Posted: 2/7/2010 5:40:28 AM EDT
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I recently picked up a G19 and took it to the range this weekend. I noticed after a couple mags down range, that the backstrap was chewing up my hand pretty good. After ~200 rounds my hand was raw. Its right where my palm was meeting the largest part of the 'hump' on the backstrap. Anyone else with large hands have this issue? My XDs never chew up my hand like that. I am trying to figure out if its just me, and the fact that I am not used to Glocks.
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Quoted: I recently picked up a G19 and took it to the range this weekend. I noticed after a couple mags down range, that the backstrap was chewing up my hand pretty good. After ~200 rounds my hand was raw. Its right where my palm was meeting the largest part of the 'hump' on the backstrap. Anyone else with large hands have this issue? My XDs never chew up my hand like that. I am trying to figure out if its just me, and the fact that I am not used to Glocks. What gen is it? Does it have the RTF or aftermarket stippling? I have a G19 and have put 150-200 rounds downrange a couple of times in on sitting and never had this problem. I could see that happening with some of the other finishes that are rougher. or you just have soft office worker hands  ETA: Sorry, didn't realize this isn't GD  |
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Quoted: Quoted: I recently picked up a G19 and took it to the range this weekend. I noticed after a couple mags down range, that the backstrap was chewing up my hand pretty good. After ~200 rounds my hand was raw. Its right where my palm was meeting the largest part of the 'hump' on the backstrap. Anyone else with large hands have this issue? My XDs never chew up my hand like that. I am trying to figure out if its just me, and the fact that I am not used to Glocks. What gen is it? Does it have the RTF or aftermarket stippling? I have a G19 and have put 150-200 rounds downrange a couple of times in on sitting and never had this problem. I could see that happening with some of the other finishes that are rougher. or you just have soft office worker hands ETA: Sorry, didn't realize this isn't GD Gen 3. Completely stock, other than night sights, and Vicker's extended mag release. Where it was rubbing is also in an odd spot. If you look at your palm, and picture a V being drawn from your pinky down to the heel of your palm, and back up your thumb. Its rubbing about an inch above where the point of the V would be. If that makes any sense.
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Quoted: Gen 3. Completely stock, other than night sights, and Vicker's extended mag release. Where it was rubbing is also in an odd spot. If you look at your palm, and picture a V being drawn from your pinky down to the heel of your palm, and back up your thumb. Its rubbing about an inch above where the point of the V would be. If that makes any sense. I'm looking at my Gen III G19, I assume that the area of the backstrap that is rubbing you is the checkering right below the vertical (fins? ribs?)... I really have no idea how you would get a sore spot like that if you were firmly gripping the pistol, but I'm interested in hearing any answers. |
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Holding the G19, I see that its actually the very end of the grip digging into my hand. Basically, the last inch or so of the grip is digging square into my hand. Its also not in the meaty part of the hand either. Which I am sure makes it more noticeable. Hell, I can still see the spot that was rubbed raw. I went to the range on Friday. ETA: |
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Ah, I misread your post and thought you were saying the raw spot was above the "V". When you are shooting, is the bottom of your hand in contact with the grip? I could see if you were squeezing hard with the upper fingers and not with your pinky finger and left a small gap between the grip and the bottom of your hand, the recoil driving the stippling into your palm could cause rawness over the course of a couple hundred rounds... Perhaps try putting a piece of moleskin or bandage tape over that part of the grip? ETA: Have you ever had this problem with other Glocks? It could just be the shape of your hand? I dunno... |
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Quoted: Ah, I misread your post and thought you were saying the raw spot was above the "V". When you are shooting, is the bottom of your hand in contact with the grip? I could see if you were squeezing hard with the upper fingers and not with your pinky finger and left a small gap between the grip and the bottom of your hand, the recoil driving the stippling into your palm could cause rawness over the course of a couple hundred rounds... Perhaps try putting a piece of moleskin or bandage tape over that part of the grip? ETA: Have you ever had this problem with other Glocks? It could just be the shape of your hand? I dunno... The only other Glock I have shot was at a VAHTF shoot. 1 mag from a 21SF (I think). I don't recall have any issues with that one, but it was only a single mag. I have never had this issue with other pistols. Shot some 1911s with really aggressive front/back straps and my XDs are all taped with sidewalk tape. ETA: Also, my XDSC is practically the same height as the G19, but it sits just a bit differently. Instead of being in that soft spot like the G19, its more along the meat below my thumb.
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| You are probably squeezing too hard and your skin is being squished into that little hole for the lanyand then being rubbed with every recoil. you can try putting tape over the hole and see if that works better, then try squeezing less with your pinky and ring finger. |
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Quoted: You are probably squeezing too hard and your skin is being squished into that little hole for the lanyand then being rubbed with every recoil. you can try putting tape over the hole and see if that works better, then try squeezing less with your pinky and ring finger. I didn't even think about that lanyard hole. Ill give that a shot the next time I go to the range. |
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You are probably squeezing too hard and your skin is being squished into that little hole for the lanyand then being rubbed with every recoil. you can try putting tape over the hole and see if that works better, then try squeezing less with your pinky and ring finger. I didn't even think about that lanyard hole. Ill give that a shot the next time I go to the range. Could have a rough spot. Take a tiny file in there and round it out a little bit, it will probably work just fine. Throw a peice of tape over that area if rounding out the hole doesn't work to see if its the checkering, but I doubt it, because frankly the checkering on gen 3's is quite tame. |
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You are probably squeezing too hard and your skin is being squished into that little hole for the lanyand then being rubbed with every recoil. you can try putting tape over the hole and see if that works better, then try squeezing less with your pinky and ring finger. I didn't even think about that lanyard hole. Ill give that a shot the next time I go to the range. Could have a rough spot. Take a tiny file in there and round it out a little bit, it will probably work just fine. Throw a peice of tape over that area if rounding out the hole doesn't work to see if its the checkering, but I doubt it, because frankly the checkering on gen 3's is quite tame. Look for the molding marks like said before I bet you have some plastic molding marks that is rubbing you. Take a file or a pocket knife and remove them. The 21 did not rub you because it is a bigger pistol and you have large enough hands that is fits you better. |
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Quoted: I guess it depends on exactly how you're gripping it, but I've never been fond if the mid sized frames. My hand just doesn't fit it as well. You might try shooting 17... (I'd guess the 19 isn't a CCW?) Given the praise of the G19 on this site, I actually picked up one to see if it could be a new carry piece. I like that its lighter and slimmer than my XDSC. Still need more range time to make any determination beyond that. |
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If you grip it and it rubs, change your grip. For me, I had the same issue, but I just adjusted my grip. To me it looks like you are getting too much fingers on the gun. Try putting your finger tips on the front parts of the grip, not on the side. Also, with the gun in your hand and pointing in a safe direction, make sure that when you grip it, your wrist is perfectly straight and lined up with the slide of the gun. From what it looks like, your grip puts the gun slightly out of line with your wrist, which digs the grip into your hand. Here are some pics to show you:
The first picture you can see my wrist is lined up with the slide perfectly. This is how you want it. 
This next picture, I have it gripped such that it will dig into my hand like you are experiencing. Notice my wrist is not lined up with the slide, but slightly to the right. Also, you can see a bit of of the grip, which again shows my grip is not lined up properly. 
You can make one straight line in the first pic going up my forearm and into the slide. In the second pic, if you were to draw a line up my forearm, it would be to the right on the slide. I suspect this is your issue, which is an issue for many, the grip of the glock that is. It takes some getting used to, but if you train with it consistently, it will not become a problem. |
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Quoted: Quoted: I guess it depends on exactly how you're gripping it, but I've never been fond if the mid sized frames. My hand just doesn't fit it as well. You might try shooting 17... (I'd guess the 19 isn't a CCW?) Given the praise of the G19 on this site, I actually picked up one to see if it could be a new carry piece. I like that its lighter and slimmer than my XDSC. Still need more range time to make any determination beyond that. I carry my G19 daily  As for changing your grip, if you are shooting well how you are gripping it now, I would try and modify the gun to not rub your hand before changing from a natural grip. If you are naturally aiming where you want to hip, and making good shots, a couple of pieces of tape or some time with a file is a much better idea than having to remember an unnatural (to you) grip. Especially for a defensive firearm. |
FWIW, here's how I grip my G19:
And a closeup of where the corner of the butt meets my hand: 
For me, the corner of the butt meets my hand in the meaty part. My guess is that because your hand is a little on the larger side, the "V" is forced further down and meets the corner of the butt instead of the meaty part. As others have suggested, perhaps place some tape or moleskin there for when you hit the range –– if it's your daily carry, it probably won't matter a whole lot if your hand is a little raw in a true SD situation. 
I have a little ol' Browning BDA-380 that tears up the web of my hand (between my thumb and index finger) something fierce when I shoot it at the range, even though the recoil feels practically non-existent. I've just taken to wearing a shooting glove when I fire that puppy. |
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Google some pictures of Dave Sevigny and his grip. also check out the guys from Magpul Dynamics. Those are two opposit ends of the spectrum (competition and combat shooting) that use virtually the same technique. You should be sqeezing more with your support hand because all your firing hand really needs to do is establish a foundation and work the trigger. I would say about 70% grip with support....30% Firing. Standing in more of a "short stop" stance will help with proper arm placement and extension. You need the slight bend in your elbows but tension in your muscles so your arms will act as shock absorbers. When the pistol recoils with proper grip, the muzzle shouldn't flip up as much but rather recoil straight back.
My .02 Stay safe |