Posted: 12/5/2015 11:32:40 AM EDT
| Should I get one? I'm pretty much a glock fanboy but I played with an m11a1 yesterday and the srt trigger is just great. Ergos might take a while to get used to. I'd like to carry appendix but don't know if I actually will with something that big. |
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Its my EDC. I carry it in a Milt Sparks IWB at the 3:30-4 o'clock position. Never carried appendix, so I can't comment. This is my first SIG with the SRT and it is the tits. Probably will change over the others at some point. I have about 1000 rounds through, all different type and have had no problems. |
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Love mine and have had no issues, which isn't always the case for Sigs these days.
The grips may be wide for some folks. Many prefer the E2 grips that are on most of the standard P229 models. I suppose I am in the minority since I always liked the grips on my W. German P228 (below left)...and the M11-A1's grips (below right) are the same: 
Some folks get pissy that the grips say "P228" and that Sig formerly marketed it as an updated P228. Hell, car models get updated every year without a name change, but apparently you can't have an updated version of a pistol without pissing off the purists, so they stopped marketing it that way. Whatever. I suppose it is true that it is essentially a special model of the P229. Its primary difference from the rest of the P229 line is that it has no rail. The SAS Gen 2 is the only other P229 model without a rail...and it is also a fine pistol. Both come with SIGLITE night sights and SRT. Primary differences between the two: M11-A1 - Old style P228 grips - Corrosion-resistant internals - UID decal (removed easily enough) - Only available in 9mm P229 SAS Gen 2: - Newer style E2 grips - Melt treatment - Color-filled custom shop engraving on slide (not so easily removed) - Can get in 9mm, .357SIG, or .40 S&W...and converting between calibers is easier And if you want a rail, there are many other 229 models, including the new Legion. Either way, it's going to be a world of difference from a Glock, especially with regards to weight, ergos, SA/DA, and the decocker. Those are actually the features I love about Sigs (and why I like my Glock less), but many folks dislike the SA/DA setup. |
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Do it. Only thing I changed was the thin trigger for the standard size because it bit me. The DA smoothes up perceptibly with enough dry fire. The single action is as nice as 1911's I own. Once you add up everything it comes with stock it's hard to pass up. It's easy to shoot well.
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Love mine and have had no issues, which isn't always the case for Sigs these days. The grips may be wide for some folks. Many prefer the E2 grips that are on most of the standard P229 models. I suppose I am in the minority since I always liked the grips on my W. German P228 (below left)...and the M11-A1's grips (below right) are the same: Some folks get pissy that the grips say "P228" and that Sig formerly marketed it as an updated P228. Hell, car models get updated every year without a name change, but apparently you can't have an updated version of a pistol without pissing off the purists, so they stopped marketing it that way. Whatever. I suppose it is true that it is essentially a special model of the P229. Its primary difference from the rest of the P229 line is that it has no rail. The SAS Gen 2 is the only other P229 model without a rail...and it is also a fine pistol. Both come with SIGLITE night sights and SRT. Primary differences between the two: M11-A1 - Old style P228 grips - Corrosion-resistant internals - UID decal (removed easily enough) - Only available in 9mm P229 SAS Gen 2: - Newer style E2 grips - Melt treatment - Color-filled custom shop engraving on slide (not so easily removed) - Can get in 9mm, .357SIG, or .40 S&W...and converting between calibers is easier And if you want a rail, there are many other 229 models, including the new Legion. Either way, it's going to be a world of difference from a Glock, especially with regards to weight, ergos, SA/DA, and the decocker. Those are actually the features I love about Sigs (and why I like my Glock less), but many folks dislike the SA/DA setup. Thanks for the write-up! What about the logo on the top of slide? Is it as ugly in person as it is online? Or is it less noticeable? |
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Do it. Only thing I changed was the thin trigger for the standard size because it bit me. The DA smoothes up perceptibly with enough dry fire. The single action is as nice as 1911's I own. Once you add up everything it comes with stock it's hard to pass up. It's easy to shoot well. Skinny trigger bit me too, I put a standard trigger and E2 grips on it. Now the M11-A1 is my favorite gun. |
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Love mine and have had no issues, which isn't always the case for Sigs these days. What issues have you had with other Sigs? Minor issues with a P232 I bought last year, but I wasn't referring primarily to my to personal experience. I spend a decent amount of time on the friendlier Sig forum and you routinely see folks there having functional issues with brand new Sigs, requiring warranty service on day one. You also see some pretty bad fit and finish issues at times, including obvious milling marks. Granted, it's not the majority of Sigs and all manufacturers have issues, but it seems Sig has had more issues in recent years. The types of things that would have never made it out of the factory when I bought my W. German P228. I think it's fair to say when you spend that much on a P series, you should expect excellent QC. My P232 wasn't bad. It just wasn't good. It fed horribly, although it fed, and it didn't get better after putting 300 rounds of assorted ammo through it. The trigger was also abysmal. I knew there was a good chance that if I sent it in, they would put a box of ammo through it, say it worked fine, and send it back....so I didn't bother. Instead, I gave it to a gunsmith I know and trust and he turned it into the pistol it should have been when I bought it. Much happier now. And as stated above, my M11-A1 has been perfect. It eats everything I put in it without a single issue. No regrets there at all. |
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Just wondering. In the last 2 years I have bought 2 brand new P227s and a new P226. No problems at all.
I have read enough BS on the internet to realize that most of it is just that, BS. Couple of years back, on another board, guy was going on about how bad HIS Sigs were and it turned out he was a Glockaholic who had never even held a Sig so I take most of it with a grain of salt. I have about 10 Sigs, some new, some older. All have run perfectly, |
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Never thought I'd ever find anything better than my 226. It's amazing!
Well here it is. Just put on some rubber grips and have been carrying it OWB in a blade tech, but even better is the DeSantis pancake. She's a little chunky to carry IWB for my liking. I hate having to plan a wardrobe 2 inches bigger for what I'm going to carry that day. I'd much rater throw on a belt and the holster. But that's just me. YMMV |
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Do you have an actual M11 or an M11A1? Some people managed to get hold of actual M11s when they have an overrun, but most have M11A1s. Quoted:
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I love my M11. Arguably my favorite carry weapon. But it, you'll regret it if you don't. Do you have an actual M11 or an M11A1? Some people managed to get hold of actual M11s when they have an overrun, but most have M11A1s. No, the A1, for some reason I'm predisposed to leaving off the A1, much as I do when referring to a M4, I rarely if ever add A4 or what not. Either way, I'd pass on the overruns because of the A1's use of the 229-1 magazines, which I find to be much more abundant when I need magazines than the 228/229 variant. |
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No, the A1, for some reason I'm predisposed to leaving off the A1, much as I do when referring to a M4, I rarely if ever add A4 or what not. Either way, I'd pass on the overruns because of the A1's use of the 229-1 magazines, which I find to be much more abundant when I need magazines than the 228/229 variant. Quoted:
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I love my M11. Arguably my favorite carry weapon. But it, you'll regret it if you don't. Do you have an actual M11 or an M11A1? Some people managed to get hold of actual M11s when they have an overrun, but most have M11A1s. No, the A1, for some reason I'm predisposed to leaving off the A1, much as I do when referring to a M4, I rarely if ever add A4 or what not. Either way, I'd pass on the overruns because of the A1's use of the 229-1 magazines, which I find to be much more abundant when I need magazines than the 228/229 variant. The M11 is essentially a P228. The M11A1 is pretty much a P229. Civilian-owned M11s are pretty rare, so I am always specific when referring to mine Otherwise, you are like the LTC who answers his phone saying "Colonel Smith". 
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The M11 is essentially a P228. The M11A1 is pretty much a P229. Civilian-owned M11s are pretty rare, so I am always specific when referring to mine Otherwise, you are like the LTC who answers his phone saying "Colonel Smith". Quoted:
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I love my M11. Arguably my favorite carry weapon. But it, you'll regret it if you don't. Do you have an actual M11 or an M11A1? Some people managed to get hold of actual M11s when they have an overrun, but most have M11A1s. No, the A1, for some reason I'm predisposed to leaving off the A1, much as I do when referring to a M4, I rarely if ever add A4 or what not. Either way, I'd pass on the overruns because of the A1's use of the 229-1 magazines, which I find to be much more abundant when I need magazines than the 228/229 variant. The M11 is essentially a P228. The M11A1 is pretty much a P229. Civilian-owned M11s are pretty rare, so I am always specific when referring to mine Otherwise, you are like the LTC who answers his phone saying "Colonel Smith". Just gonna start answering with "Silver Oaks" 
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Otherwise, you are like the LTC who answers his phone saying "Colonel Smith". Actually, that is correct protocol. First and Second Lieutenants are both verbally called Lieutenant, and Lieutenant Colonels and Colonels are both verbally called Colonel. The full title is used in writing or on formal occasions (such as an award or citation) only. end hijack |
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Actually, that is correct protocol. First and Second Lieutenants are both verbally called Lieutenant, and Lieutenant Colonels and Colonels are both verbally called Colonel. The full title is used in writing or on formal occasions (such as an award or citation) only. end hijack Quoted:
Otherwise, you are like the LTC who answers his phone saying "Colonel Smith". Actually, that is correct protocol. First and Second Lieutenants are both verbally called Lieutenant, and Lieutenant Colonels and Colonels are both verbally called Colonel. The full title is used in writing or on formal occasions (such as an award or citation) only. end hijack hijack re-initiated Yeah, I get that. I enlisted over 30 years ago. I understand the protocol for addressing folks.
That wasn't my point. I was referring to how someone refers to themselves by rank, especially when their rank is not clear because they are out of uniform or on the telephone. Even so, it is usually fine to refer to yourself generically as "Specialist" or "Lieutenant" in the Army, because those aren't actual ranks. They are generic, but Colonel is a rank, and referring to yourself that way when you are an LTC is usually considered bad form. Thus, it's perfectly appropriate to refer to LTC Smith as "Colonel", but when he answers his own phone and announces himself, he should say "Lieutenant Colonel Smith" and not "Colonel Smith." Folks who did the latter were usually derided...and referred to as "Telephone Colonels." And that was my point about abbreviating M11-A1 to M11. You are actually changing the model if you abbreviate it that way...and potentially confusing people, as seen earlier in the thread. But whatever, not a big deal. Hell, you can call yours Charlene if you want.
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And that was my point about abbreviating M11-A1 to M11. You are actually changing the model if you abbreviate it that way...and potentially confusing people, as seen earlier in the thread. In this, we are in total agreement I don't see a problem abbreviating m11a1 as an m11. The only civilian owned p228s marked as anything other than p228 are marked as m11b. There were only a few hundred last I heard. |
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I don't see a problem abbreviating m11a1 as an m11. The only civilian owned p228s marked as anything other than p228 are marked as m11b. There were only a few hundred last I heard. Quoted:
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And that was my point about abbreviating M11-A1 to M11. You are actually changing the model if you abbreviate it that way...and potentially confusing people, as seen earlier in the thread. In this, we are in total agreement I don't see a problem abbreviating m11a1 as an m11. The only civilian owned p228s marked as anything other than p228 are marked as m11b. There were only a few hundred last I heard. Because M11 is a military issued handgun based on the P228, M11A1 is not a military issued handgun and is based on the P229. Two completely different guns. |
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Is there a difference in magazines, from earlier 228's and 229's? I seem to remember it having to do with the E2 grips, and there being reverse but not forward compatibility, or some such The P228 (and M11) take the old-style 13 round mags. The current M11-A1 takes the somewhat wider E2 grip 15 round mags. You can use one of the 13 round mags in an M11-A1. It will wiggle slightly, but will work. The reverse is not true. |
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I prefer the durability of the M11A1. I've shot the 228 and M11A1 side by side, box of shells each and liked my A1 over the 228. Recoil was softer on the A1.
Also the Nitrite SS slide is more durable. I would baby my p225 for this reason. Not that it is not a good slide, just not as strong. As far as magazines go, P228mags will work in a M11A1. Both pistols use the same grips, both use the same internal parts and the slides are interchangeable from frame to frame. I understand the argument as I own a few older S&W magnums and pre64 Winchesters. I'd like to have a real M11 to put in the safe, and I'll keep my M11A1 for shooting. |