[ARCHIVED THREAD] - G19 or G23 (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 5/9/2008 9:40:55 AM EDT
| Trying to decide on a 19 or a 23. Current uses will be range/nightstand gun. May at some point be a carry gun. Unless current plans change this should be my only GLOCK. So if you could only have one, which would you go with. Thanks. |
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For all around general use I prefer my G19 over my G23. For personal protection and self defense there are a variety of very capable +P rounds available. Even though 9mm has gotten more expensive it's still much cheaper than 40 S&W so the average person can afford to shoot more. If you attend a training class it will be cheaper to purchase ammo (sometimes up to 1500 rounds for a class). A G19 with good, quality, defensive ammo will get the job done effectively. The only time I carry my G23 is when I'm hiking and I want better protection from larger four legged critters. |
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G19. I don't believe 40 offers much, if anything at all, compared to 9mm. 9mm ammo is cheaper, which means more practice, and there are a number of highly effective defense loads. Recoil is usually better in the 9's, which means faster follow-ups, and the 9mm has greater capacity. When you consider there's not much real world difference between the two calibers as far as performance, the 9mm package has more advantages. |
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he Of course then downside is then you'll start wanting a G27 just to accessorize and then then next thing you'll be looking at the 10mm's. |
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Get the G19 ad load it up with some of the good quality 124gr. +P JHP's and you will be in really good shape. I just bought a G19 and love it. I was contemplating the G23 also but most of the posts I read on here and research I did on my own seemed to indicate the G19 is about one of the best guns available today. After taking mine to the range today, for the first time, I would agree. Not to say the G23 is not a great gun also but Glock seems to have really perfected the 9mm's. G19 FTW. |
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Obviously, a biased and misleading post designed to cause trouble! For one that has made a life quest of finding the perfect slice of pie, I contemplated selection of the correct survey button with all of the certainty of Mr. Bean. The only way to manage this decision was to vote twice. G19 and pie. I've used G19s for past 12 years or so and they have never failed in any way with thousands of rounds fired. Dependability, accuracy, affordability, perfect size, easy to repair (if ever needed), and no customizing needed. BTW, I have the 17, 32 and 35 and still prefer the 19s. The 9mm is potent enough with the right load, the recoil is light enough that my wife can easily shoot it accurately, and I like having the 9mm that can double in my 9mm AR. Short answer: G19 all the way! |
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I started buying Glocks twelve years ago. I own both a G23 and G19. For me the G23 is more accurate than my G19. The most accurate Glock I own is a G27 with stock grips, though (go figure). The .40 gives me more peace of mind and is my carry gun backed up by my G27. Get the G19 if you want to have fun shooting. Get the G23 if you want a more powerful show stopper. |
Or just get a G23 and swap in the 9mm barrel and magazine when you want to change calibers. 
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| Without a doubt the Glock 19 would be favorite Glock model. If given the choice of any handgun I would still choose the G19 if I could only have one. Easy to shoot, cheaper to shoot, easy to carry and conceal still with 15 + 1 capacity and you can pretty much get 9mm ammo anywhere in the world. |
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I love my 23. If limited to one handgun, the 23 would stay. The thing I like most about my 23 isn't so much the caliber, as it is the size. To me the 19 and 23 are the perfect size for a general purpose handgun. The 40 will kill a BG dead. The 9mm will also kill a BG dead. Neither of them will kill a BG dead X 2. Therefore, I guess I'll vote for the 19, due to ammo cost. |
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I carry a G19 at work. My determination of going with this gun was based on the fact Glock designed their first gun around the 9mm (G17) and that it is usually a good idea to choose your make and model around the caliber the gun was designed for, for maximum reliability in a semi-automatic pistol. In this same train of thought, if you want a .45 get a 1911, if you want a .40 get a S&W M&P... I went from my 1911 to a G19 simply because I could afford to practice more often based on ammunition prices of 9mm vs. .45 ACP. My first choice in caliber is still .45 but I don't like using a gun I can't practice very often with. By very often, for me, that means at least once a week. |
| You should have included the G30 in your poll. For me it would be between those 2(G19 and G30). They are all roughly the same size pistol so it's more a question of caliber. For me it would be 9mm or .45. I just got rid of my G30 though because of the price of ammo. If money wasn't an issue I'd take the G30, but I have the G19. Not a big fan of the .40 |
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For me, the 19 is about as close to perfect as a handgun can be. It is light, accurate, reliable, easy to carry. I can carry easily in either hot weather or cold. I like having a large capacity simply for the fact that, in the very unlikely event I need more than a few rounds (if I ever need it at all), I do not have to worry about magazine changes as much. Anything I say about the 19, others can say about the 23. I have owned both and just like the 19 better. I have no reservations about carrying a 9mm. I can hit what I shoot at and most human bodies react negatively to foriegn objects entering it at high speeds. |
+1 I load all my own ammo, so I just shoot .40, but if you don't load, get the .40. Then pick up a conversion and shoot 9mm for cheap range practice. You could also start loading pistol ammo for about 550$ with all new equipment. I can load my premium JHP .40 (135gr @ 1350-1400fps or 150gr @ 1200-1250fps) at prices cheaper than buying a case of 9mm plinking ammo. Check out the reloading forum we have here for more info. You might find it feasable for you to get into the hobby... It's a great way to spend some time loading when you have nothing going on, heck, I even have friends come over and they just sit in my reloading room with me and talk while I work, some of them even learned how to load from me. They purchased a lot of equipment based on what I had, and are now full time loaders in every caliber, as am I. The only stuff I purchase is Lake City XM193 now, and that's just because I like it a LOT and it stores great for SHTF stash with sealed primers/bullet.  |
Federal 9mm P9HST3 124g +p= 355ft lbs@25y THE BEST PERFORMING FED. 9x19 HST Federal .40 S&W P40HST3 165g= 425ft lbs@25y THE BEST PERFORMING FED. .40 S&W Federal .45ACP P45HST1 230g +p= 440ft lbs@25y THE BEST PERFORMING FED. HST .45ACP For this ammo the price is the same for 9mm or .40 so that is not a factor. As far as what kills the bad guy the best, all I can say is that I have seen somebody who was shot 7 times with a 9mm across the mid section waist to shoulder that lived, and someone who has died from a single shot from a .22lr.  Shoot both and decide what you like better. If you have girly hands, cant shoot, and need two extra rounds buy the 19. BTW: My 15yr old G23 has never blown up. |
I own both, a G19 and G23. For those who think the G23 is a G19 with a larger calliber stuffed in it haven't been around a G23 much. It is a lot heavier and beefier than a G19. The slide is much thicker at the nose. I like having both because I can use the same holsters with either, though I carry the G23 100% so far. |
Hell I own a G23 that I'm around all the time and I think that. Now I am going to be out a few hundred dollars to go buy a 19 so I can compare the two. Thanks for the excuse!!  I owe you one |