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4/14/2009 4:32:30 AM EDT
Gang...I tried researching this on Google and didn't find any answers.

Question:

I own a G23 (stock - no mods) when I fire the last shot from a magazine the trigger kicks or something and I'm left with a numb (pins and needles) feeling in my trigger finger.  I have heard other shooters tell me this is common in Glocks.  Guys there has to be a fix for this it is honestly the most annoying qwirk I have seen on a pistol.....why do they let them leave the factory like this?

Secondly.....

Assuming there is a fix and I'm gonna have the gun torn apart what are some tried and tested mods that you can recommend....this gun will be used for target practice and as a concealed carry gun.

Westy
4/14/2009 4:50:02 AM EDT
[#1]
It is common. The good news is it doesn't happen all of the time. The .40 is a snappy round in the Glock pistol and the frame being so light doesn't dampen the vibration very well and it gets transmitted right down the trigger. I've noticed it more on colder days, and sometimes it's nonexistant. Different ammo may play a part as well.

One thing you could do which isn't a solution to the problem but *may* help is the addition of a smooth faced (G17/22) trigger.  I do this on all my compact pistols and if you dont want to buy the trigger assy you can carefully sand the face of your trigger soooth. Be careful not to sand down the center piece which is the trigger safety.

You could also wear a bandaid on your trigger finger as some do although it would be a less manly approach.

Good Luck.
4/14/2009 5:14:13 AM EDT
[#2]
If this is a common problem without a "mechanical" fix I may end up being a very brief Glock owner.  I'm not going to pick and choose ammo.....it was just plain ol target ammo (nothing hot ie: +P)...and nope can't see myself busting out bandaids when its time to go shooting.

I'd love to hear more feedback / ideas before I throw in the towel and trade this G23 in.

Yes it is that annoying.....a definite dealbreaker.

Westy
4/14/2009 5:43:16 AM EDT
[#3]
There are other things / mechanical fixes you could do to eliminate the problem but this would require replacing parts with non stock / factory Glock parts which I wouldn't suggest.

I would shoot it more before you throw in the towel. As I said, a very small percentage of the time it's noticeble, most of the time it isn't.
4/14/2009 6:06:19 AM EDT
[#4]
Buy a pair of Mechanix Gloves at Home Dept for $12.

4/14/2009 10:19:44 AM EDT
[#5]
The same thing happened to me. I was shooting on a cold day and it was very noticable. Came home, posted here and was told it had something to do with the trigger reset, B@%S*&^ as far as I'm concerned. FWIW I don't notice it when it's not cold.

ETA I did buy a smooth trigger, maybe that helped
4/14/2009 10:24:11 AM EDT
[#6]
Send that piece of junk to me.


I'll dispose of it for you.





All Glocks are junk.


I'll even pay a salvage price + shipping.



ETA


4/14/2009 10:55:31 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Send that piece of junk to me.
I'll dispose of it for you.

All Glocks are junk.
I'll even pay a salvage price + shipping.

ETA


Seconds, seriously though, haven't noticed it before and my wife hasn't complained about it. I'll look for it next time I shoot. It's just letting you know it's empty.
4/14/2009 12:06:40 PM EDT
[#8]
Well, I've put many thousands of rounds through my own G23 and have never noticed this at all.

The only action that's happening back there is the Connector is being "cammed over" by the slide, allowing the rearmost extension of the Trigger Bar to "pop back up"  into position.  Only difference when firing the las round is the slide stays back, and the Trigger Bar is no longer re-engaging the lug on the Firing Pin.

Not really sure why yours would be "stinging" your finger...................I'm assuming you are following through, that is, holding the trigger to the rear...............or are you letting it go, back to what would be the reset point?

Strange indeed.
4/14/2009 12:15:03 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Well, I've put many thousands of rounds through my own G23 and have never noticed this at all.

The only action that's happening back there is the Connector is being "cammed over" by the slide, allowing the rearmost extension of the Trigger Bar to "pop back up"  into position.  Only difference when firing the las round is the slide stays back, and the Trigger Bar is no longer re-engaging the lug on the Firing Pin.

Not really sure why yours would be "stinging" your finger...................I'm assuming you are following through, that is, holding the trigger to the rear...............or are you letting it go, back to what would be the reset point?

Strange indeed.


You've never experienced the stingy Glock .40 finger?...... ever?  You brute you.
4/14/2009 12:16:57 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Well, I've put many thousands of rounds through my own G23 and have never noticed this at all.

The only action that's happening back there is the Connector is being "cammed over" by the slide, allowing the rearmost extension of the Trigger Bar to "pop back up"  into position.  Only difference when firing the las round is the slide stays back, and the Trigger Bar is no longer re-engaging the lug on the Firing Pin.

Not really sure why yours would be "stinging" your finger...................I'm assuming you are following through, that is, holding the trigger to the rear...............or are you letting it go, back to what would be the reset point?

Strange indeed.


You've never experienced the stingy Glock .40 finger?...... ever?  You brute you.


HA!  No, no, truthfully, no "brute" here, but I've never noticed any kind of "trigger slap" with my own G23.  Sorry.

4/14/2009 12:37:21 PM EDT
[#11]
I only notice it when my hands are cold.
4/14/2009 1:14:50 PM EDT
[#12]
The simplest was to eliminate the sting is to get a G17 triggerbar assy.  It has a smooth trigger face so it doesn't 'bite' your finger tip.  Its a common complaint of the compact Glocks and many people change out the trigger to the smooth one.  The G17's trigger bar is the direct replacement for all of the std size Glock frames (G17, 17L, 22, 24, 31, 34, and 35) and it also fits the compact size Glocks (G19, 23, and 32).  It takes on the order of 5 minutes to change out.



BTW, the compact Glocks come with the serrated (target trigger) to gain enough points to be imported.
4/14/2009 2:50:31 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
The simplest was to eliminate the sting is to get a G17 triggerbar assy.  It has a smooth trigger face so it doesn't 'bite' your finger tip.  Its a common complaint of the compact Glocks and many people change out the trigger to the smooth one.  The G17's trigger bar is the direct replacement for all of the std size Glock frames (G17, 17L, 22, 24, 31, 34, and 35) and it also fits the compact size Glocks (G19, 23, and 32).  It takes on the order of 5 minutes to change out.

BTW, the compact Glocks come with the serrated (target trigger) to gain enough points to be imported.


That's what I did, though I never did notice any trigger sting.  I simply prefer smooth triggers.  Now if they would just make one for my G36.........
4/14/2009 4:30:28 PM EDT
[#14]
I've never noticed this before.  Darn, I bet it will start bothering me now.  I have noticed after long range sessions, 500 rounds and up, that the Glock trigger safety rubs my finger a little raw.  I guess I need to build up some callouses on my shooting finger.
4/14/2009 6:43:40 PM EDT
[#15]
Appreciate all the input gang....love this forum.  To be honest the range was quite cold when i was experiencing this issue.  I have a fe basic mods on order from the glock store and will test the G23 fully now that nice weather is here.

thanks again everyone.

Westy