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9/28/2007 1:30:09 PM EDT
During a recent cleaning of my G34 I noticed something different about the Trigger Bar.

Looks like some shaving of the tab.
This pistol has approx 1500 rds on it.  All WWB 115gr. and yes I reload 9mm but for my other 9's not for this pistol, so don't start.

Please look at the pic below and tell me if this is normal wear or damage.  This is the first Glock that I have owned and shot that many rounds through it.

Thanks.

9/28/2007 1:40:29 PM EDT
[#1]
Replace that damaged trigger bar and inspect the firing pin safety for damage also.
9/28/2007 4:51:14 PM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
Replace that damaged trigger bar and inspect the firing pin safety for damage also.


There appears to be no visual damage to the firing pin safety on the surface.

Is there a way to verify that it is working properly?
9/28/2007 5:01:06 PM EDT
[#3]
Not normal for sure, I have two G34's with more rounds through them than that with no wear.  Do you lubricate the gun?
9/28/2007 5:15:00 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
Not normal for sure, I have two G34's with more rounds through them than that with no wear.  Do you lubricate the gun?


Yes I lubed it.  I admit that I did not keep it as clean as I usually do my other firearms.  I have used this pistol quite a bit the last few months.  I put over 1K through it the first week without hardly any cleaning.

I never noticed this until recently though.

I am doing a detailed strip of the slide at the moment.  Other than some gunk in hard to reach places the slide appears ok.

9/28/2007 7:21:20 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Replace that damaged trigger bar and inspect the firing pin safety for damage also.


There appears to be no visual damage to the firing pin safety on the surface.

Is there a way to verify that it is working properly?


If there is no damage to the firing pin safety, then only replace the trigger bar.

The best way to check the firing pin safety operation is to (with gun field stripped only)
depress the firing pin safety and shake the slide from side to side, and listen to the firing pin moving freely in the slide. The noise should subside considerably after performing the same function again. "Without" depressing the firing pin safety.

If the gun is'nt kept clean, and no "hard" malfunction can be found, I would chalk it up as a lack of lubrication along with brass/primer/powder residue.

The slide "cam" (which contacts the connector/trigger reset) comes lubricated from the Glock factory with anti-seize compound, the anti-seize also ends up on the firing pin safety and the part of the trigger bar that contacts the firing pin safety. (which, you seem to have damage on that exact part of the trigger bar.)

I always re-apply the anti-seize in the same locations as when I received the gun new, along with the six area's of gun oil that are required. And I have "never" replaced a worn out trigger bar. (Only to get rid of that crappy "target" trigger bar, to a smooth trigger bar.)

BTW: did you purchase this gun new?  Any mods?
9/28/2007 7:44:53 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Replace that damaged trigger bar and inspect the firing pin safety for damage also.


There appears to be no visual damage to the firing pin safety on the surface.

Is there a way to verify that it is working properly?


If there is no damage to the firing pin safety, then only replace the trigger bar.

The best way to check the firing pin safety operation is to (with gun field stripped only)
depress the firing pin safety and shake the slide from side to side, and listen to the firing pin moving freely in the slide. The noise should subside considerably after performing the same function again. "Without" depressing the firing pin safety.

If the gun is'nt kept clean, and no "hard" malfunction can be found, I would chalk it up as a lack of lubrication along with brass/primer/powder residue.

The slide "cam" (which contacts the connector/trigger reset) comes lubricated from the Glock factory with anti-seize compound, the anti-seize also ends up on the firing pin safety and the part of the trigger bar that contacts the firing pin safety. (which, you seem to have damage on that exact part of the trigger bar.)

I always re-apply the anti-seize in the same locations as when I received the gun new, along with the six area's of gun oil that are required. And I have "never" replaced a worn out trigger bar. (Only to get rid of that crappy "target" trigger bar, to a smooth trigger bar.)

BTW: did you purchase this gun new?  Any mods?



Per your description, the firing pin safety is ok.

I did buy the gun new and it is a stock pistol.  It came with the 3.5# trigger / connector.

Since the plan is to buy a new trigger bar, I decided to see if I could "buff-out" that little bit of damage.  With a fine/small file and some polishing compound, I was able to smooth it out pretty good.  Other than the small gouge on the top, I think it will be ok.

I found this info in this link pretty interesting too.

www.alpharubicon.com/mrpoyz/glock/

Thanks for the info.
9/28/2007 7:53:42 PM EDT
[#7]
ProCCW,

If you don't mind, what are you qualifications? Are you a certified Glock armorer? I'm not asking this to slam you; I'm genuinely interested in how you diagnosed this as my trigger bar looks exactly the same.

I picked up a new G17 in November. I've put about 11K down the tube at this point. At the 10K mark I took it to be serviced by a certified Glock armorer. I asked him about this exact issue and he told me that it wasn't a problem unless burs on the contact areas or a heavy trigger pull was present.

Thanks for any help.
9/28/2007 8:14:06 PM EDT
[#8]
Had the same thing happen to one of my G19s.  I just replaced the trigger bar, and no problems.
9/28/2007 9:18:44 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
ProCCW,

If you don't mind, what are you qualifications? Are you a certified Glock armorer? I'm not asking this to slam you; I'm genuinely interested in how you diagnosed this as my trigger bar looks exactly the same.

I picked up a new G17 in November. I've put about 11K down the tube at this point. At the 10K mark I took it to be serviced by a certified Glock armorer. I asked him about this exact issue and he told me that it wasn't a problem unless burs on the contact areas or a heavy trigger pull was present.

Thanks for any help.


I'm not a Glock armorer. I was fortunate enough to spend half of a day with a Glock armorer who also moderates this forum. From the picture the OP showed, and the lack of damage to the firing pin safety, it appeared to be friction wear reminiscent  of an engine without oil. FWIW-I would have replaced your trigger bar.

6 Glocks and no failure to feed/fire/or eject yet,  and enough spent propellant to burn down my house and the encompassing neighbors houses tells me I'm doing o.k. so far!

I attribute most of my lack of "problems" due to replacing all my guns springs every 2 years whether needed or not, and cleaning the guns after every shooting session.