Posted: 8/21/2005 7:25:41 AM EDT
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I found the stock mag catch on my G17 to hurt my thumb, so filing fixed that problem. However, I cannot do tactical reloads! I find that I can't apply enough force with my thumb to release the mag unless I tilt the pistol like you would normally do to reload, which makes tactical reloads extremely difficult. Is this normal? I'm thinking about getting a Glock extended mag release (#1981) and rounding off the corners. |
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That is about the first part I swap out and for $2.50+ shipping if you don't like it you're not out much. |
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The stock mag catch is just too damn short to be of any use. i found that I had to give it excessive "force" even with the gun rotated a few degrees, in order to drop Glock factory mags. It's because the catch button is too short. I know it's designed to prevent accidental mag drops, but it gets in the way of commanded mag drops. I'll see how the Extended Slide Stop feels. As-is, the stock slide stop is almost impractical to use. It seems that most of the parts on the Glock 17 Pro or Glock 34 seem practical. Now I just have to figure out a way to prevent the checkering from killing my pinky finger (it's all bruised up). |
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I have seen both the extended mag catch and slide catch cause about as many problems as they resolve. Inadvertant release of a magazine is no laughing matter, and I have seen more than one or two Glocks with extended release buttons do this while holstered as well as while being fired. The "problem" many shooters seem to have is their belief that they should be able to engage the release button with no shifting of the gun or the hand...something that is rarely any faster but definitely more prone to unintentional release of the magazine during any activity with the gun in hand other than static target shooting...at least for many shooters. Another issue here is that if you do not shift the position of the "strong" hand (for right-handed shooters) it is very possible that you will end up pushing against your own hand AND the release button since the catch body must extend out from the left side of the grip when activated. Before you go to an extended button, try shifting the hand a bit and hitting the button with the TIP of the right thumb, not the ball...I think you will see that this works perfectly for most shooters. I have seen many, many premature slide lock problems, especially with the "baby" Glocks, when using the extended slide catches. These often happen only when the pistol is fired rapidly and, for lack of a better term, "accumulated recoil" causes the pistol to shift a bit and bumps the slide catch into the hand. The standard Glock catch is designed to be only that...a "catch"...not both a catch and a release. I once bought a very nice G27 cheap because the owner had installed an extended catch and thought the gun was unreliable. As soon as I removed the extended catch and replaced it with a standard one, the "problem" disappeared. I realize that a few shooters do, in fact, need one or both of these parts, but I completely agree with clubsoda22...keep the Glock as stock as possible. JMO |
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I did not know that the slide stop was not to be used as a slide release on the Glock. I'm just used to the AR-15's ergonomic features! As for the mag catch, after rounding it off, it now feels a lot more comfortable to use. I will try using the tip of the thumb instead of the heel of the thumb! This makes more sense now, but do you lose a tactical advantage by having to pull the slide back each time to chamber the first round? This is on a full-framed Glock 17. |
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"Do you lose a tactical advantage"? My opinion is no, even if it takes you, say, 1/4 second longer to release the slide this way. My reasoning for this belief is that what tiny increment of time you may gain by using the thumb to release the Glock slide is more than offset by the consistency of the "slingshot" method, which can be used with any autopistol, and works for one-handed reloads with either hand. (ever try a left hand only reload with a Sig?) In addition, the slight amount of "overtravel" gained with this method makes it slightly more reliable when using a dirty or dry pistol, or when a FTF might get you killed. While the belief that if all other things are equal, the fastest shooter is the "best" has some amount of merit, the idea that speed is an end unto itself can be a dangerous one. I am not the first guy to say this, but there is a great deal of difference between "shooting" and "fighting with guns", and the guy who can shoot the tightest group or pull a trigger the fastest, or make a "golly-gee" reload may, or may not be the guy you want on your side when things get up-close, down and dirty, and it is no longer a game. OTOH if you are shooting USPSA / IPSC matches, that 1/4 second can, indeed, be the difference between finishing in the money or not. Just remember that the habits you learn or allow yourself to pick up will be those you will default to under stress. Frankly, if you decide to shoot competition the way you would want to fight, you will often finish far down the list. The choice is yours. |
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As far as the slide stop, when i bought my 22 and my 27, both at the same time, the 27 came with the standard slide stop, but the 22 came with the extended one. both were shipped strait from the factory this way. is this unusual, or does glock install the extended slide releases often? |
+1 this is exactly what i was gonna say. Unless you are shooting competition and racing you shouldnt be using the button to release the slide anyways. If it makes you feel better then do it, but i honestly COULD NOT tell you the last time i used my slide release button. my. 02 AA |
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The extended slide release is nothing more than the magazine release from a wide frame Glock ( 20,29,21,30). Typically when i install one i have to sand the edges off so it's comfortable. Being able to release your mag without altering your grip is a good thing. IMHO. J |
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