Posted: 8/22/2008 12:43:00 PM EDT
| im thinking about getting a set for my G19. whose got some already? do you like them? i am unfamiliar with the usefullness of laser grips, so please educate me |
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www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=5&f=4&t=61534 www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=5&f=4&t=62002 i'm not a huge fan of lasers, but they do have thier uses (esp in low light (main adv imo) , some CQB situations, around barriers, possibly if you are injured, etc) and i do respect thier utility, esp in the right hands and situations on the off hand, they dont operate/seen too well in broad daylight, another target indicatior your way, and if not in the correct hands, a possible hinderance vs an aid, and are hardly an intimidation factor; they are NOT a substitution for proper trigger control and sight use (i.e: dont think that just b/c you have a laser, you will hit your target w/ no effort all the time) for low light, you may be better served w/ night sights and a handheld tac light first; lasers and proper training and practice w/ em will aid your defensive purposes and sight em in YMMV as to brands of lasers in general, the Crimson Trace grips are a great choice--they work, they are durable; i would opt for em vs the lasermax guide rods due to the fact that the rods can break, and if they do, can render your firearm useless during inoppurtune times |
I love my CTC grips, but I've never used their new models for Glocks (my Glocks that have laser-sights have LaserMax internal units), so I can't comment on the first part. But...
They are NOT a substitute for traditional sighting, practice, etc., BUT they can become very valuable to you if (God forbid!) you have to engage in defensive shooting where a traditional sight picture cannot be achieved, for whatever reason (concealment/cover, intermediate barriers, injury/incapacitation, etc.) and can also be useful in some low-light situations. As or non-emergent use, they can also be a valuable training tool. And cats dig 'em.  Seriously, they are just one more tool in the toolbox, not any kind of panacea. I'd rather have them and not need them than need them and not have them, but YMMV as always. In before the "Lasers are useless toys" crowd. [:// ETA: Beat to the punch by 30 seconds! Dang slow typing me! 
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FWIW, I have LaserMax units in five of my Glocks (and had one in a P226 until I sold it) and have never had a single issue with them in many thousands of rounds of use... but that doesn't prove anything, and I have heard of it happening (just haven't seen it first-hand). |
same here (except i dont own one)...h/w, i do see the propensity for such; if the CTs fail during live fire: and its basically you have a $200 laser that doesnt work besides your gun, but the gun still works fine lasermax rod fails, as in it breaks, during string of fire: you now no laser and NO defensive firearm to use  not saying that the lasermaxs are 'junk' or anything (in fact, i think that they are near top quality lasers out there), its just that if it goes down, can present a lot more pressing problems  |
Yep. Don't think I haven't had nightmares of just such an occurrance.  (One of the reasons I always carry a BUG.  )
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I like'em on my G26: I also received one in the mail for my P220:  I should be receiving a CT grip for my 686 Plus 4" anytime now. (Edit: Just got it in the mail and installed it).  I've put about a thousand rounds through my G26 without any issues. It keeps its zero since then and even when I remove the grip and reinstall it. I stayed away from Lasermax because you have to replace a major part of the pistol (guide rod) and the Lasermax is not adjustable. |
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For the glock models I would try and hold one before you bought it it adds some meat to the grip. I havent shot my 17 much with it but the crimson trace grip as a whole are nice products between the Lasermax and the crimson trace comes down to preference CT Activates with natural shooting grip ability to zero to paticular load and range Minimal parts changing LM Tough as nails No user adjustment, usually pretty close to bore sight but if it is off you have to send it in more parts to change out(guide rod+whatever activates it) They are both top notch units but I prefer the CT because I can zero it however I want |