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Posted: 1/9/2006 4:09:49 PM EDT
Looking for my first glock and don't know which one to get, this is pretty much a caliber debate, but what do you guys use? and what do you like/ not like about them.
PS. gun will be used hard for range shooting, tactical competition, and eventually ccw, My uncle thinks he can out shoot me in any tac. scenario with his SW99, I doubtit., thanks for any info/pros and cons
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 6:32:36 PM EDT
Get the G23, that way you can shoot up all his ammo.

Then if you want to shoot 9mm or 357 the conversions are easy.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 6:43:06 PM EDT
i'd go w/ the G19--cheaper ammo

Link Posted: 1/10/2006 2:41:52 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ALPHAGHOST:
i'd go w/ the G19--cheaper ammo




+1
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 8:24:00 AM EDT
357 sig is a worthless caliber, 9mm+P is the same thing and has more capacity, get the G19

RoseMech
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 8:43:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/10/2006 8:45:05 AM EDT by SPDSNYPR]

Originally Posted By RoseMech:
357 sig is a worthless caliber, 9mm+P is the same thing and has more capacity, get the G19

RoseMech



Not really. The sig round is faster with a lower pressure, and the bullet design is a little different.

That said, the 19 is the way to go. Cheaper ammo, higher capacity, and the 9mm really does kill people just fine as long as you hit them where needed (which is easier with the lower recoil 9mm which you practice with alot).

BTW, as far as I know, you can't make a Glock 23 shoot 9mm - different breechface (case size is different). You'd need a new slide, wouldn't you? To convert to .357 sig, all you need is a new bbl.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 9:57:44 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SPDSNYPR:
BTW, as far as I know, you can't make a Glock 23 shoot 9mm - different breechface (case size is different). You'd need a new slide, wouldn't you? To convert to .357 sig, all you need is a new bbl.



A 9mm conversion barrel is what you need.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 10:13:11 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Researcher:

Originally Posted By SPDSNYPR:
BTW, as far as I know, you can't make a Glock 23 shoot 9mm - different breechface (case size is different). You'd need a new slide, wouldn't you? To convert to .357 sig, all you need is a new bbl.



A 9mm conversion barrel is what you need.



LIB - I was under the impression that the case head sizes were different, is that not the case? I guess I need to go compare the two (I have a 9mm and .357 sig) to see if they are the same before I go spoutin' off.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 10:31:05 AM EDT

Originally Posted By mak48:
... gun will be used hard for range shooting, tactical competition, and eventually ccw ...


I like the G19 for these purposes. 9mm is innexpensive, which is good if you want to do a lot of range shooting, and there are plenty of 9mm ammo choices that are perfectly acceptable for CCW, not to mention 9mm mags hold more rounds.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 10:31:08 AM EDT
OK - I don't get it. I'll post a crappy pic, but the case head size is decidedly different. How does the pistol work right with a case head that is so much smaller when moving f/ 40/.357 sig to 9mm?

Link Posted: 1/10/2006 5:27:31 PM EDT
For the reasons you listed I would have to say the G19.

Then, get the 23 and after that get the 32
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 6:01:04 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SPDSNYPR:
OK - I don't get it. I'll post a crappy pic, but the case head size is decidedly different. How does the pistol work right with a case head that is so much smaller when moving f/ 40/.357 sig to 9mm?]



All the 40 parts will work with the 9mm(except mags). I have done the conversion on several Glocks. Yes the case head on the 9mm is smaller but not enough to make a difference.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 6:16:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/10/2006 6:16:26 PM EDT by SPECOPS31]
Carry a 31 on duty and getting a 33 for off duty. Get the .357 sig
I also have a new 17 but is for when Grandma comes over to shoot.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 6:41:52 PM EDT
Get the 30
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 7:26:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/10/2006 7:49:41 PM EDT by triggerfinger]


"All the 40 parts will work with the 9mm(except mags). I have done the conversion on several Glocks. Yes the case head on the 9mm is smaller but not enough to make a difference. "

Hotrod, are you saying any glock 9mm barrel, or a barrel specifically designed for the conversion? I'm thinking of getting rid of my 23, as I'm wanting a 9mm to suppress.

Even if I bought a 9mm, I'd still have to spring for an extended, threaded barrel...sounds like maybe I won't have to get rid of the 23?

Also, any chance I'd have to change out the extractor?

Thanks in advance,

ETA just ran a search, now I understand that a conversion barrel is in order...but can't find one that is extended length. Any suggestions?
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 7:53:56 PM EDT

Originally Posted By triggerfinger:
... or a barrel specifically designed for the conversion?..



Yes, you would need a 9mm conversion barrel. The factory 9mm barrel is smaller in diameter then the 40. The 9mm conversion barrel in larger in diameter for the conversion. I have yet to change any thing other then mags. I have read where others changed out the ejector, extractor and the spring loaded bearing but did not give a reason.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 7:56:07 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 8:55:50 AM EDT
19
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 8:58:45 AM EDT
I gotta go with G17 but I like a full size pistol
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 1:36:08 PM EDT
Actually if I was going to get a full size, It would definitely be the 21, and that actually may be what I do because I am going to wait a month or two to save some more money. Definitely want a glock though.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 1:44:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/11/2006 1:45:13 PM EDT by Hellhound]
I would go with the 19 for the reasons above.

I also have a SIG 226 in 9mm and if I had to choose 1---it would be the Glock.

I would hate to give up my SIG though.



ETA: Use G19 mags for CCW and G17 mags for reloads on the belt.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 1:47:57 PM EDT
G38

Link Posted: 1/12/2006 2:29:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/12/2006 2:30:30 PM EDT by The_Lynch_Family]
I was going through the same debate a couple weeks back. I ended up purchasing the glock 23 and have on order the 9mm conversion barrel so I can shoot either caliber. I also placed an order for a threaded one so I can add a suppressor some day in the near future. That is after I move to a free state ,, LOL
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