Glock 9mm ejector differences and performance comparison (with video) 336 vs 30274 vs 47021. (Page 3 of 4)
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Originally Posted By swampvol:
Gen 3 or 4? Originally Posted By swampvol:
Originally Posted By alpharomeofifteen:
I put another 100 rounds through it yesterday and I did not get even one empty case kicked back at me and every ejection was strong. This was a pistol that had weak ejection in general and every other case was ending up hitting my arms, face, down my shirt, or on the bill of my hat occasionally. I do not believe this was a "break in" problem. Suarez extractor cured it. 80P Builder slide w/OEM Glock internals |
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Originally Posted By SafetyFirst:
Does the 47208 Ejector work with a G19/GEN4 ? |
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Originally Posted By grondike:
47208 is the part number for the Gen 5 trigger housing, which includes the 47021 ejector. Glock does not sell the ejector as a separate part, so you would need to buy the Gen 5 housing, remove the ejector and install it into a Gen 4 housing. Originally Posted By grondike:
47208 is the part number for the Gen 5 trigger housing, which includes the 47021 ejector. Glock does not sell the ejector as a separate part, so you would need to buy the Gen 5 housing, remove the ejector and install it into a Gen 4 housing. |
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Originally Posted By SafetyFirst:
Thank you, that is what I need to know. Originally Posted By SafetyFirst:
Originally Posted By grondike:
47208 is the part number for the Gen 5 trigger housing, which includes the 47021 ejector. Glock does not sell the ejector as a separate part, so you would need to buy the Gen 5 housing, remove the ejector and install it into a Gen 4 housing. 
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Originally Posted By DamnYankee01:
The 47021 ejector coupled with the non-LCI bearing worked like a charm in my Gen4 G26. It throws the brass in a beautiful arc to the right, not even close to hitting me now. Thanks |
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Originally Posted By grondike: A tip that I learned here - rather than pulling the ejector out the front of the housing with pliers, use a small flat tip to push it out from the back. Pliers can leave scratches or scrapes on the business end. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/622/glk_ejector-823577.jpg |
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Originally Posted By SafetyFirst: I am not familiar with the non-LCI bearing. Could you tell me what that is and its' purpose ? I ask because BTF with my G19/4 is still somewhat of an issue and would like to resolve it. Thanks https://www.rockyourglock.com/custom/glsp01176.htm |
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Originally Posted By DamnYankee01:
I link to it at the end. It's the part at the end of the extractor spring that rides against your extractor. LCI stands for "loaded chamber indicator". The bearing for the non-LCI extractor is a bit longer thus placing more pressure on the extractor. This can help with weak/erratic ejection and BTF issues. https://www.rockyourglock.com/custom/glsp01176.htm Originally Posted By DamnYankee01:
Originally Posted By SafetyFirst: I am not familiar with the non-LCI bearing. Could you tell me what that is and its' purpose ? I ask because BTF with my G19/4 is still somewhat of an issue and would like to resolve it. Thanks https://www.rockyourglock.com/custom/glsp01176.htm |
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Originally Posted By DamnYankee01:
I link to it at the end. It's the part at the end of the extractor spring that rides against your extractor. LCI stands for "loaded chamber indicator". The bearing for the non-LCI extractor is a bit longer thus placing more pressure on the extractor. This can help with weak/erratic ejection and BTF issues. https://www.rockyourglock.com/custom/glsp01176.htm Originally Posted By DamnYankee01:
Originally Posted By SafetyFirst: I am not familiar with the non-LCI bearing. Could you tell me what that is and its' purpose ? I ask because BTF with my G19/4 is still somewhat of an issue and would like to resolve it. Thanks https://www.rockyourglock.com/custom/glsp01176.htm That plastic piece simply acts as a guide, spring end anchor and spacer, and yes, the non-LCI bearing is a hair longer than the LCI version, increasing the spring tension. |
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Originally Posted By bluemax_1:
Hang on a sec, I'm pretty sure the plastic part sits against the slide's back plate. The bigger end of the metal rod rides against the extractor. That plastic piece simply acts as a guide, spring end anchor and spacer, and yes, the non-LCI bearing is a hair longer than the LCI version, increasing the spring tension. You are exactly right. I must have been off my meds when I wrote that. The plastic part I reference does, indeed, ride against the backplate. NOT the extractor as I originally posted. Sorry for any confusion. |
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Originally Posted By drmgallen:
Whom ever wrote that the Suarez extractor was the answer...they were right... I have never seen such a nice pile of brass from my Glock...and never bounced off my face... Get some... Still using the 336 ejector with the new extractor? Gen 3? |
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Originally Posted By swampvol:
@drmgallen Still using the 336 ejector with the new extractor? Gen 3? Originally Posted By swampvol:
Originally Posted By drmgallen:
Whom ever wrote that the Suarez extractor was the answer...they were right... I have never seen such a nice pile of brass from my Glock...and never bounced off my face... Get some... Still using the 336 ejector with the new extractor? Gen 3? Suarez extractor is going on all my stock Glocks... I think they are still on sale for $39.99. Worth it... |
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Originally Posted By drmgallen: Yes...Gen 3 with the 336 ejector....with the Suarez extractor... Suarez extractor is going on all my stock Glocks... I think they are still on sale for $39.99. Worth it... |
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Originally Posted By drmgallen: Yes...Gen 3 with the 336 ejector....with the Suarez extractor... Suarez extractor is going on all my stock Glocks... I think they are still on sale for $39.99. Worth it... Thank you. |
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| Hey guys, this thread is going a bit off the rails. The Saurez extractor looks like a great product, but I’d ask that if you want to start discussing it to please make another thread. This thread is about folks experiences with the different OEM ejectors. A lot of folks such as myself prefer to stick to OEM parts in our Glocks and I’d like to keep the topic centered around that. |
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Originally Posted By BuckeyeRifleman:
Hey guys, this thread is going a bit off the rails. The Saurez extractor looks like a great product, but I’d ask that if you want to start discussing it to please make another thread. This thread is about folks experiences with the different OEM ejectors. A lot of folks such as myself prefer to stick to OEM parts in our Glocks and I’d like to keep the topic centered around that. Try it... |
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Originally Posted By drmgallen: I understand what you are talking about. The 336 ejector works like a charm with the Saurez extractor. Did not have that experience with the stock Glock extractor. So far working like a charm on my two Glocks that ejected to my face.. The Saurez works for me with the 336 ejector... Try it... |
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Originally Posted By BuckeyeRifleman:
Thanks man! By chance did you try the 47021 before swapping extractors? Like you I never had great results with the 30374. Originally Posted By BuckeyeRifleman:
Originally Posted By drmgallen: I understand what you are talking about. The 336 ejector works like a charm with the Saurez extractor. Did not have that experience with the stock Glock extractor. So far working like a charm on my two Glocks that ejected to my face.. The Saurez works for me with the 336 ejector... Try it... |
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I tried the 30274 last week in my gen 3 and it definitely helped with the ejection. Kicked all the brass out at around 4:00-5:00, but I did get multiple failure to feeds with the new round being jammed into the feed ramp. Maybe 4-5 out of 150 rounds with a mixture of 124g Blazer and 147G Speer Lawman. Never had this happen before. |
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Originally Posted By PnQ:
Sorry guys, I'm new to glocks and I'm building a G26L polymer 80. What trigger housing/ejector do I want to use for reliable consistent ejection? First you need a Gen 3 trigger housing it is the only one that will fit the P80 frame. Glock part #SP00322 (it has the 336 ejector in it, pull it out) If you want the latest and greatest ejector, buy a Gen 5 housing Glock part #47208 which comes with a 47021 ejector. Pull that ejector out and put it in your SP00322 housing. |
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Originally Posted By zwitterr: Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think that's only for Gen 2 guns. |
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Originally Posted By kaneman23: The early 3rd gens didn't have the LCI. They have used at least 3 different extractors on the gen 3 guns over the years. The non-LCI, non-dipped w\LCI, and dipped with LCI. The dipped w\LCI fit tight in some guns but didn't make a difference when I tested them in a 17 and 19. The ejector swap is what improved both my 17/19. I'm sure one of the aftermarket extractors would further improve but I like staying as close to OEM as possible.  Glock 17 Gen 4 ejector replacement |
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Originally Posted By kaneman23: The early 3rd gens didn't have the LCI. They have used at least 3 different extractors on the gen 3 guns over the years. The non-LCI, non-dipped w\LCI, and dipped with LCI. The dipped w\LCI fit tight in some guns but didn't make a difference when I tested them in a 17 and 19. The ejector swap is what improved both my 17/19. I'm sure one of the aftermarket extractors would further improve but I like staying as close to OEM as possible. |
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Originally Posted By alpharomeofifteen:
I'm glad some are able to fix with a simple ejector swap. I ran across a video that I had not seen previously-first part shows him shooting w/stovepipe issues. Second part is interesting how he traces the path of the spent cases....  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8Uhy6Zv15U |
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| So I just bought a new G17 g5(but manufacutured in late 2017) and the ejection pattern is weak and it like softly lobs them over my shoulder. It's the weakest of any gun I've soht, and much weaker than my G26 gen 5. I found this thread and it seems that the issue is that the ejector is # 30274 but it should be #47021, or am I misunderstanding and the appropriate ejector is indeed the stock one found on the early pistols?(30274). I am going to send it back to Glock and let them rectify it, but I am wondering if its as simple as this ejector being inadequate for this gun, because my G26.5 is flawless. Any ideas? I was using 147gr Speer lawman cleanfire ammo, which I use with all of my guns without issue. |
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Originally Posted By bm303:
So I just bought a new G17 g5(but manufacutured in late 2017) and the ejection pattern is weak and it like softly lobs them over my shoulder. It's the weakest of any gun I've soht, and much weaker than my G26 gen 5. I found this thread and it seems that the issue is that the ejector is # 30274 but it should be , or am I misunderstanding and the appropriate ejector is indeed the stock one found on the early pistols?(30274). I am going to send it back to Glock and let them rectify it, but I am wondering if its as simple as this ejector being inadequate for this gun, because my G26.5 is flawless. Any ideas? I was using 147gr Speer lawman cleanfire ammo, which I use with all of my guns without issue. Glocks are actually very easy to work on.....I think the easiest of all pistols. Instead buy a Glock Trigger Mechanism Housing (TMH) # 47028 (for 19X) $5.00 - $10.00 depending on where you buy. TMH #47028 contains the ejector #47021 You pull 47021 out of its TMH and insert it into YOUR TMH (the ejector is not available separately) At a minimum you need to push out the polymer pin in the grip to allow your TMH to come up above the frame so you can make the ejector swap.. Don't force anything and you will be fine. Youtube videos abound on this |
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I know it's somewhat veering off topic, but I believe it's relevant to the thread.
After testing the various ejectors, along with both the Apex and Suarez extractors, my personal preference has shifted to 336 ejector + Apex or Suarez extractor. Here's why: - in testing, yes the 47021 ejector produced more consistent ejection, with no BTF. To clarify, there were no failures to eject with the 336 ejector, just inconsistent ejection with rounds occasionally going straight up, and some BTF (even with A-zone 0.13s - 0.14s splits, so no limpwristing). The issue - if you've swapped in the 47021 ejector, check this for yourself. Remove the slide and insert a loaded mag. Does the top round contact the ejector and get pushed down? It did on all the swaps I checked. The 336 ejector clears the top round by a tiny fraction. Is this contact an issue? Honestly, I don't know. Will the contact from repeatedly slamming a loaded mag in, potentially stress the plastic trigger housing that the ejector is inserted in, enough to cause cracking/failure down the road? I don't know. It may not be an issue at all, or it may turn up after a lot of rounds. The 336 + Apex/Suarez extractors produce very consistent ejection and eliminate that point of stress, and as far as I can tell, the only downside is the higher cost (also needs a non-LCI SLB). Take these informal observations whichever way you prefer. |
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Originally Posted By EzGoingKev:
@bluemax_1 - Have you tried the 30274 ejector? The ejection with the 47021 seemed to be more consistent (tighter pile of brass on the ground. The 30274 group had a greater spread of cases near and far) and stronger (the tighter pile of brass was grouped a bit further away with the 47021) than with the 30274, but both seemed to eliminate BTF. |
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Originally Posted By bluemax_1:
I tried those before the 47021 ejector, but did not check for contact with an inserted mag. The ejection with the 47021 seemed to be more consistent (tighter pile of brass on the ground. The 30274 group had a greater spread of cases near and far) and stronger (the tighter pile of brass was grouped a bit further away with the 47021) than with the 30274, but both seemed to eliminate BTF. PITA and enough for me to change it out to 47021 which doesn't encroach to the right as much as 336. All my 9mm's have the 47201 ejectors and ejection is very good. If the top round is making contact with the 47021, I'm not worried about it. The top round is under spring load and not a solid object. The Glock ejector and TMH are a robust design. I don't want to have to buy an aftermarket extractor at 4-5x the cost of an OEM ejector to fix something that either doesn't need fixing or can be fixed with a $7.00 part. YMMV |
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Originally Posted By Direct-Drive:
Don't send it to Glock unless you're squeamish about working on it. Glocks are actually very easy to work on.....I think the easiest of all pistols. Instead buy a Glock Trigger Mechanism Housing (TMH) # 47028 (for 19X) $5.00 - $10.00 depending on where you buy. TMH #47028 contains the ejector #47021 You pull 47021 out of its TMH and insert it into YOUR TMH (the ejector is not available separately) At a minimum you need to push out the polymer pin in the grip to allow your TMH to come up above the frame so you can make the ejector swap.. Don't force anything and you will be fine. Youtube videos abound on this Are Gen 5 TMH not all the same? I ask because I ordered a 47028 for my (3) 19.5s due to "dribbling" extraction. I went through the Glock class pre-Gen 5, I thought I was GTG on Gen5 workings but maybe not. 
My high mileage 19.5 has just passed the 11k mark, its a early "rebuild label" model. Ironically it has the "best" ejection. Newest 19 is the worst. Cheers, Sam |
| I have a Glock 17 gen 3 with ejection issues also replaced the old 336 ejector with the 30274 which helped. Got a new extractor [after market]. Still need to test it though. Great thread. |
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I have a P80 build with Brownells slide. Stock G3 internals.
Original ejector was 336. Got brass to the face. Replaced it recently with the 30274 ejector. Finally got a good range session yesterday and got brass to the face. Im not sure where I want to go from here. Replace ejector with the G5 version or replace extractor. The price of perfection I guess. |
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My new shadow systems extractor did not fix anything. I am using the 30274 ejector. I tested today using the mag to chamber a round, remove, then fire. Using the factory extractor rounds ejected fine with cci 115grn fmj. I also tried 124grn Winchester NATO. Those ejected fine upon firing the round. None fell down the mag well so the extractor has good tension.
When leaving the magazine in through 5 rounds cycled I got casings to the face with the cci using the shadows systems extractor , the NATO rounds did ok but slide would constantly not go back into battery. I had to tap the back of the slide several times. Thinking about just trading off the gun. Not gonna keep buying parts to try and get it working. |
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| Just put the 47021 ejector in one of my Gen 3 Glock...Nice puddle at 4 o'clock...some did bounce off my RMR...but nothing in the face...With the Suarez extractor...they are landing about six feet from the pistol... |
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OP, thank you for doing and posting this. Now I have another question: what are the OEM parts numbers for the NON-LCI extractor, spring and bearing? I can't figure it out even from the Glock armorer's list. I'm willing to buy the expensive Apex extractor, but not even it comes with the proper bearing. |
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Originally Posted By Rodent:
OP, thank you for doing and posting this. Now I have another question: what are the OEM parts numbers for the NON-LCI extractor, spring and bearing? I can't figure it out even from the Glock armorer's list. I'm willing to buy the expensive Apex extractor, but not even it comes with the proper bearing. |
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Thanks. That's Glock part #SP01176.
Any idea what the Glock part # is for the non-LCI model 19 extractor that it goes with? |
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Originally Posted By Rodent: Thanks. That's Glock part #SP01176. Any idea what the Glock part # is for the non-LCI model 19 extractor that it goes with? https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/SP00098 |