Posted: 2/3/2016 7:55:40 AM EDT
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Just picked up my P320 compact, and looking forward to getting to the range with it. The trigger feels great dry firing and I like the grip feel, but I want to order the Compact Small fame for it and see if that would make it perfect for my hands.
My question is, is there a compatability chart somewhere? There are only 2 slide sizes that I know of. So the compact, subcompact and carry frames all fit the shorter slide? And the full size frame fits the longer slide? What about barrels? Thanks |
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When you mention the size of the grip module, are you talking about the circumference/width of the grip (small,medium and large) or the size of the frame (full,compact and sub)? I spoke with someone from Sig about using the compact slide on a sub-compact grip frame/module but they were reluctant to give me a straight answer. I am sure their thinking is it would deter people from buying the full kit-slide, barrel and grip module, which they would lose money on. A few members here have used a full size slide/barrel on a compact grip and also a compact slide/barrel with a sub-compact grip, and they can be interchanged without issue. I have a compact pistol and have a sub-compact grip frame/module as well for it and it mates up quite nicely. The widths are more of a personal option, depending on the size of your hands and widths of the grip. I have a compact/medium width grip module now, but ordered a compact/small width to try out. At the time, Sig only had the FDE and ODG colors which was perfect for me as I wanted a fde grip module and hopefully it will arrive today.
I have heard Sig has some threaded barrels for it but I am not sure how a standard longer barrel and shorter slide would work,(full size barrel and compact slide), as I only have a compact slide and barrel. |
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There are three slide sizes. Full, compact, sub compact. There are four frame sizes full, carry, compact, subcompact. There are three grip sizes, small, med, and large. While there should be 12 grip modules, I think there are only 9 actually.
The carry and compact models both use the compact size slide. sig evolution |
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Honestly, I'd buy the grip module and if it doesn't work, you're only out about $50. Plus you could probably resell it on the EE I think there is one on the EE right now if you want to buy from an arfcommer (i don't have any affiliation with the seller, i was looking for p320 stuff a day or two ago). Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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There are three slide sizes. Full, compact, sub compact. There are four frame sizes full, carry, compact, subcompact. There are three grip sizes, small, med, and large. While there should be 12 grip modules, I think there are only 9 actually. The carry and compact models both use the compact size slide. sig evolution Huh, I always thought the carry was the full size frame with compact slide. What's the difference between the full size and carry size frame? |
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The sig website is flashy - and singularly un-informative.
As near as I can tell the full size frame has a rail with 5 notches in it, the carry has three, and the compact has four, but the compact notches start in closer to the trigger guard. It looks as though the frame length is the same between carry and compact. But the compact has a shorter grip (less magazine capacity) The carry and full use the same magazine (17/14/14), the compact is slightly reduced capacity (15/13/13), and the subcompact is even less (12/10/10) The full uses a 4.7" bbl, the compact and carry have a 3.9" bbl, subcompact is 3.6" bbl. |
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The sig website is flashy - and singularly un-informative. As near as I can tell the full size frame has a rail with 5 notches in it, the carry has three, and the compact has four, but the compact notches start in closer to the trigger guard. It looks as though the frame length is the same between carry and compact. But the compact has a shorter grip (less magazine capacity) The carry and full use the same magazine (17/14/14), the compact is slightly reduced capacity (15/13/13), and the subcompact is even less (12/10/10) The full uses a 4.7" bbl, the compact and carry have a 3.9" bbl, subcompact is 3.6" bbl. Agree, I cant even get the 320 web page to load here at work. So I was hoping that I could just swap my compact slide onto the subcompact module, but that's a no go from what you guys are saying? Im not going to drop another ~400bucks just to be able to run the subcompact frame. Also, as for the modules themselves, are you guys able to find dealers that are stocking them? |
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Agree, I cant even get the 320 web page to load here at work. So I was hoping that I could just swap my compact slide onto the subcompact module, but that's a no go from what you guys are saying? Im not going to drop another ~400bucks just to be able to run the subcompact frame. Also, as for the modules themselves, are you guys able to find dealers that are stocking them? Quoted:
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The sig website is flashy - and singularly un-informative. As near as I can tell the full size frame has a rail with 5 notches in it, the carry has three, and the compact has four, but the compact notches start in closer to the trigger guard. It looks as though the frame length is the same between carry and compact. But the compact has a shorter grip (less magazine capacity) The carry and full use the same magazine (17/14/14), the compact is slightly reduced capacity (15/13/13), and the subcompact is even less (12/10/10) The full uses a 4.7" bbl, the compact and carry have a 3.9" bbl, subcompact is 3.6" bbl. Agree, I cant even get the 320 web page to load here at work. So I was hoping that I could just swap my compact slide onto the subcompact module, but that's a no go from what you guys are saying? Im not going to drop another ~400bucks just to be able to run the subcompact frame. Also, as for the modules themselves, are you guys able to find dealers that are stocking them? EDIT to add: The SUBCOMPACT frame in SMALL does not have a rail, however, the SUBCOMPACT frame in MED or LRG does have the rail. I went with MED so that the holsters I use for the CARRY version still work the same with the SUBCOMPACT frame. One frustrating thing about the Sig website is you cannot get to the P320 page- it diverts you to the SigEvolution page with the flashy graphics and all. Use this link instead: http://sigsauer.com/CatalogProductList/pistols-p320.aspx |
| You can use a compact slide/barrel combo on a sub-compact grip module, as I have done so myself. Like I said prior, Sig will not give you a straight answer. Even though it is the same unit/width/parts,etc., I am sure it will impact there sales of sub compact slides/barrels. It was one of the reasons I liked this platform and the compact model-I have 2 guns in one. One is a normal size compact with a standard/longer grip and the other way I can use it is for ccw (swap out the compact grip module for the sub-compact)-when lighter clothes are worn, so the gun won't be sticking out/printing so much. In my opinion, the compact model gives you the best of both worlds. |
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You can use a compact slide/barrel combo on a sub-compact grip module, as I have done so myself. Like I said prior, Sig will not give you a straight answer. Even though it is the same unit/width/parts,etc., I am sure it will impact there sales of sub compact slides/barrels. It was one of the reasons I liked this platform and the compact model-I have 2 guns in one. One is a normal size compact with a standard/longer grip and the other way I can use it is for ccw (swap out the compact grip module for the sub-compact)-when lighter clothes are worn, so the gun won't be sticking out/printing so much. In my opinion, the compact model gives you the best of both worlds. Great, this is exactly what I was hoping for. I thought that the barrel & slide were shorter for the subcompact model as well and that would keep me from being able to do the swap. Thanks for the info. |
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You don't need the $400 caliber exchange kit to do what I think you want to do. You can take the upper assembly (slide and barrel) off your current CARRY or COMPACT frame, take the FCU out of the frame, and drop it in a SUBCOMPACT frame, then just slide the upper assembly in place. The only purchase you will have to make is for the frame which runs about $40 - $50. Those are available from Sig, MidwayUSA, TopGun, etc. etc. etc. EDIT to add: The SUBCOMPACT frame in SMALL does not have a rail, however, the SUBCOMPACT frame in MED or LRG does have the rail. I went with MED so that the holsters I use for the CARRY version still work the same with the SUBCOMPACT frame. One frustrating thing about the Sig website is you cannot get to the P320 page- it diverts you to the SigEvolution page with the flashy graphics and all. Use this link instead: http://sigsauer.com/CatalogProductList/pistols-p320.aspx Quoted:
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The sig website is flashy - and singularly un-informative. As near as I can tell the full size frame has a rail with 5 notches in it, the carry has three, and the compact has four, but the compact notches start in closer to the trigger guard. It looks as though the frame length is the same between carry and compact. But the compact has a shorter grip (less magazine capacity) The carry and full use the same magazine (17/14/14), the compact is slightly reduced capacity (15/13/13), and the subcompact is even less (12/10/10) The full uses a 4.7" bbl, the compact and carry have a 3.9" bbl, subcompact is 3.6" bbl. Agree, I cant even get the 320 web page to load here at work. So I was hoping that I could just swap my compact slide onto the subcompact module, but that's a no go from what you guys are saying? Im not going to drop another ~400bucks just to be able to run the subcompact frame. Also, as for the modules themselves, are you guys able to find dealers that are stocking them? EDIT to add: The SUBCOMPACT frame in SMALL does not have a rail, however, the SUBCOMPACT frame in MED or LRG does have the rail. I went with MED so that the holsters I use for the CARRY version still work the same with the SUBCOMPACT frame. One frustrating thing about the Sig website is you cannot get to the P320 page- it diverts you to the SigEvolution page with the flashy graphics and all. Use this link instead: http://sigsauer.com/CatalogProductList/pistols-p320.aspx Thank you for that, and for the link as well. The SigEvolution site that it sends you to is the one that will not load for me here at work. I will go with the Medium frame as well so that the holster will take both modules. |
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Great, this is exactly what I was hoping for. I thought that the barrel & slide were shorter for the subcompact model as well and that would keep me from being able to do the swap. Thanks for the info. Quoted:
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You can use a compact slide/barrel combo on a sub-compact grip module, as I have done so myself. Like I said prior, Sig will not give you a straight answer. Even though it is the same unit/width/parts,etc., I am sure it will impact there sales of sub compact slides/barrels. It was one of the reasons I liked this platform and the compact model-I have 2 guns in one. One is a normal size compact with a standard/longer grip and the other way I can use it is for ccw (swap out the compact grip module for the sub-compact)-when lighter clothes are worn, so the gun won't be sticking out/printing so much. In my opinion, the compact model gives you the best of both worlds. Great, this is exactly what I was hoping for. I thought that the barrel & slide were shorter for the subcompact model as well and that would keep me from being able to do the swap. Thanks for the info. The slide and barrel on the subcompact are shorter than the slide and barrel on the compact or carry, but the slide and barrel from the compact (or carry) will work just fine on a subcompact frame. |
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Well, I know the full slide works great on the compact frame. Ran it at a USPSA match last weekend. The holster was built on the full frame/slide. The compact just loses a couple rail sections but still fits great. http://www.arestactical.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/p320-competition-holster-e1455334715700.jpg That's good to know as well. It may be nice to pick up a full size .45 later and be able to install it on the Compact frame for carrying. All the sight radius with the concealability of the shorter grip. |
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Here's my .357 P320 CARRY slide on the medium SUBCOMPACT frame: http://img.geocaching.com/cache/log/81c01dc7-d9e0-4cd5-97e5-ff47d4e26124.jpg Does anyone know of any subcompact medium grips anywhere? I can't find any in stock. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Quoted: Here's my .357 P320 CARRY slide on the medium SUBCOMPACT frame: http://img.geocaching.com/cache/log/81c01dc7-d9e0-4cd5-97e5-ff47d4e26124.jpg I'm thinking about cutting down a compact frame to the subcompact grip length just so the trigger guard is the same. IDK why Sig decided to change the trigger guard on the sub-compacts, but that was stupid from a holster compatibility standpoint. |
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I'm thinking about cutting down a compact frame to the subcompact grip length just so the trigger guard is the same. IDK why Sig decided to change the trigger guard on the sub-compacts, but that was stupid from a holster compatibility standpoint. Quoted:
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Here's my .357 P320 CARRY slide on the medium SUBCOMPACT frame: http://img.geocaching.com/cache/log/81c01dc7-d9e0-4cd5-97e5-ff47d4e26124.jpg I'm thinking about cutting down a compact frame to the subcompact grip length just so the trigger guard is the same. IDK why Sig decided to change the trigger guard on the sub-compacts, but that was stupid from a holster compatibility standpoint. I agree. I'm not against chopping one, but the pictures I've seen have the baseplate shy of the font of the grip by a little bit. Another thing that bugs me is why the floorplates on the 17,15, and 12 round mags aren't interchangeable. Come on SIG, take a hint from Glock on this stuff. I really want to like this gun, but the lack of attention to detail on the little things for their modular handgun system bother me. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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That's good to know as well. It may be nice to pick up a full size .45 later and be able to install it on the Compact frame for carrying. All the sight radius with the concealability of the shorter grip. Quoted:
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Well, I know the full slide works great on the compact frame. Ran it at a USPSA match last weekend. The holster was built on the full frame/slide. The compact just loses a couple rail sections but still fits great. http://www.arestactical.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/p320-competition-holster-e1455334715700.jpg That's good to know as well. It may be nice to pick up a full size .45 later and be able to install it on the Compact frame for carrying. All the sight radius with the concealability of the shorter grip. Just a clarification. Unless something has changed recently the .45 trigger group is different than the 9/.357/.40 trigger group. You can't put a .45 acp on any of the 9/.357/.40 modules and visa versa. |
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Just a clarification. Unless something has changed recently the .45 trigger group is different than the 9/.357/.40 trigger group. You can't put a .45 acp on any of the 9/.357/.40 modules and visa versa. Quoted:
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Well, I know the full slide works great on the compact frame. Ran it at a USPSA match last weekend. The holster was built on the full frame/slide. The compact just loses a couple rail sections but still fits great. http://www.arestactical.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/p320-competition-holster-e1455334715700.jpg That's good to know as well. It may be nice to pick up a full size .45 later and be able to install it on the Compact frame for carrying. All the sight radius with the concealability of the shorter grip. Just a clarification. Unless something has changed recently the .45 trigger group is different than the 9/.357/.40 trigger group. You can't put a .45 acp on any of the 9/.357/.40 modules and visa versa. That's my understanding for the 320 as well. But I think for the 250 you can swap the .45s with the 9/40/357 |
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I'm thinking about cutting down a compact frame to the subcompact grip length just so the trigger guard is the same. IDK why Sig decided to change the trigger guard on the sub-compacts, but that was stupid from a holster compatibility standpoint. Quoted:
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Here's my .357 P320 CARRY slide on the medium SUBCOMPACT frame:  I'm thinking about cutting down a compact frame to the subcompact grip length just so the trigger guard is the same. IDK why Sig decided to change the trigger guard on the sub-compacts, but that was stupid from a holster compatibility standpoint. The Bladetech holster worked just as well with the rounded trigger guard as it did with the square one it was made for. Seriously, the round trigger guard clicked right in like the holster was made for it. So for the Bladetech holster it was a non-issue. |
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Just a clarification. Unless something has changed recently the .45 trigger group is different than the 9/.357/.40 trigger group. You can't put a .45 acp on any of the 9/.357/.40 modules and visa versa. Quoted:
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Well, I know the full slide works great on the compact frame. Ran it at a USPSA match last weekend. The holster was built on the full frame/slide. The compact just loses a couple rail sections but still fits great. http://www.arestactical.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/p320-competition-holster-e1455334715700.jpg That's good to know as well. It may be nice to pick up a full size .45 later and be able to install it on the Compact frame for carrying. All the sight radius with the concealability of the shorter grip. Just a clarification. Unless something has changed recently the .45 trigger group is different than the 9/.357/.40 trigger group. You can't put a .45 acp on any of the 9/.357/.40 modules and visa versa. Sorry, I worded that kind of poorly. I meant that I may pick up a whole new .45 Full Size gun, and then be able to run the compact module if I chose to carry it. Im afraid the compact .45 would be a handful, but ive never shot one either. |
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Looks rowdy, I like it. |
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Looks rowdy, I like it. Same here. Does anyone know if they are keeping the FS slide for the Target model or if they are going to give us something a little more G34 than G17? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Quoted: I actually swapped my FCU into the subcompact frame today JUST to make sure it works with my holsters. My leather Tucker doesn't care about the trigger guard shape, but I was worried the Bladetech might not like it. The Bladetech holster worked just as well with the rounded trigger guard as it did with the square one it was made for. Seriously, the round trigger guard clicked right in like the holster was made for it. So for the Bladetech holster it was a non-issue. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Here's my .357 P320 CARRY slide on the medium SUBCOMPACT frame: http://img.geocaching.com/cache/log/81c01dc7-d9e0-4cd5-97e5-ff47d4e26124.jpg I'm thinking about cutting down a compact frame to the subcompact grip length just so the trigger guard is the same. IDK why Sig decided to change the trigger guard on the sub-compacts, but that was stupid from a holster compatibility standpoint. The Bladetech holster worked just as well with the rounded trigger guard as it did with the square one it was made for. Seriously, the round trigger guard clicked right in like the holster was made for it. So for the Bladetech holster it was a non-issue. |
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Here's my .357 P320 CARRY slide on the medium SUBCOMPACT frame: I'm thinking about cutting down a compact frame to the subcompact grip length just so the trigger guard is the same. IDK why Sig decided to change the trigger guard on the sub-compacts, but that was stupid from a holster compatibility standpoint. The Bladetech holster worked just as well with the rounded trigger guard as it did with the square one it was made for. Seriously, the round trigger guard clicked right in like the holster was made for it. So for the Bladetech holster it was a non-issue. Apex flat trigger. |
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I'm thinking about cutting down a compact frame to the subcompact grip length just so the trigger guard is the same. IDK why Sig decided to change the trigger guard on the sub-compacts, but that was stupid from a holster compatibility standpoint. Quoted:
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Here's my .357 P320 CARRY slide on the medium SUBCOMPACT frame: http://img.geocaching.com/cache/log/81c01dc7-d9e0-4cd5-97e5-ff47d4e26124.jpg I'm thinking about cutting down a compact frame to the subcompact grip length just so the trigger guard is the same. IDK why Sig decided to change the trigger guard on the sub-compacts, but that was stupid from a holster compatibility standpoint. Just a small update: I located a S-M frame and finally got around to making a Kydex holster for the C-M sized frame today. The S-M frame mated to my Compact-length slide fits and locks in without issue despite the different trigger guard shape. Even so, I still find it a little irritating that they don't match aesthetically. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |