Posted: 11/27/2008 6:03:22 PM EDT
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I just bought a new 36 and have a question. When gripping the gun and hitting the mag release the mags will not drop free. I believe the slight pressure from my hand gripping the handle is just enough to prevent the mag from falling free. If I hold the gun by the slide and have no pressure on the handle of the gun the mags will drop free. The gun shop had several 36's in stock and all of them did this.
Now my Father in law has an older gen 3 36 and it will drop it's mags free while gripping the gun tight. It's like Glock made the walls of the grip to thin and they cave in a bit putting pressure on the mag preventing it from releasing. Any ideas guys???? Thank you! |
| Not normal IMHO. I'd clean and lube the inside of the mag well (I use a little ArmorAll, then wipe it outl) and the outside of the magazines. I use CLP, again wipe it on then wipe it off. That should help. I can't see how normal grip pressure could flex the mag well enought to cause binding. If I press hard with finger and thumb in the middle of my mag wells I can just feel a little flex, I'd think anything more would be a OEM material problem. |
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Not normal IMHO. I'd clean and lube the inside of the mag well (I use a little ArmorAll, then wipe it outl) and the outside of the magazines. I use CLP, again wipe it on then wipe it off. That should help. I can't see how normal grip pressure could flex the mag well enought to cause binding. If I press hard with finger and thumb in the middle of my mag wells I can just feel a little flex, I'd think anything more would be a OEM material problem. That is what I thought but 3 different 36's did this. |
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I noticed this too when I got my new 36 home a few weeks ago. I really have to hold the gun in a certain way to drop the mag. I don't have this problem with my 23. WTH? R I'm thinking Glock is making the walls of newer 36's thinner.......to thin perhaps. 
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After playing and really studying this problem it is definitely because the wall are to thin and the slightest pressure on the out sides of the grip causes the mag to bind and not drop free.
My new Glock 30 also does this to a point but not nearly as bad as the 36. All my 9mm Glocks don't do this. I can squeeze as hard as I can and the mags still drop free. No I'm really pissed! I'm calling Glock to see if they have a fix for this. It is totally unacceptable!
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I read this post and decided to experiment with my new Glock 36. No matter how hard I squeeze on the grip the magazines drop clear with no problem. Tried 6 different magazines no problems. Let us know what Glock has to say. How old is your 36? My Father in law has a 3rd Gen 36 but it is several years old. His drops free no problem. |
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My dads 36 drops free, I take it from him when he is not looking  Someday they will all be at my house and he wont know! That is what I did to my Dad and his guns! Took one at a time and put them in my safe! Finally he noticed and I told him they are safe and sound.
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my 36 drops magazines just fine no matter how tight i grip the frame.. IF the magazine is EMPTY. It doesnt like to drop at all if the magazine has more than 2 rounds in it. Yea, tried mine all empty. Still have to hold it at an odd angle front to rear for them to drop free, to the point if I did this at the range during a class I'd probably drop the pistol. Skag, please keep us informed, as I just received another pistol back from that manufacturer for repairs, and it arrived with the slide locked open and the safety on, and the slide wouldn't go forward until I releases the safety!!! Had a roll pin sticking out on the underside. And they replace the hammer and sear for no apparent reason, with the new parts creating a heavier, and gritty trigger pull!! Plus, I now have to re-adjust my adjustable trigger to boot! And all this after a 2 month wait for return. Obviously I'll have some words for them Monday morning. But now I hate to even think of needing to send a firearm in for repair again. |
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Did you try simply pushing the magazine release button a little harder? I have twenty something Glocks, and some are simply harder to get a really smooth hard mag drop out of them. I have always found that simply pushing the release button harder cured the problem.
I seriously doubt Glock started making the walls of the grip thinner. If it was by mistake, the magazines wouldn't fit properly anymore. They would wobble excessively when inserted and that would lead to feeding failures. If it was externally off, the external features wouldn't have molded correctly during production. And I seriously doubt they would take the time to change the size of the molds in order to thin the grip at this point in the game. One, there is no benefit to them thinning it, and two, it would probably cost more to re-mold than it is worth considering that the 36 isn't a wildly popular model. So it would take a while for them to recoup their cost of re-molding for that particular (seemingly worthless) modification. |
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JQP,
How the fuck can you have gotten what you described, when Glock guns don't even have a safety, don't use roll pins, don't have a hammer, don't have a sear, and don't have an adjustable trigger unless it is an aftermarket trigger? And Glock wouldn't return a gun to you, except in stock configuration? So it couldn't be returned to you needing a trigger adjustment? Quoted:
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my 36 drops magazines just fine no matter how tight i grip the frame.. IF the magazine is EMPTY. It doesnt like to drop at all if the magazine has more than 2 rounds in it. Yea, tried mine all empty. Still have to hold it at an odd angle front to rear for them to drop free, to the point if I did this at the range during a class I'd probably drop the pistol. Skag, please keep us informed, as I just received another pistol back from that manufacturer for repairs, and it arrived with the slide locked open and the safety on, and the slide wouldn't go forward until I releases the safety!!! Had a roll pin sticking out on the underside. And they replace the hammer and sear for no apparent reason, with the new parts creating a heavier, and gritty trigger pull!! Plus, I now have to re-adjust my adjustable trigger to boot! And all this after a 2 month wait for return. Obviously I'll have some words for them Monday morning. But now I hate to even think of needing to send a firearm in for repair again. |
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JQP, How the fuck can you have gotten what you described, when Glock guns don't even have a safety, don't use roll pins, don't have a hammer, don't have a sear, and don't have an adjustable trigger unless it is an aftermarket trigger? And Glock wouldn't return a gun to you, except in stock configuration? So it couldn't be returned to you needing a trigger adjustment? Quoted:
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my 36 drops magazines just fine no matter how tight i grip the frame.. IF the magazine is EMPTY. It doesnt like to drop at all if the magazine has more than 2 rounds in it. Yea, tried mine all empty. Still have to hold it at an odd angle front to rear for them to drop free, to the point if I did this at the range during a class I'd probably drop the pistol. Skag, please keep us informed, as I just received another pistol back from that manufacturer for repairs, and it arrived with the slide locked open and the safety on, and the slide wouldn't go forward until I releases the safety!!! Had a roll pin sticking out on the underside. And they replace the hammer and sear for no apparent reason, with the new parts creating a heavier, and gritty trigger pull!! Plus, I now have to re-adjust my adjustable trigger to boot! And all this after a 2 month wait for return. Obviously I'll have some words for them Monday morning. But now I hate to even think of needing to send a firearm in for repair again. Wasn't talking about any of my glocks. Was referring to another brand pistol that had a recall for the firing pin safety. |
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Any news on this after the gun was sent to Glock? I forgot to update you guys! I decided to just sell the 36 to help pay for other stuff. I have way to many handguns including 10 other Glocks to mess around with a problem like this. I also like my 30 better and it is perfect. Sorry to let you down guys! I did look at another new 36 yesterday at Sportsmens Warehouse and it functiond fine droping the mags free everytime......sucks Igot a bad one and sounds like many of you guys did too. Glock needs to find out what some 36's are doing this and some are not. I still think the grips walls are to thin and cause friction on the mags while gripping the gun. |
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Well I called Glock today and they were of the opinion it's me not the gun. Funny I don't have the same problem with my 19 or 23. Ok I'll give it a bit more time and if the problem persists I'll either send it back to them or just sell it and buy a Kahr! G36 isn't in the same league as my other Glocks me thinks.
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Well I called Glock today and they were of the opinion it's me not the gun. Funny I don't have the same problem with my 19 or 23. Ok I'll give it a bit more time and if the problem persists I'll either send it back to them or just sell it and buy a Kahr! G36 isn't in the same league as my other Glocks me thinks. It's the gun not you! So far I have looked at 7 new G36's and a 4 used ones. 2 of the new 36's would drop the mags no problem and 5 of them all the mags stuck. Of the used 36's I saw 2 would drop free and 2 that got stuck. Something is wrong with a lot of the 36's being made. |
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I'm starting to wonder if maybe it's not the gun, but the mags. I picke dup a few more mags at the gun show, and they seem to drop a bit easier than the original ones. Hmmmm.
By the way, 2 of my mags have followers that are flat on the top, and the rest ore notched for the slide release. What's the difference with these? |