Posted: 1/16/2010 5:16:31 AM EDT
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How long will it be before an aftermarket company makes a straight/1911 style backstrap to make the new Glocks even smaller?
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Actually I was thinking about that and I think it's probably possible to make a straight back strap that will work with the gen4 frames but you would have to make the grip really fat. I'm not going to be able to describe this very well but basically the new grip panel would have to have all the "meat" up by where the web of your hand sits into the rear strap and then taper out towards the bottom. Basically making an inverse copy of the Glock back strap. It should work but the finally result would be a grip probably as big as the original G20\21 frame if not bigger which is not something I would be interested in.
The other option might be to flatten the palm swell the way the currently do with the Gen 3 and earlier frames (Heat and roll) and then make a custom strap the covers any ugliness caused by the grip mod? That would probably work too and keep the grip size down but may not be very cost effective and not legal for GSSF comps for those that care about that. |
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Robar actually makes an alloy and SS glock frame with removable backstraps (has been around for a couple years) and they make a straight 1911 style strap for their frames. Robar doesn't make those frames. CCF Raceframes |
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I for one am glad that GLOCK didn't go full retard like everyone else with a removable backstrap. Yes this, at least. I hate the removable backstraps. I picked up a G22 Gen4 this weekend it was small in my hand without any straps but I like the texture I am going to get one when they come out with it in the G21 or G32. |
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Robar actually makes an alloy and SS glock frame with removable backstraps (has been around for a couple years) and they make a straight 1911 style strap for their frames. Robar doesn't make those frames. CCF Raceframes Indeed, Robar is now using those frames to build complete pistols. |
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I for one am glad that GLOCK didn't go full retard like everyone else with a removable backstrap. Yes this, at least. +1 Adjustable grips are a fad. Unless you're taller than 5 ft 10 and have large hands. I'm 6'6 and the adjustable grip on my H&K P2000 that I have to carry for duty is a life saver. If I had to use the standard grip that comes with the gun, I'd be screwed. |
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Held one today... I have large hands, to the point that the standard G21 and the Beretta M9 fit me very well. I was concerned that the "standard" small grip would be too small since I do not want the add-on grips at all.
Unless you have carney worker style small hands, I think you will be ok. It barely feels smaller and actually feels very good in my hand. I really like the new mag catch. And I looked closely at the new recoil spring, I like it. I am going to have to save my pennies and get a G22 soon. Got one!!!!! |
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Layerable vs replaceable: Which gives you more options? Replaceable of course. Layerable is just lame. Glock lazy mod. Why? If a gun has small medium and large, who cares if small is "fixed"? Maybe I'm just not seeing the difference, could be me though. |
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Layerable vs replaceable: Which gives you more options? Replaceable of course. Layerable is just lame. Glock lazy mod. Why? If a gun has small medium and large, who cares if small is "fixed"? Maybe I'm just not seeing the difference, could be me though. It severely limits the options for aftermarket solutions. Glock made the arrogant assumption that the grip was "perfection" and their design doesn't allow significant change by changing out the backstrap. |
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Think beyond just grip size to something like a Crimson Trace replacement backstrap that doesn't change the shape of the grip. Or a swap-on, swap-off backstrap that included a magazine disconnect safety mechanism for states that require that for sale. Just a couple off the top of my head.
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Layerable vs replaceable: Which gives you more options? Replaceable of course. Layerable is just lame. Glock lazy mod. Why? If a gun has small medium and large, who cares if small is "fixed"? Maybe I'm just not seeing the difference, could be me though. |
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Think beyond just grip size to something like a Crimson Trace replacement backstrap that doesn't change the shape of the grip. Or a swap-on, swap-off backstrap that included a magazine disconnect safety mechanism for states that require that for sale. Just a couple off the top of my head. Quoted:
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Layerable vs replaceable: Which gives you more options? Replaceable of course. Layerable is just lame. Glock lazy mod. Why? If a gun has small medium and large, who cares if small is "fixed"? Maybe I'm just not seeing the difference, could be me though. Or for someone like me who doesn't want a palm swell |
| As a side note - It was my understanding that with no add on strap, the Gen 4 frame was supposed to be smaller then the Gen 3 and that the "medium" strap was supposed to be basically the same as a gen3? If that is correct then why does a Gen4 with no add on strap feel exactly like a Gen3 size wise in my hands (or is that just me)? |
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Quoted: Quoted: +1 Adjustable grips are a fad. You are such a silly. Adjustable grips allow a wide range of hand sizes/shapes to comfortably fit the grip, while sacrificing almost nothing in the reliability department. Adjustable grips are this decades squared trigger guard. |
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+1 Adjustable grips are a fad. You are such a silly. Adjustable grips allow a wide range of hand sizes/shapes to comfortably fit the grip, while sacrificing almost nothing in the reliability department. Adjustable grips are this decades squared trigger guard. Quick someone call Gaston!!! We found the one other human on the planet with similar shaped hands!!! |
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As a side note - It was my understanding that with no add on strap, the Gen 4 frame was supposed to be smaller then the Gen 3 and that the "medium" strap was supposed to be basically the same as a gen3? If that is correct then why does a Gen4 with no add on strap feel exactly like a Gen3 size wise in my hands (or is that just me)? It is completely just you. The hump is less pronounced with the gen 4 naked. All you gotta do is hold them up to eachother and you can see it, then put on the "medium" backstrap, and it feels more consistent with the gen 3 frame, because that technically is its equivalent. Either way, my new favorite backstrap is the large. It basically gives the same angle of the gen 4 naked, but it fills in some more area by the webbing up my hand. It pushes my right hand back a little bit, and gives my left hand more area to make contact with grip, making the gun actually feel more secure in my hands. I thought I was going to like the gen 4 naked, but as it happens, for me its just too small. I will have to get it out and shoot it before I am sure, but as of right now, I prefer the gen 4 in this order, Large, Medium, small/naked |