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1/31/2007 12:47:39 PM EDT
My buddy has a Glock 21. He has a problem with stovepiping. Are there any common causes for this that may be unique to the glock? Recoil spring, extractor, ejector, limpwristing? I think the Glocks are terrific pistols (I own several 1911's so don't be haterizin'), but I've never heard of them having this particular problem. I would appreciate any help from the Glockmeisters.

Thanks,
Rick
1/31/2007 1:05:34 PM EDT
[#1]
My experience with this problem in my pers. Glock was due to recoil spring.  If it gets "worn" or if you don't have the spring matched to the reloads you are shooting.  I would start here first!!  Then I would look at the mag you are using!!
1/31/2007 1:09:44 PM EDT
[#2]
Most common cause for stovepiping is limpwristing.  The shooter needs to make sure that neither the wrists or elbows act as shock absorbers, when shooting.  
1/31/2007 1:27:47 PM EDT
[#3]
I hope it's not limpwristing, it would break my heart to tell him he shoots like a girl.  If it turns out to be the recoil spring, would you go with a new stock weight spring or a pound or two lighter. He is using the stock mags, as far as I know, how would they effect ejection?

Rick
1/31/2007 1:35:46 PM EDT
[#4]
If you are shooting factory loads the stock recoil spring weight is fine.  If the mag spring is weak or if the mag is extra dirty the round (usually toward the end of the mag capacity) will not "rise" up enough.  When the slide pulls the round forward it is deflected up more than straight out and thus causes a stovepipe.
1/31/2007 1:42:54 PM EDT
[#5]
Clarify!  If the spent cartridge is sp'in then recoil spring; if unspent round, then mag.  I have had both problems with my competition Glock.
1/31/2007 1:50:39 PM EDT
[#6]
Aaaaahhhhhh, I follow now. Thanks for the insight. Should be easier to diagnose now that I'm educated just enough to be dangerous. Off to the range we go.

Rick
1/31/2007 7:45:31 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
....., would you go with a new stock weight spring or a pound or two lighter....


I run a #22 spring in my G21 & G20 without any issues. If you follow what one vender says at one of the other forums he will try to tell you a lighter spring will reduce the felt recoil(as long as you buy the parts from him). Below is a pic of a replacement receiver that was using a lighter recoil spring. The first receiver was replaced for free. It took the owner this second damaged receiver(below) to realize that the lighter spring was the problem.

1/31/2007 7:46:43 PM EDT
[#8]
.....  double post
1/31/2007 8:51:49 PM EDT
[#9]
I can 98% guarantee that the problem is limpwristing.  its not a "girly" thing to do.  I see it all the time at the range I work at.  In fact, its very common because a lot of people never learned how to shoot properly.  I try and help...if they are open minded and can listen, they learn...if they are too stubborn to hear anything negative about themselves, they'll shoot like shit for a long time.
1/31/2007 10:36:27 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
I hope it's not limpwristing, it would break my heart to tell him he shoots like a girl.  If it turns out to be the recoil spring, would you go with a new stock weight spring or a pound or two lighter. He is using the stock mags, as far as I know, how would they effect ejection?

Rick


You should tell your friend to throw a ball as hard as he can and you'll know for sure...if you know what I mean.  

That would be my first guess is limpwristing.  Try shooting it yourself or have him try to stiffen his wrists and posture.
2/1/2007 10:16:41 AM EDT
[#11]
http://www.spw-duf.info/emperor.html#reset