Posted: 1/7/2009 2:35:14 PM EDT
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I had made a decision recently that the next pistol I buy should have a threaded barrel available so I can put a suppressor on it when I get the chance (when I move out of CA). Does such barrel exist for the Glock 20, which will likely be my next pistol purchase since I need a good woods gun? Yeah yeah, I know, 9mm is better for suppression, but 10mm fits my actual needs better as I already have a good 2 legged problem removal pistol and need something for 4 legged problems. Suppressing is for making range time more enjoyable and comfortable for my wife to be around without minding so much. I'd probably put a .45 can on it, correct?
I know G20's aren't the most common pistol out there for such task, but I figure Glocks are common enough it'd be less trouble than many I could think of. Anyone know? |
| A suppressor on a supersonic weapon is somewhat self defeating. The sonic boom is not suppressed. That said, adding one to a weapon who's sole advantage over a 40sw is it's ability to launch heavier bullets at over the speed of sound (1,100fps) is not necessarily the right approach. YMMV |
| I know the supersonic crack is still there, but that does not amount to as much compared to the huge *BLAM!* that comes from large amounts of powder being discharged at high pressure. The sonic crack does not have a concussive effect. I'm not going for sneaky here, I'm going for more tolerable to somewhat shy companions and less flinch development by myself. Does that make more sense? |
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A suppressor on a supersonic weapon is somewhat self defeating. The sonic boom is not suppressed. That said, adding one to a weapon who's sole advantage over a 40sw is it's ability to launch heavier bullets at over the speed of sound (1,100fps) is not necessarily the right approach. YMMV Have you fired supersonic loads out of suppressed weapons? I have fired quite a few, both semi and full auto, and it makes a huge difference with the can on. Suppressed m4's will allow you to fire while in a group of people without your ears ringing. The round cracking past your head is actually louder than the shot. If you are expecting Hollywood quiet get a decent 22lr can, but don't say that suppressors on weapons firing supersonic rounds is a waste, because it most certainly is not. The supersonic crack is around 135dB, which is below the sound level of the shot. |
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To answer your question, yes quite a lot. However, I never said, "...that suppressors on weapons firing supersonic rounds is a waste..." as you assert. I said that, "A suppressor on a supersonic weapon is somewhat self defeating." Those two statements are nothing close to meaning the same thing so don't try to make out I said something I didn't and then scold me for saying it.
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A suppressor on a supersonic weapon is somewhat self defeating. The sonic boom is not suppressed. That said, adding one to a weapon who's sole advantage over a 40sw is it's ability to launch heavier bullets at over the speed of sound (1,100fps) is not necessarily the right approach. YMMV Have you fired supersonic loads out of suppressed weapons? I have fired quite a few, both semi and full auto, and it makes a huge difference with the can on. Suppressed m4's will allow you to fire while in a group of people without your ears ringing. The round cracking past your head is actually louder than the shot. If you are expecting Hollywood quiet get a decent 22lr can, but don't say that suppressors on weapons firing supersonic rounds is a waste, because it most certainly is not. The supersonic crack is around 135dB, which is below the sound level of the shot. To continue, notwithstanding your correct assertion as to the muting of the muzzle blast when using a suppressor, you missed my point. A suppressed M4 or other long gun can be effective because the 'target' may be some distance away measured in yards or even tens of yards. Suppressing the muzzle report can be effective in masking the exact location of the shooter's position. In addition, in indoor employments, it can help reduce the noise level. A pistol's effective range is measured in ft (not many more that one can count on their fingers and toes) and so an effective suppressor could only help to mask the weapon's location if the round traveling downrange were also quieter. In addition, in indoor employments, a suppressor dramatically increases the pistol's OAL, thereby reducing some of its advantages over a longer barreled weapon. A suppressor on a pistol of subgun is employed for different reasons than one on a supersonic rifle. There are different expectations from each. I'll state it again. Putting a suppressor on a pistol that may be one of the loudest pistols made today is somewhat self defeating. Maybe that's why they don't make suppressors for M1 Abrams tanks. 
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Yes, I am not sure what happened in the quote that I made. I don't know why it didn't have your name on their, as I didn't type or change anything that you wrote.
I do agree with you on the pistol issue to a point, however, the effective range of the 10mm round it quite a bit further than distances measured in feet. While still fairly loud indoors, I have fired a FA 10mm mp5 and the can makes a big difference. Obviously the closer you are to the bullet impact the louder it will be. I guess it depends on the expectations of the person, but I think it is worthwhile to suppress almost all guns. I will take the added length and weight of a can on a pistol or subgun fired indoors to the ringing in my ears any day. And as a side note, someone in Europe did suppress a tank round. I've seen the videos of it.
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