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1/15/2010 10:07:26 PM EDT
Why does my G23 have a serrated trigger and the G22 does not?
1/15/2010 10:19:05 PM EDT
[#1]



Quoted:


Why does my G23 have a serrated trigger and the G22 does not?


To get the Gun Control Act of 1968 handgun import 75 points needed to be imported. The serrated trigger counts as a "target" trigger.





The BATFE point system:



To qualify for import, a pistol must score a total of 75 points.

CHARACTERISTICS POINTS



Length: for each 1/4" over 6" 1



Forged steel frame 15



Forged HTS alloy frame 20



Unloaded weight with magazine (per oz) 1



.22 short and .25 auto 0



.22 LR and 7.65mm to .380 auto 3



9mm parabellum and over 10



Locked breech mechanism 5



Loaded chamber indicator 5



Grip Safety 3



Magazine safety 5

Firing pin block or lock 10



External hammer 2



Double action 10



Drift adjustable target sight 10



Target grips 5



Target trigger 2
Revolver Qualifying score is 45 points.



Prerequisites



1. Must pass safety test.

2. Must have overall frame (with conventional grips) length (not diagonal)

of 4 1/2" minimum.

3. Must have a barrel length of at least 3"



Individual Characteristics



Barrel Length (Muzzle to Cylinder Face)

Less than 4" 0

For each 1/4" over 4" 1/2





Frame Construction

Investment Cast or Forged Steel 15

Investment Cast or Forged HTS Alloy 20



Weapon Weight (Unloaded)

Per ounce 1



Caliber

.22 short to .25 acp 0

.22 LR and .30 to .38 S&W 3

.38 Special 4

.357 mag and over 5



Miscellaneous Equipment

Adjustable Target Sights 5

(drift or click)



Target Grips 5

Target Hammer and Target Trigger 5



Safety Test



A Double Action Revolver must have a safety feature which automatically

(or in a Single Action Revolver by manual operation) causes the hammer to

retract to a point where the firing pin does not rest upon the primer of

the cartridge. The safety device must withstand the impact of a weight

equal to the weight of the revolver dropping from a distance of 36" in a

line parallel to the barrel upon the rear of the hammer spur, a total of

5 times.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIzjFcB6t7s



 
1/15/2010 11:20:26 PM EDT
[#2]
Yep, that's the ONLY reason.  The BATFE's idiotic import "points" system.
1/16/2010 3:01:02 AM EDT
[#3]
Very easy to change your serrated trigger to a smooth one if you want...
1/16/2010 3:04:20 AM EDT
[#4]

It's pretty simple to change out the serrated trigger for the proper smooth, I've got a bag full of those stupid serrated triggers that I've changed out in my parts box...

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=535394

1/16/2010 5:11:54 AM EDT
[#5]
Whats the big deal with the serrated? One of my Glocks has it and I couldn't even tell you which one, thats how much I don't even think about it.
1/16/2010 7:36:41 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Whats the big deal with the serrated? One of my Glocks has it and I couldn't even tell you which one, thats how much I don't even think about it.


Put a couple hundred rounds through each in a day and I guarentee you will know which one.  The serrated will chew up your trigger finger after a while.   You won't notice 20-50 rounds, but much more and you will.  I changed all mine out the last time OMB had a sale with free shipping.  Cost me less than $14 to do each pistol.

edited cause I can't speall
1/16/2010 6:26:41 PM EDT
[#7]
I've never had any problems with the serrated trigger "chewing up" my fingers or anything like that.  Even going through 500 rnds at a time.

I don't really notice that much difference between them, not enough to change mine on the compact guns.
1/16/2010 7:34:39 PM EDT
[#8]
I can't stand the serrated triggers.  They aren't anything close to the fine serrations on a 1911 or a MKII.  The serration is too deep and irritating.  I change mine out for smooth triggers and then take a round file to the flat safety to match the contour of the trigger.  I finish off with 400-1000-2000 sanding and then you have a great feeling trigger.
1/17/2010 3:49:57 AM EDT
[#9]
I'm guessing the trigger for the 22 will work for the 23?  I never liked the "target" trigger.
1/17/2010 4:55:18 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Why does my G23 have a serrated trigger and the G22 does not?

To get the Gun Control Act of 1968 handgun import 75 points needed to be imported. The serrated trigger counts as a "target" trigger.


The BATFE point system:

To qualify for import, a pistol must score a total of 75 points.
CHARACTERISTICS POINTS

Length: for each 1/4" over 6" 1

Forged steel frame 15

Forged HTS alloy frame 20

Unloaded weight with magazine (per oz) 1

.22 short and .25 auto 0

.22 LR and 7.65mm to .380 auto 3

9mm parabellum and over 10

Locked breech mechanism 5

Loaded chamber indicator 5

Grip Safety 3

Magazine safety 5
Firing pin block or lock 10

External hammer 2

Double action 10

Drift adjustable target sight 10

Target grips 5

Target trigger 2




Revolver Qualifying score is 45 points.

Prerequisites

1. Must pass safety test.
2. Must have overall frame (with conventional grips) length (not diagonal)
of 4 1/2" minimum.
3. Must have a barrel length of at least 3"

Individual Characteristics

Barrel Length (Muzzle to Cylinder Face)
Less than 4" 0
For each 1/4" over 4" 1/2


Frame Construction
Investment Cast or Forged Steel 15
Investment Cast or Forged HTS Alloy 20

Weapon Weight (Unloaded)
Per ounce 1

Caliber
.22 short to .25 acp 0
.22 LR and .30 to .38 S&W 3
.38 Special 4
.357 mag and over 5

Miscellaneous Equipment
Adjustable Target Sights 5
(drift or click)

Target Grips 5
Target Hammer and Target Trigger 5

Safety Test

A Double Action Revolver must have a safety feature which automatically
(or in a Single Action Revolver by manual operation) causes the hammer to
retract to a point where the firing pin does not rest upon the primer of
the cartridge. The safety device must withstand the impact of a weight
equal to the weight of the revolver dropping from a distance of 36" in a
line parallel to the barrel upon the rear of the hammer spur, a total of
5 times.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIzjFcB6t7s
 


Why did Glock not drop the target trigger ,when they added the LCI?

1/17/2010 7:38:35 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
I'm guessing the trigger for the 22 will work for the 23?  I never liked the "target" trigger.

Yep

1/17/2010 9:10:51 AM EDT
[#12]
I myslef change the triggers.  The serrations annoy the hell out of me and start to blister my finger when I shoot a lot out of my subcompact Glocks.
1/17/2010 10:30:20 AM EDT
[#13]
the serrated hurt especially when its really cold out
1/17/2010 11:13:29 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Whats the big deal with the serrated? One of my Glocks has it and I couldn't even tell you which one, thats how much I don't even think about it.


Put a couple hundred rounds through each in a day and I guarentee you will know which one.  The serrated will chew up your trigger finger after a while.   You won't notice 20-50 rounds, but much more and you will.  I changed all mine out the last time OMB had a sale with free shipping.  Cost me less than $14 to do each pistol.

edited cause I can't speall


I have put close to a thousand rounds through my Glocks in a day and it was still a non issue for me.
1/17/2010 12:01:47 PM EDT
[#15]
I have to smooth the face of the trigger safety with 600 grit,to remove the flashing,that bothers me more than the serrated trigger!
But I still change all of my triggers to the smooth version.
1/17/2010 3:50:19 PM EDT
[#16]
I pay it no never mind.  Either is fine and I don't notice which is which when I shoot.  Guess I never really thought about it much until a few years ago a guy mentioned it.