruns/ POW has the rear site mounted a little different. Cp Originally Posted By Postal0311: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/58648/sig_slide_cuts-01-01_1-2674691.jpg Mounts that work on the Civilian M17 and 18 should work on the military models. Sig is making a new optic that will mount using that hole in the mil slides. Thank you both! For those of you using this Bobro mount what front sight are you using? |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 2/17/2023 12:25:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eaglecp: Brouwer is nice too. Points a little high, but feels good in hand. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/354/Z9Cjnh.jpg Cp 
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Posted: 2/17/2023 12:27:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: sierra-def]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eaglecp: They make a great kit, I had one and they are definitely an awesome product. I just don’t need the BUIS, I am not a fan of massively high front sights and fail to see the need for BUIS’s on a pistol. Cp Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eaglecp: Originally Posted By 3ACR_Scout: I’m personally going to go with the Bobro mounting plate with integrated rear sight if the Romeo M17 takes years to arrive. It’s made to fit either the military or civilian optic cut. Seems to be out of stock most places right now, but Primary Arms had them a month or two ago. They make a great kit, I had one and they are definitely an awesome product. I just don’t need the BUIS, I am not a fan of massively high front sights and fail to see the need for BUIS’s on a pistol. Cp @eaglecp Forward Control Designs  (Commerial M18) |
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Posted: 2/17/2023 2:02:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SgtKiwi: @LsuJon take some pics of yours like you want to see of an issued one and I'll try to replicate.  Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 2/17/2023 8:37:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sierra-def: @eaglecp Forward Control Designs https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52688265008_7b52a3c97b_b.jpg (Commerial M18) Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sierra-def: @eaglecp Forward Control Designs https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52688265008_7b52a3c97b_b.jpg (Commerial M18) Thanks for the heads up, I thought for sure that would work but I am puzzled by the disclaimer they have as to why it “won’t work”. NOTE: Army issued M17/M18 slide has slightly different plate mounting, the OPF-P320, RMR, RSD is incompatible with Army issued M17/M18. Cp |
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Posted: 2/17/2023 11:35:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eaglecp: Thanks for the heads up, I thought for sure that would work but I am puzzled by the disclaimer they have as to why it “won’t work”. Cp Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eaglecp: Originally Posted By sierra-def: @eaglecp Forward Control Designs https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52688265008_7b52a3c97b_b.jpg (Commerial M18) Thanks for the heads up, I thought for sure that would work but I am puzzled by the disclaimer they have as to why it “won’t work”. NOTE: Army issued M17/M18 slide has slightly different plate mounting, the OPF-P320, RMR, RSD is incompatible with Army issued M17/M18. Cp Sorry didn't realize you were talking about the .Mil M17/18 and not the commercial M17/18. The .Mil version does not have the two holes the commercial version has and that is why it won't work. I know Trijicon makes a plate for the .Mil version but if I recall has the rear tall sight built in. |
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Posted: 2/17/2023 3:44:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: eaglecp]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sierra-def: Sorry didn't realize you were talking about the .Mil M17/18 and not the commercial M17/18. The .Mil version does not have the two holes the commercial version has and that is why it won't work. I know Trijicon makes a plate for the .Mil version but if I recall has the rear tall sight built in. Actually thats not accurate brother. It does have the same holes to mount the DDP, Romeo1Pro, and Romeo2 footprint optics, the issue is the “extra” hole in the flat area on rear of the slide where the rear site sits. I can mount my Romeo2 I just don’t like having a hole over my striker assembly. That’s why I was looking for a plate that would cover that area but still allow for the mount. It will probably raise the sight some but I would think that’s better than having an open hole in the rope of the slide. The RomeoM17 solves this issue, but not in the short term. Thanks though. Cp |
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Posted: 2/17/2023 5:19:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eaglecp: Actually thats not accurate brother. It does have the same holes to mount the DDP, Romeo1Pro, and Romeo2 footprint optics, the issue is the “extra” hole in the flat area on rear of the slide where the rear site sits. I can mount my Romeo2 I just don’t like having a hole over my striker assembly. That’s why I was looking for a plate that would cover that area but still allow for the mount. It will probably raise the sight some but I would think that’s better than having an open hole in the rope of the slide. The RomeoM17 solves this issue, but not in the short term. Thanks though. Cp Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eaglecp: Originally Posted By sierra-def: Sorry didn't realize you were talking about the .Mil M17/18 and not the commercial M17/18. The .Mil version does not have the two holes the commercial version has and that is why it won't work. I know Trijicon makes a plate for the .Mil version but if I recall has the rear tall sight built in. Actually thats not accurate brother. It does have the same holes to mount the DDP, Romeo1Pro, and Romeo2 footprint optics, the issue is the “extra” hole in the flat area on rear of the slide where the rear site sits. I can mount my Romeo2 I just don’t like having a hole over my striker assembly. That’s why I was looking for a plate that would cover that area but still allow for the mount. It will probably raise the sight some but I would think that’s better than having an open hole in the rope of the slide. The RomeoM17 solves this issue, but not in the short term. Thanks though. Cp I meant the holes that the rear sight plate mount which is the holes used by companies to mount the optic plate to. |
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Posted: 2/17/2023 8:48:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sierra-def: There needs to be the M17A1/M18A1 that gets rid of that original grip mod and go to the X Series grip. ^^^ I’ll second this . |
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Posted: 2/17/2023 11:17:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By XM21Nick: ^^^ I’ll second this . Better option for sure. Cp |
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Posted: 2/18/2023 1:48:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By XM21Nick: ^^^ I’ll second this . Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By XM21Nick: Originally Posted By sierra-def: There needs to be the M17A1/M18A1 that gets rid of that original grip mod and go to the X Series grip. ^^^ I’ll second this . That’s how I set up my P320-M17. Sort of modeled it off this supposed upgrade kit. Sig M18 X conversion kit 
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Posted: 2/18/2023 1:55:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By XM21Nick: ^^^ I’ll second this . Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By XM21Nick: Originally Posted By sierra-def: There needs to be the M17A1/M18A1 that gets rid of that original grip mod and go to the X Series grip. ^^^ I’ll second this . DEVGRU does use the X Series frame. |
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Posted: 2/18/2023 9:57:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HD2006: That’s how I set up my P320-M17. Sort of modeled it off this supposed upgrade kit. Sig M18 X conversion kit https://i.imgur.com/sUAZN1u.jpg That looks fantastic |
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Posted: 2/18/2023 2:20:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eaglecp: Brouwer is nice too. Points a little high, but feels good in hand. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/354/Z9Cjnh.jpg Cp I don't care for the aftermarket grips at all, except this one. Actually looks good to me. |
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Posted: 2/18/2023 2:21:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: sierra-def]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HD2006: That’s how I set up my P320-M17. Sort of modeled it off this supposed upgrade kit. Sig M18 X conversion kit https://i.imgur.com/sUAZN1u.jpg Looks great!  [Edited for wrong emote used] |
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Posted: 2/18/2023 3:25:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/18/2023 4:01:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/18/2023 6:14:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/20/2023 2:50:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/20/2023 8:39:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By S-1: Recon Marine and a SEAL https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/24782/Screenshot_20230218-091103_Samsung_Inter-2715840.JPG Right looks to be a black M17/M18? TTI magazine plate/extended magazine? |
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Posted: 2/20/2023 10:34:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doolz: Right looks to be a black M17/M18? TTI magazine plate/extended magazine? |
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Posted: 2/21/2023 2:11:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: It's a Glock lol Beavertail throws me off on it... |
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Posted: 2/21/2023 10:08:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: LsuJon]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doolz: Beavertail throws me off on it... same training event:  Attached FileAn ODA's m17 from spiritus video:  Attached File |
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