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3/1/2009 11:12:53 PM EDT
LaserMax Glock 21

I'm thinking of buying one of these and was wondering if anyone here has used it before.  My biggest questions are:
1.  What's the battery life like and how available are the LMS-3x393 batteries?  Would I have to order them?
2.  What's the accuracy like?  I noticed it said +/- 2" POA... But I was just wondering what you guys thought of it.

Thanks guys
3/1/2009 11:17:09 PM EDT
[#1]
More info

Just found this website which answered the battery question.  But I'd still like some personal input from you guys who've tried it.  Thanks
3/2/2009 4:08:47 AM EDT
[#2]
I have one that I move between my G20 and G21.  Have had it for almost two years, still the original batteries.  It works just as advertised.  I like it, though I don't use it much.



3/2/2009 5:57:30 AM EDT
[#3]
I love the idea of the Lasermax, but I've heard a bunch poo poo it as well, so I've always been on the fence about it.
3/2/2009 10:53:50 PM EDT
[#4]
I use the Lasermax in all of my Glocks, including the G21. I have much experience with lasers, I would deem the Lasermax to be the best solution for the Glock platform.

The battery size is commonly availible as a hearing aid/watch/utility battery. You can find them at Walmart...However, Lasermax installs thier batteries in "packs" which are 3 batteries sealed in plastic. This is supposed to increase durability and battery life. These battery packs are readily avialible on a number of websites, or you could probably very easily make your own. In my highest use guns, the batteries get replaced every year +/-. I have never had dead batteries, but then I wouldn't allow that to happen...Its not like chaning batteries in Lasergrips, but its hardly the fiasco some people make it out to be.

In the Lasermax line, only the 1911 guide rod is user adjustible for zero. All others are stuck with a factory zero, which is supposed to be within a 2 inch range. I haven't seen any that were outside of this, but some of my guiderods would have the laser at 2 or 10 o'clock, instead of high noon. I ended up sending these back for readjustment, and they came back much better than they were. The guiderods in my G17, G19 and G26 have the laser nearly dead on with the FS. You need to also consider that the bullet need not strike the pulsing dot for the laser to be effective. Handgun lasers are designed for rapid aqusition, not precision accuracy...though some could feasibly be used for both. Since most shootings occur at 7 yards or under, 2 inches of variance isn't going to make one iota of difference, thus its not something to fuss over.

Some people will never accept the Lasermax, simply because it replaces factory internal components. No matter how many torture tests or military/LE contracts*and there are a ton*, some people will never tolerate them. The Lasermax is in use all over the globe and has been for years now, its durability is long since been proven. In the Glock, the single most important feature of the guide rod is to aid in reassembly, Should you melt the polymer rod, your gun will continue to cycle...The Lasermax unit is a huge improvement over the factory polymer unit, because of its alloy construction. Many of the "horror stories" out there are propaganda circulated by people who have never used this unit. There is no "risk" of reduced reliability when using the Lasermax guiderod, especially compared to the factory polymer unit.

The Lasermax isn't perfect though...The activation switch is eiether "on" or "off". There is no momentary...Also, its location makes it succeptible to carbon fouling which will dim and eventually obscure the laser completely. Wipe it off every 50 rounds and you are good to go...Since most people don't CCW 50 rounds anyways, its really a non issue. I had a lense seal fail on an older G23 guide rod that had suffered through thousands of rounds of abuse. The laser turned into a blob, instead of a precise pulsating dot. They fixed/upgraded the part and the switch for free. I had it back in about a week...You also need to be careful about getting lubrication on the lense as it too can obscure the laser. The standard switch also isn't compatible with many SERPA holsters, though you can Dremel or aquire a modified switch from Lasermax. These are a small price to pay considering the issues associated with the CTC Glock 'grips, which raise the bore axis, don't work as reliable as thier other products and also necessitate learning a new grip so as not to interefere with the beam.

For all other guns, I use Lasergrips exclusively. Until CTC comes out with thier new laser*based on thier first laser* for compact Glocks and I get a chance to demo one, I will be using Lasermax Glock guiderods for the forseeable future.

If you want a laser for your Glock, the Lasermax is the best choice....
3/3/2009 5:24:25 AM EDT
[#5]
THanks for the reply Steve!!  Nice post.