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6/12/2017 1:07:22 PM EDT
I bought a glock 27 used. I find this model to have a lot of muzzle flip and recoil very similar to the glock 29. In fact I would rather have a 29 I do not have the cash to do the change . I have never considered myself to be recoil sensitive before perhaps my skill and technique has deteriorated. I'm thinking about converting it to 9mm. I see the lone wolf make barrels, I was planning on using this pistol for edc. Are these conversion reliable enough for EDC? Do I have other options besides selling the pistol?
6/12/2017 1:20:39 PM EDT
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I'm not sure how the G27 being snappy in .40 is a disappointment in Glock, or any subcompact for that matter? Why didn't you just buy a 26 in 9mm in the first place?

Anyways, I've seen people shoot 9mm with just a conversion barrel reliably, but I suppose for the highest level of reliability you can buy a 26 upper can call it a day considering the 27 and 26 are the exact same frame.
6/12/2017 2:00:34 PM EDT
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You should get the G33 barrel and crack off some .357 Sig through it then tell me the 40 is snappy.  Have you considered getting some mag pinky extensions they really help get a grip on the pistol and minimize the flip.  They make grip extension and grip\capacity extensions that will fit on the mags.  Really once you get your pinky some real-estate it will help that snappy flippyness.
6/12/2017 2:07:46 PM EDT
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You bought the smallest, lightest Glock .40 made and are surprised that it's "snappy"?
6/12/2017 2:09:55 PM EDT
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I have owned many glock pistols this is my first owned subcompact. I have fired a buddies G29, good pistol, but snappy. Honestly felt recoil in 29 and 27  is same to me. I bought the 27 used, I'm suspicious there maybe something wrong with pistol but I think it is me.  There is a drastic difference between the 23 and 27.
6/12/2017 2:11:42 PM EDT
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You bought the smallest, lightest Glock .40 made and are surprised that it's "snappy"?
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I never considered .40 S&W snappy ever in any pistol I have fired..so yeah Im very surprised.
6/12/2017 2:22:15 PM EDT
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I never considered .40 S&W snappy ever in any pistol I have fired..so yeah Im very surprised.
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Snappy is kind of a relative term..... When you say snappy does it feel like shooting a 357mag revolver that is why I consider snappy.  Or is it like a 44mag that is why I consider a higher recoiling round.  Or is it like a 500S&W I just hate shooting the cartridge.
40 in my 27 or even 357 has more felt recoil than 9mm smaller pistols I have.  I find when I do not have a pinky extension to put my hand on it makes the recoil feel "snappier".  Secondly a poor and loose grip will also make it feel snappier.  If the pistol is working it is you.
6/12/2017 2:23:08 PM EDT
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Aftermarket barrels are a good cause of reliability problems
6/12/2017 2:25:08 PM EDT
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It is my understanding the conversion barrel is any easy and reliable mod. You should also consider changing out the mag followers to 9mm followers. I would also put at least 500 rounds through the gun before I carried it. On to the 27; I have one and I shoot it better than my G22. The 40 in general is a snappy round and requires good shooting mechanics. You might just consider more time with the 40 and some mag extentions?
6/12/2017 2:25:31 PM EDT
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I'm not sure how the G27 being snappy in .40 is a disappointment in Glock, or any subcompact for that matter? Why didn't you just buy a 26 in 9mm in the first place?

Anyways, I've seen people shoot 9mm with just a conversion barrel reliably, but I suppose for the highest level of reliability you can buy a 26 upper can call it a day considering the 27 and 26 are the exact same frame.
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I got the pistol for 300 dollars, when you run across a deal you take it. I always wanted glock subcompact and clearly I have had little experience with them. Thus why Im disappointed, every glock I have fired has satisfactory, Even the G29 ( I expected it to be snappy as it should be).
6/12/2017 2:30:54 PM EDT
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I got the pistol for 300 dollars, when you run across a deal you take it. I always wanted glock subcompact and clearly I have had little experience with them. Thus why Im disappointed, every glock I have fired has satisfactory, Even the G29 ( I expected it to be snappy as it should be).
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Not really a "deal" but you need to probably just shoot it more and get accustomed to how it functions before you get on here ranting and raving about how disappointed you are.
6/12/2017 2:35:59 PM EDT
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Snappy is kind of a relative term..... When you say snappy does it feel like shooting a 357mag revolver that is why I consider snappy.  Or is it like a 44mag that is why I consider a higher recoiling round.  Or is it like a 500S&W I just hate shooting the cartridge.
40 in my 27 or even 357 has more felt recoil than 9mm smaller pistols I have.  I find when I do not have a pinky extension to put my hand on it makes the recoil feel "snappier".  Secondly a poor and loose grip will also make it feel snappier.  If the pistol is working it is you.
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Im of same mind, I have not been shooting like I use to. Once every two months is all. It has to be my grip maybe my hands are too large for subcompact? I wear xxl gloves. I have never had an issue with my grip it has always been the trigger squeeze, I guess issues can develop with lack of use.
6/12/2017 2:38:34 PM EDT
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If you do intend on a conversion barrel, replace the ejector with a 9mm ejector to lessen the chances of a malfunction.

The 27, in my opinion, recoils less than the 22.
6/12/2017 2:43:10 PM EDT
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Not really a "deal" but you need to probably just shoot it more and get accustomed to how it functions before you get on here ranting and raving about how disappointed you are.
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ranting and raving? Im just looking for advice from people that have more experience than myself.
6/12/2017 2:46:31 PM EDT
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noted. thanks
6/12/2017 2:56:38 PM EDT
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ranting and raving? Im just looking for advice from people that have more experience than myself.
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My advice is definitely shoot more.  Pinky extension for your large hands.  I have large hands myself and have trouble holding on to my G43.  I have to hold is a certain way to get my trigger into the trigger guard because of my hand size.  Same with my G27 I rarely ever shoot it because it is to small for my hands but pinky extensions for sure help otherwise I am gripping with 1 3/4 fingers.
6/12/2017 2:57:52 PM EDT
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Years back when I had a 27 I did not care for it at all. I actually found a friends 29 with full house loads easier to control! I won a glock prize certificate at a match and promptly replaced the 27 with a 26 and it is like night and day
6/12/2017 2:58:26 PM EDT
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I found the 27 pretty easy to shoot with extended mags, but not so much with the flush fit.
6/12/2017 2:59:45 PM EDT
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I bought a glock 27 used. I find this model to have a lot of muzzle flip and recoil very similar to the glock 29. In fact I would rather have a 29 I do not have the cash to do the change . I have never considered myself to be recoil sensitive before perhaps my skill and technique has deteriorated. I'm thinking about converting it to 9mm. I see the lone wolf make barrels, I was planning on using this pistol for edc. Are these conversion reliable enough for EDC? Do I have other options besides selling the pistol?
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Your problem isn't with Glock it is with your cartridge choice.  Did you expect a 27 to have 26 recoil?  

Converting a 40SW to a 9mm isn't a good idea.

Just buy a Glock 26.  The G27 isn't a popular model for a reason.  I've had at least two, and couldn't shoot them well.  If you want a 40SW (which is a great round) ... then look at HK's offerings.
6/12/2017 3:03:52 PM EDT
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Regarding Glock 10mm and Glock's 26...

I've had (3) Glock 10mms (actually owned one gun twice and a second unit).  The 10mm round didn't bother me.  The cost of ammo did (as well as the fact I couldn't conceal a G20SF).

The Glock 26 is a great handgun.  I bought my first one right after they were released, and have owned several of the years.  The one I have now is my "summer time / no maintenance" gun.  I have utter faith in the G26.  I shoot a G19 more accurately, but that is to be expected.  Your G27 experience mirrors my own.  They're difficult to shoot well with the flush mag.  I carried a G23 for years, and it was okay.  Eventually I gave up on 40SW Glocks.  If you're set on a cartridge seriously try a HK (USP Compact or P2000 or P30 or P30L).  I think you'd like the LEM V1 trigger (Lite LEM).  Reliability = 100% bombproof.  Muzzle flip = manageable.
6/12/2017 3:37:17 PM EDT
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I used to carry a glock 27, it was awful to shoot. The culprit is the .40 caliber, it's just a rjought caliber to shoot in a small pistol.
6/12/2017 3:56:09 PM EDT
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I used to carry a glock 27, it was awful to shoot. The culprit is the .40 caliber, it's just a rjought caliber to shoot in a small pistol.
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Yeah, I bought one when it first came out in the 90s and never enjoyed shooting it.  Definitely was my least favorite pistol.  Finally got rid of it a year or two ago.
6/12/2017 4:04:23 PM EDT
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I bought a glock 27 used. I find this model to have a lot of muzzle flip and recoil very similar to the glock 29. In fact I would rather have a 29 I do not have the cash to do the change . I have never considered myself to be recoil sensitive before perhaps my skill and technique has deteriorated. I'm thinking about converting it to 9mm. I see the lone wolf make barrels, I was planning on using this pistol for edc. Are these conversion reliable enough for EDC? Do I have other options besides selling the pistol?
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$300 is a pretty good deal on that 27 subcompact. I used to have one as a backup to duty pistol and you can definitely learn to handle it even without those extensions that kind of defeat the purpose of the gun. If you don't think you'll shoot .40 again, I would just sell it for a little extra $$$ and get a G26.

Conversion guns can be made to run well but you will sink some money in them to do it right and then it's not as simple as swapping a barrel to go back to .40. I don't know prices off the top of my head but you'd probably be getting close to $250 or more with all of the legit parts you need and then you still don't the gun you really want.
6/12/2017 4:05:49 PM EDT
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Shoot it more, or have the slide and barrel ported.

I had my 26L ported and its money to shoot, 40cal sucks but I do like 10mm. Just not in a 26 size.
6/12/2017 4:59:02 PM EDT
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What does your recoil sensitivity to .40 cal in a small light weight pistol have anything to do with Glock? You are disappointed in .40 cal, NOT Glock. The experience you had with the 27 would be the same snappy experience you would have with .40 out of any similary sized pistol in that caliber.

I hear you, I don't like .40 at all, that's why I moved away from it about 12 years ago and went back to 9mm. Exactly like all the current LEO agencies have been doing the last 5 years.

No need to bash Glock.
6/12/2017 5:16:51 PM EDT
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If you do intend on a conversion barrel, replace the ejector with a 9mm ejector to lessen the chances of a malfunction.

The 27, in my opinion, recoils less than the 22.
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The G22 and G27 recoil the same to me. Love 'em both.

6/12/2017 7:41:45 PM EDT
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I think .40 is snappy in my G35 Limited gun with a full length steel guide rod and brass mag well.

Need to get a frame weight on there too.

.40 sucks.
6/12/2017 8:13:20 PM EDT
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My Glocks did not get this memo. My 22's both run 100% with an S3F solutions conversion barrel.

I find my .40's much more pleasant to shoot with reloads loaded to minor factor using SNS coated bullets.
6/12/2017 8:52:29 PM EDT
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What grain ammo were you shooting? 155 and 165 will be snappier than 180gr
6/12/2017 11:10:16 PM EDT
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My Glocks did not get this memo. My 22's both run 100% with an S3F solutions conversion barrel.

I find my .40's much more pleasant to shoot with reloads loaded to minor factor using SNS coated bullets.
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Lone wolf conversion barrel in my 22 and it is reliable and shoots just as well as my other's.
6/13/2017 3:13:02 AM EDT
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Im of same mind, I have not been shooting like I use to. Once every two months is all. It has to be my grip maybe my hands are too large for subcompact? I wear xxl gloves. I have never had an issue with my grip it has always been the trigger squeeze, I guess issues can develop with lack of use.
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I had a 27 about 15 years ago, sold it to a friend.  I recall the pistol being a little more snappy than my 26, but I run grip extensions on all of my Glock sub compacts.  

I know the 27 is a real compact powerhouse, a lot of rounds of 40 caliber in a small package.  I no longer own any .40 Glocks, but am considering purchasing another 27.  

The best group I have ever shot was with my 27.  I suggest you shoot it more, get used to it.  For $300, if it is good condition, a very good deal.

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6/13/2017 9:19:15 AM EDT
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.40 sucks.
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6/13/2017 9:42:11 AM EDT
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Out of the 7 40cal Glocks I've seen personally with 9mm conversion barrels and mags. They all worked 100%.

If you want to use both 40 and 9 I say get a conversion barrel and mags. If you are done with 40 sell the 27 and buy a 26.
6/13/2017 10:11:44 AM EDT
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Out of the 7 40cal Glocks I've seen personally with 9mm conversion barrels and mags. They all worked 100%.

If you want to use both 40 and 9 I say get a conversion barrel and mags. If you are done with 40 sell the 27 and buy a 26.
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Yeah, that was my mindset when I considered getting a conversion barrel.  I was done with the G27.  When I looked at the cost of the conversion barrel, the cost of a new G26, and what I could sell the G27 for, it didn't make sense to buy the barrel, so I sold the G27 on the EE.

And then I didn't buy the G26, but that's a different story.
6/13/2017 11:16:25 AM EDT
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.40 sucks.
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I have to disagree..... I carry and own predominately 9mm handguns and shoot almost only 9mm or 45.  But 40 does not do anything better or worse than 9mm ballistically speaking.  Yes it has slightly more recoil but we are not talking about 38spc vs 44mag difference here.  40 is not a magnum round and the recoil is not that bad.
6/13/2017 2:01:45 PM EDT
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A .40S&W with a 2 finger grip and short ass barrel is hard recoiling?

This rocks my proverbial world. 
6/13/2017 2:19:02 PM EDT
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Who in their right mind acquires a short barreled pistol chambered in a high-pressure pistol cartridge such as the .40S&W and does NOT expect a sharper more pronounced perception of recoil?

I guess the same type person who ill-titles a thread...

OP... trade you for this...

6/13/2017 3:50:25 PM EDT
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Who in their right mind acquires a short barreled pistol chambered in a high-pressure pistol cartridge such as the .40S&W and does NOT expect a sharper more pronounced perception of recoil?

I guess the same type person who ill-titles a thread...

OP... trade you for this...

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I have one of those on my night stand and one on my desk at work.
6/13/2017 7:51:45 PM EDT
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Last month the huge LGS in my town was blowing out NIB G27's for $250.00 . Yes NIB 27's for 250 bucks . I asked the sales manager about it and he said they had a lot of them and they had been in inventory for years and not selling . He said only when the price was $250.00 would any of them sell .
6/13/2017 8:04:12 PM EDT
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I've had a G27 for nearly twenty years, and just recently discovered that those (ugly as hell) Hogue grip sleeves do indeed work.

You ought to give it a try, OP.
6/13/2017 8:48:25 PM EDT
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Lol, Pinkmist you should change the thread title.  Seems to be drawing the wrong sort of attention.  

Good luck, spend some money on ammo and get to shooting!
6/14/2017 8:16:59 PM EDT
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The G22 and G27 recoil the same to me. Love 'em both.

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Same here.  
6/16/2017 9:54:41 AM EDT
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If you don't want snappy, stick with 9mm (or 380 in the single stack compact guns). 40 S&W is snappy. 9mm +p is snappy. 40 S&W shot out of a stock 10mm gun is snappy. Learn to love the snap, or switch to 9mm. 
6/16/2017 3:47:09 PM EDT
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What grain ammo were you shooting? 155 and 165 will be snappier than 180gr
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165GR
6/16/2017 3:50:23 PM EDT
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Thanks all for the advice. Im going try some grip tape, work on my pistol grip, and get pinky extension for the mag. If I cannot get to like the pistol I will sale it.
6/16/2017 4:29:34 PM EDT
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You bought the smallest, lightest Glock .40 made and are surprised that it's "snappy"?
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This.

OP, just trade it for a G26.
6/16/2017 7:50:57 PM EDT
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Have you tried replacing the recoil spring/RCA? If it's used, any idea how many rounds on it?

180 gr. ammo is also a good option.

I'd also try either some Talon grips, or a mag grip extension, or both.
6/20/2017 1:57:56 AM EDT
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I switched mine to 9mm. I didn't mind the snap but I didn't shoot it as much so I figured if other people are going to use it at the range it's easier as a 9.
6/20/2017 10:10:20 AM EDT
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I've owned a handful of G27's and they were some of the best shooting Glocks I've owned.  Yes they're a bit "snappy" but what did you really expect from the smallest Glock .40?  I never found them hard to shoot, let alone to the point of anything deteriorating, as I said the ones I had were very accurate little guns.  One time I did trade a G27 in for a G26 and didn't like it at all.  So like others have said, maybe you're disappointed in the .40 and not so much Glock. 
6/20/2017 10:14:35 AM EDT
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I just shot a 27 a customer was trading in for around $200 ish, kept it at 1.5" group at 7 yards for a 5 shot group. For someone that doesn't shoot 40 I say not bad. You probably need to change your grip and practice more.
6/20/2017 10:19:53 AM EDT
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I've owned a few G27s. I actually found them to be pretty fun to shoot. I've shot the G26 and really didn't find that much of a difference.