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8/25/2007 6:51:28 AM EDT
Hoping someone can help me out here, got a G30 and having a really hard time with accuracy, seems like every shot has a mind of its own, right, left, up, down. I had a few other people try it and they were no better. I have tried a light ,medium and a death grip, no change. Any tips on grip, stance or controlling the recoil would be great.
I would love to get it to group a few rounds.
Thanks.
8/25/2007 7:21:25 AM EDT
[#1]
I find mine to be very accurate. I think it was markm who mentioned brass jacketed ammo being an issue with the glocks. What are you using for ammo. I have a chart somewhere about where the shot placement is and the issue to correct (with the shooter that is). I will look for it.
8/25/2007 7:34:34 AM EDT
[#2]
copied from a previous post of mine and built upon:

1st, the best advice is to seek professional training if you want to persue this beyond casual range time

ok, some general advice:

the 2 main general points are trigger and sights

trigger finger: just a tad past the tip of the finger (it will vary where to put your trigger finger on the trigger; its usually somewhere on the 1st flangie, on the joint if its a heavier/DAO/revolver trigger), 'press' straightback, rearward; mod iso is great--60-70% grip w/ the weak hand, 30-40% w/
the strong hand, high hand on the rear tang

strong hand grips 'front to back' (so to speak) on the frame; ''weak'' hand and palms apply pressure/grip 'side to side' on the frame; knurl thumbs down for max force (nice for revolvers and subcompacts also)

"stong" hand/trigger hand concentrates on JUST the
''press'' of the trigger, as your "weak" hand firmly grips the auto
your mind concentrates on the front sight on the target.....trigger press initiates
and gun goes off in a surprise as you continue on concentrating on the front sight...follow through


these might help also:

video:
video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4584332856867071363&q=handgun

readers:

www.backwoodshome.com/articles2/ayoob85.html
www.shootingusa.com/PRO_TIPS/JARRETT2/jarrett2.html
www.uspsa.com/gmTips/tip01.html
www.glockfaq.com/shooting.htm

the two most important things for accurate shooting are trigger and sight (front), everything else helps, but they are also mostly more helpful for follow ups and recoil (such as stance, grip, arms/legs/body/head, etc)
also, two eyes open is a preferable and advantageous thing...use it (if its hard for you to use 2 eyes, it can be broken)

trigger info, esp for glocks:
www.glockfaq.com/trigger.htm

these targets might help also:
www.degrata.com/pdf/commonshootingerrors.pdf
www.tackdriver.com/pix0703/correction.jpg

4 main points:
-trigger control
-sight alighnment
-sight picture
-follow through

some can argue against dry firing, but imo, dryfiring is important practice
(only if what your practice is correct though)

books:
SURGICAL SPEED SHOOTING by andy standford

hope this helps, good luck
8/25/2007 2:11:51 PM EDT
[#3]
Alphaghost.
Thanks for the advice, I saw a few thing you mentioned that I was doing incorrectly concernig grip. I shoot left handed, right eye dominant. will try your recommendations next trip to the range.
8/25/2007 8:33:16 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
Alphaghost.
Thanks for the advice, I saw a few thing you mentioned that I was doing incorrectly concernig grip. I shoot left handed, right eye dominant. will try your recommendations next trip to the range.


no problem mr balloonknot...pls LMK if this helped you any, and i hope it does

also, i re-read your post...do you have more info: how old is the G30? does the bbl seem to be ok--no burrs, muzzle deformaties, etc? do you or any of the other shooters have a lot of expierence w/ shooting glocks?
one of the things that got me about your problem is that your shots are not consistant (bad consistancy is not all bad--at least you can diagnose and fix the problem) at all and seem to be all over the place....are you a new shooter?

also, this probably has no bearing on anything, but what kinda ammo did you use? are your sights ok (not moving)?

FWIW: glock triggers tend to give new folks to glocks accuracy problems...

8/26/2007 4:34:47 AM EDT
[#5]
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Quoted:


also, i re-read your post...do you have more info: how old is the G30? does the bbl seem to be ok--no burrs, muzzle deformaties, etc? do you or any of the other shooters have a lot of expierence w/ shooting glocks?
one of the things that got me about your problem is that your shots are not consistant (bad consistancy is not all bad--at least you can diagnose and fix the problem) at all and seem to be all over the place....are you a new shooter?his
FWIW: glock triggers tend to give new folks to glocks accuracy problems...



It is a new G30, only around 400 rounds through her, I use Remington white box 230 gr ammo. I'm very new to Glocks, and recently got back into shooting after a long time away.
Probably my best bet is to get some professional help for shooting and other issues!!!
8/26/2007 6:15:33 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:

Quoted:


also, i re-read your post...do you have more info: how old is the G30? does the bbl seem to be ok--no burrs, muzzle deformaties, etc? do you or any of the other shooters have a lot of expierence w/ shooting glocks?
one of the things that got me about your problem is that your shots are not consistant (bad consistancy is not all bad--at least you can diagnose and fix the problem) at all and seem to be all over the place....are you a new shooter?

also, this probably has no bearing on anything, but what kinda ammo did you use? are your sights ok (not moving)?

FWIW: glock triggers tend to give new folks to glocks accuracy problems...



It is a new G30, only around 400 rounds through her, I use Remington white box 230 gr ammo. I'm very new to Glocks, and recently got back into shooting after a long time away.
Probably my best bet is to get some professional help for shooting and other issues!!!


well, assuming that everything is A-Ok mechanically, then i'd look to shooter(s) error...OST for update

also, FWIW: many owners of the G30 consider it one of the most (if not so) accurate glocks out there stock, out of the box