Posted: 5/2/2009 11:06:48 PM EDT
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I'm sure that this has been brought up 100 times but I'm new to the Glock forum and have little luck with searches. What is the truth to the rumors of a model 23 being defective in that it has a history of malfuction in the breech closing completely after a round is ejected, therefore causing possible injury to the shooter. |
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The 23 doesn't have a fully supported chamber. What that means is that when the glock is in battery there is a small portion of the case wall not in the chamber. That can be a problem with reloads because the case weakens after multiple loadings. That weakness can cause the case to rupture and cause a "kaboom" as many call it. That being said, I have shot thousands of reloads through my 23 without a single malfunction. The 23 is a great pistol and I would not have any reserve in recommending one.
If i remember correctly .40's used to have a thinner case wall than they do now a days but I could be wrong about that. |
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Thank you, that is the kind of answer from an informed person that I've been looking for.
I've been eyeing a mod. 23 for some time now. It would be my first Glock but not my first .40, which I consider the 'perfect' round for its size and velocity. My first love will always be my .45 but don't we all need more than one? |
| If I were limited to one handgun by law or economics it would be my Glock 23. Between my wife and I we own 2 and they have both been 100% reliable. They are our primary carry guns and mine has about 2500 rounds downrange and hers a little over half that. Don't believe the negative stuff,they are GREAT guns. TJR |
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Quoted: The 23 doesn't have a fully supported chamber. What that means is that when the glock is in battery there is a small portion of the case wall not in the chamber. That can be a problem with reloads because the case weakens after multiple loadings. That weakness can cause the case to rupture and cause a "kaboom" as many call it. That being said, I have shot thousands of reloads through my 23 without a single malfunction. The 23 is a great pistol and I would not have any reserve in recommending one. If i remember correctly .40's used to have a thinner case wall than they do now a days but I could be wrong about that. All Browning design based automatics have some degree of less chamber support in the ramp area, however, the recent (5-6 years) Glock 40s have more support than the earlier barreled ones. You see more Glock failures because there are more Glocks in service. Some other brands have even less chamber support than the old Glock barrel design. The internet hype about 40s failure rates being high is just hysteria. For instance, I've got 27,000+ of my reloads through my 2003 G22 without a single issue. My carry G23 also has an adequately supported chamber and I think that the G23 is the finest combination of small size, light weight, capacity, concealability, reliability, controllability, and lethality Glock makes. SGocka doesn't remember correctly. The brass cases for 40s remains unchanged, its the chamber support that's changed. |
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SGocka doesn't remember correctly. The brass cases for 40s remains unchanged, its the chamber support that's changed. I think he might be talking way back when the .40 first came out. IIRC, they beefed up the case wall thickness towards the base and also lowered the SAAMI spec....???? |
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SGocka doesn't remember correctly. The brass cases for 40s remains unchanged, its the chamber support that's changed. I think he might be talking way back when the .40 first came out. IIRC, they beefed up the case wall thickness towards the base and also lowered the SAAMI spec....???? Yeah that's what I was talking about. |
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I've put thousands of round through my 23 and love it. Just spent two days training this weekend in a pistol class and put another thousand through without a single hiccup. No cleaning, no maintenance, in dusty and dirty conditions. I had to dissasemble my mags and clean them from all the sand in them. |