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4/16/2007 5:57:26 AM EDT
I was considering getting a .22 conversion kit and have looked at both the Ciener and Advantage Arms.  Has anyone had any experience with either?  Is one better than the other?

Thanks,
Mark
4/16/2007 6:45:53 AM EDT
[#1]
Save yourself some grief and get the Advantage Arms, with the Ciener you run a 50-50 chance it won't function with any ammo.


4/17/2007 7:36:33 PM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
Save yourself some grief and get the Advantage Arms, with the Ciener you run a 50-50 chance it won't function with any ammo.




Did you experience that first hand or is that what most owners are reporting? Ciener's website says "The unit functions FLAWLESSLY (guaranteed) on good quality High Velocity, Hyper Velocity and some Standard Velocity quality .22 LR ammunition." Just because they say that doesn't mean it's true though.

There was a thread in the GD about the Advantage Arms conversion and someone mentioned it didn't perform so well with Federal ammo. Their website recommends only high velocity rounds, but the Remington Golden bullets work well too. The AA kit also has the last round slide lock feature while the Ciener doesn't.

They both have a one year warranty. Ciener is $200 + $35 for mags while the AA is $250 + $25 for mags. Bonus for the AA kit is it uses standard Glock sights. The sights on the Ciener are part of the slide.

I think I might be ordering an Advantage Arms kit in a few days.
4/17/2007 7:45:47 PM EDT
[#3]
I have the Advantage Arms kit and have shot tons of ammo through it.  I usually go through 300-600 rounds.  Towards the end, I run into occasional malfunctions.  Lately the casing is caught (during ejection).  I had a minor issue with feeding where I sent the kit back to Advantage Arms.  They smoothed out the breech face (since some of the finish was partially worn off.)  I had excellent service, and they even sent me some additional (new style) mags for my trouble.

I use Golden Bullet hollowpoints.  The solid 40gr are the ones recommended, but they are harder to come by and the hollowpoints are a lot cheaper.  I have also shot CCI Minimags which work great.  The minimags have a waxy coating on the copper and I sometimes wonder if it was affecting the way my rounds were loading (or not loading) while being fired.

I have also used the Remington Viper and the Aguila 30gr solid.  Both have been reliable.  Have fun with your kit, it is well worth the investment, especially helpful in trigger reset drills.