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6/4/2007 9:53:29 AM EDT
I know that GLOCK makes a model in .380, and I also know that it can't be imported because it doesn't meet the requirements of the crazy-ass "points system".

But what about parts?

There's already a .22LR conversion kit out there for GLOCKs (and I haven't heard the greatest things about them) so is it unreasonable to believe there's a .380 barrel or conversion kit out there for GLOCKs?

While I'm at it, what about .380 GLOCK magazines (if other caliber - 9mm - mags won't work)?

Seems like the crazy-ass "points system" only applies to the whole firearm.  So what about importing the parts?  And if that's prohibited, what about companies that make these products fresh here in the USA?

Anybody know any place that might have these things?  Having the parts to convert a GLOCK into a .380 sounds fun when you can claim "I have a .380 GLOCK, and it's perfectly legal!"

_MaH
6/4/2007 9:59:02 AM EDT
[#1]
Well, the Glock 25 can be imported now, as it now has enough points.

Of course, Glock now makes frames/guns in the US, so they could make 25/28/380anything if they wanted to. There is really no attraction to a 380 on a 9mm frame. These guns are only for certain countries that prohibit 9mm guns.
6/4/2007 10:22:43 AM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
Well, the Glock 25 can be imported now, as it now has enough points.

Of course, Glock now makes frames/guns in the US, so they could make 25/28/380anything if they wanted to. There is really no attraction to a 380 on a 9mm frame. These guns are only for certain countries that prohibit 9mm guns.


I'm looking at the Factoring Criteria For Weapons worksheet right now.  What did they change to recover those extra 7 points?  (Or however many there were short of)

_MaH
6/4/2007 10:50:27 AM EDT
[#3]

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Well, the Glock 25 can be imported now, as it now has enough points.

Of course, Glock now makes frames/guns in the US, so they could make 25/28/380anything if they wanted to. There is really no attraction to a 380 on a 9mm frame. These guns are only for certain countries that prohibit 9mm guns.


Exactly.  Get a G19.
6/4/2007 11:03:32 AM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Well, the Glock 25 can be imported now, as it now has enough points.

Of course, Glock now makes frames/guns in the US, so they could make 25/28/380anything if they wanted to. There is really no attraction to a 380 on a 9mm frame. These guns are only for certain countries that prohibit 9mm guns.


Exactly.  Get a G19.


Had one for quite a while  Just got curious about if a .380 conversion kit existed as a .22LR does.

_MaH
6/4/2007 11:04:43 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Well, the Glock 25 can be imported now, as it now has enough points.

Of course, Glock now makes frames/guns in the US, so they could make 25/28/380anything if they wanted to. There is really no attraction to a 380 on a 9mm frame. These guns are only for certain countries that prohibit 9mm guns.


I'm looking at the Factoring Criteria For Weapons worksheet right now.  What did they change to recover those extra 7 points?  (Or however many there were short of)

_MaH


Loaded Chamber Indicator is the new part, that gives them enough points now.

6/4/2007 11:16:20 AM EDT
[#6]
Cool table!  Thanks for sharing!

_MaH
6/4/2007 11:20:52 AM EDT
[#7]
Isnt a glock in .380 a solution to a problem that does not exist. If  you going to get  a defensive hand gun you might as well go for the 9mm.


6/4/2007 11:30:41 AM EDT
[#8]

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Isnt a glock in .380 a solution to a problem that does not exist. If  you going to get  a defensive hand gun you might as well go for the 9mm.
Actually 380 guns can be made really small, witness the Colt 380 Mustangs.  Way smaller than even the 9mm G26
6/4/2007 6:57:02 PM EDT
[#9]
not to hijack this thread, but if Glock made a 9mm, .40 cal or 380 cal along the size of a Kahr PM9, I'd buy one...until then I'm keeping my 23 and Kahr as a BUG.
6/4/2007 9:01:34 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
Well, the Glock 25 can be imported now, as it now has enough points.

Of course, Glock now makes frames/guns in the US, so they could make 25/28/380anything if they wanted to. There is really no attraction to a 380 on a 9mm frame. These guns are only for certain countries that prohibit 9mm guns.


since when did glock start making the frame in the us? that's news to me.
6/5/2007 5:36:07 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Well, the Glock 25 can be imported now, as it now has enough points.

Of course, Glock now makes frames/guns in the US, so they could make 25/28/380anything if they wanted to. There is really no attraction to a 380 on a 9mm frame. These guns are only for certain countries that prohibit 9mm guns.


since when did glock start making the frame in the us? that's news to me.


Maybe 2-3 years ago.
6/5/2007 8:15:58 PM EDT
[#12]
Glock only makes the G17 size frames in the US, and although they anounced the new machinery for doing so in 2005, they didn't actually start making the frames here until less than a year ago.  Seeing how the G25 and G28 are not full size frames, the fact that Glock makes frames here has no bearing on their putting those models to market here.
6/5/2007 8:17:45 PM EDT
[#13]

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Isnt a glock in .380 a solution to a problem that does not exist. If  you going to get  a defensive hand gun you might as well go for the 9mm.




As was already pointed out.  There are countries that do not allow "military" calibers for guns that are sold to civilians.  Glock made a 380 caliber gun to sell in those countries.  How is that a solution to a problem that doesn't exist?
6/5/2007 8:48:56 PM EDT
[#14]
Also, the chart posted is not accurate.  All the weights should be bumped up by one.  It looks like the point system rounds up on the weights.  Otherwise, the G26 would never have been importable prior to introduction of the loaded chamber indicator, and we all know they were imported prior to the LCI being introduced.  In other words, according to this chart, without the LCI, the G26 would only have 74 points.  Minimum is 75.  And the G17 doesn't have a target trigger.  I am also pretty sure the 308s are not considered to have a locked breach.  As soon as the gun fires, the actions begins to work.  There is no delayed blowback locking feature as there is with the rest of the Glocks.  This is evidenced by the huge ramp milled into the front of the barrel hood on the 380s.

So the G25 is still only sitting at 72 points, even with the LCI, and the G28 should be at 67 points, even with the LCI.
6/5/2007 8:50:50 PM EDT
[#15]
Well you are just pissing on me tonight aren't ya?

I had seen tables where the weights were rounded down, and up, so I took the conservative approach and rounded down. Thanks for the correction(s).
6/6/2007 5:59:24 AM EDT
[#16]
There's never been a prohibition of Glock's importing .380 uppers, which, of course, will work pefectly on Glock 9mm frames.  Wonder why they didn't just import a .380 upper "conversion kit"?????