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3/3/2010 6:48:37 PM EDT
I saw the other day a 4th Gen 22 with the barrel and slide in a gray finish.  When did this change and why?
3/3/2010 7:08:20 PM EDT
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When did this change and why?


A year +/- Faster/cheaper.



 
3/3/2010 7:56:22 PM EDT
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When did this change and why?

A year +/- Faster/cheaper.
 


really? I have never seen a factory barrel or slide in anything other than black. pics?

not that i don't believe you, just curious is all.
3/3/2010 8:11:04 PM EDT
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really? I have never seen a factory barrel or slide in anything other than black. pics?



The newer slides/barrels are manganese phosphate. Like an AR-15 barrel.



 
3/3/2010 8:14:24 PM EDT
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3/3/2010 8:22:31 PM EDT
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That new finish looks pretty sweet. Do you guys know if those barrels will fit in the older 3rd gen models?
3/4/2010 11:09:35 AM EDT
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really? I have never seen a factory barrel or slide in anything other than black. pics?

The newer slides/barrels are manganese phosphate. Like an AR-15 barrel.
 


Does that mean no more Tennifer Finish?
3/4/2010 11:15:48 AM EDT
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I don't own a Glock with the new finish, but my dad's G26 barrel has the new finish. It's holding up very well. The smilies don't seem to wear through to a bare steel color the way the old barrels do. You can see the smiles, but they're still black. Not sure if this makes a difference as I've never had an old style barrel get even an hint of rust on it.
3/4/2010 12:11:56 PM EDT
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really? I have never seen a factory barrel or slide in anything other than black. pics?

The newer slides/barrels are manganese phosphate. Like an AR-15 barrel.
 


Does that mean no more Tennifer Finish?





The phosphate finish has nothing to do with the Tennifer process.



3/4/2010 12:13:11 PM EDT
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really? I have never seen a factory barrel or slide in anything other than black. pics?









The newer slides/barrels are manganese phosphate. Like an AR-15 barrel.




 





Does that mean no more Tennifer Finish?





No, the Tenifer process isn't a 'finish' but rather a salt bath nitriding process that hardens the top layer of the metal itself.  Historically, firearm parts were black oxided, which is
        an oxidation process which is only a few millionths of an
        inch thick, does not offer much corrosion resistance, and
        doesn't alter the underlying steel. Basically its controlled rusting of
the iron or carbon steel its applied to. Salt bath nitriding is a
        case hardening process that leaves a fairly thick, corrosion
        resistant, hard surface. Salt
        bath nitride coatings are probably hundreds of times thicker
        than black oxide coatings and will still be there long after
        the black finish is worn off.
Manganese

phosphate is one of the various types of p
arkerizing which are phosphating processes.  I.e. the

treatment of iron or steel by immersion in a
dilute solution of phosphoric acid and other additives. In the resulting
chemical
reactions, the surface of the metal is chemically converted to an
integral protective
layer of insoluble zinc and iron or manganese and iron phosphate
crystals.
The color in its natural state is various shades of grey, but the
thicker variants (like manganese phosphate) can be dyed black or another
dark color. Parkerizing's porous nature allows it to soak up oil or some other
preservative, and this greatly improves it corrosion resistance which is why its popular on military weapons like the M1, M1 Carbine, M14, and M16.





 
 
 
3/4/2010 2:54:57 PM EDT
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When did this change and why?

A year +/- Faster/cheaper.
 


The Gen4 17 I handled still had the "old" finish (which I prefer).

None of the shops have gotten any of these "new finish" guns either.

Here's hoping the old finish stays, IMO, and the newer finish either becomes an option or goes the way of the scallop slide serrations on the early RTF guns.
3/4/2010 3:49:54 PM EDT
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My G26 has the grey barrel. I love the looks of it
3/4/2010 4:01:06 PM EDT
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Does that mean no more Tennifer Finish?



No. Tenifer is a metal treatment. The various finishes Glock uses/used are really just aesthetic/anti-reflective.





 
3/4/2010 4:05:24 PM EDT
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Do you guys know if those barrels will fit in the older 3rd gen models?
Yes. It is a standard Glock barrel.




ETA:You can also send your barrel/slide to Glock U.S.A. and they will refinish it for $50.





 
3/5/2010 6:11:47 AM EDT
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My G26 has the grey barrel. I love the looks of it


My new 17 does too.  I really like it.
3/5/2010 3:10:08 PM EDT
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My G26 has the grey barrel. I love the looks of it


My new 17 does too.  I really like it.


And my new Glock 19 has a gray barrel.
3/6/2010 1:50:40 PM EDT
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After shooting my G23 RTF2 with the grey barrel, I noticed a Grey putty like substance on the guide rod and the barrel.
I assume it is the finish on the barrel.....

I HATE IT!!!