Posted: 4/14/2017 12:15:31 AM EDT
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Playing around with my internals and I noticed that when I combine the Zev V4 Race Connector with the Agency drop in trigger, it will not work properly. To be specific, when I depress the trigger fully to the rear, after the point where it should normally break, it breaks after a delay and if I apply a lot of force. Basically holding my trigger back as far as it goes firmly, then it just breaks..
Does anyone have any clue as to why? I've even tried using a competition trigger spring (the S shaped one that attaches to the cruciform) and nothing. It currently works with the supplied "-" Connector, as well as various new "-" connectors in my spare parts kit. For anyone unfamiliar with the Agency trigger it's just a flat face trigger with less take up and an OEM Gen 3 bar with polished friction points. Tia (Glock Certified Armorer) |
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First off, are you saying your a Glock Certified Armorer? Would think that would have helped you out.
I too tried a Zev connector with an Agency trigger. Would not work, just as you described. Others I know use them and say they are great. There is a lot of variance between Glock frames. You can have two identical frames and put the same triggers in both and they will not feel the same. Tolerance stacking has a lot to do with this. Also just an FYI, the trigger bar that Agency uses has been changed a lot. Yes it started out as a factory gen 3 trigger bar, but then the angle of the cruciform was changed to work with the geometry of the pivot that the Agency trigger uses. Simply put, you could not swap your Agency trigger bar with a standard trigger bar and it work. If you will contact Agency, they can make your gun work with the Zev connector. You will just need to send them your frame. What I have found works great with an Agency trigger is a TTI Grandmaster kit. I tried just replacing my minus connector with the TTI connector first because a buddy asked me to try it. It was a little better but nothing earth shattering. After that I put in the full kit. It includes the trigger spring, striker spring, firing pin block spring, stainless steel trigger housing pin, and of course the connector. The trigger is now unbelievable. It's considerably lighter, predictable wall with a crisp break, still has a short crisp strong reset, and no overtravel. I bought the Zev kit that included the connector, trigger spring, firing pin block spring, and striker spring. Ended up throwing all the springs away except the firing pin block spring and I gave the connector away. |
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First off, are you saying your a Glock Certified Armorer? Would think that would have helped you out. I too tried a Zev connector with an Agency trigger. Would not work, just as you described. Others I know use them and say they are great. There is a lot of variance between Glock frames. You can have two identical frames and put the same triggers in both and they will not feel the same. Tolerance stacking has a lot to do with this. Also just an FYI, the trigger bar that Agency uses has been changed a lot. Yes it started out as a factory gen 3 trigger bar, but then the angle of the cruciform was changed to work with the geometry of the pivot that the Agency trigger uses. Simply put, you could not swap your Agency trigger bar with a standard trigger bar and it work. If you will contact Agency, they can make your gun work with the Zev connector. You will just need to send them your frame. What I have found works great with an Agency trigger is a TTI Grandmaster kit. I tried just replacing my minus connector with the TTI connector first because a buddy asked me to try it. It was a little better but nothing earth shattering. After that I put in the full kit. It includes the trigger spring, striker spring, firing pin block spring, stainless steel trigger housing pin, and of course the connector. The trigger is now unbelievable. It's considerably lighter, predictable wall with a crisp break, still has a short crisp strong reset, and no overtravel. I bought the Zev kit that included the connector, trigger spring, firing pin block spring, and striker spring. Ended up throwing all the springs away except the firing pin block spring and I gave the connector away. |
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It doesn't help at all, because why I have some clue as to why it may not be working, the input and answers I'm seeking are from other people's experiences. Something you can't learn from Glock. Plus, if you've ever taken the Glock Armorer class, they flat out tell you to keep everything in your gun OEM and they do not condone any aftermarket parts or frame modifications (stippling, reductions, etc). |
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Thank you. Always wondered about that. Have been tempted to take the course, glad now I didn't. 
They are not there to teach you how to turn your Glock into a race gun. They are there to teach you how to maintain, work on, and fix Glocks. It has a lot of valuable info about Glocks. |
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They are not there to teach you how to turn your Glock into a race gun. They are there to teach you how to maintain, work on, and fix Glocks. It has a lot of valuable info about Glocks. Doesn't exactly take a genius to figure one out. |
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I would think for the cost you would get quite a bit considering there isn't much going on in a Glock to begin with. Doesn't exactly take a genius to figure one out. |
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This shouldn't be hard to understand.
Study the parts and how they work together. The answer is there. The trigger bar has to move rearward far enough that the connector ramp will pull it off the striker. If you want this trigger and connector combo to work together I suspect you'll need to identify what is limiting rearward movement of the trigger bar. I don't know Agency triggers so I can't tell you. Armorer solution: swap out parts for those of a compatible combination (steeper connector or trigger with more travel) Gunsmith solution: Identify what method of overtravel-stop is arresting the trigger bar and give it another 1/32" of travel so the connector ramp can pull it down a hair more. |
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So obviously you have never taken the course I can understand that just buy reading your comment. If you are such a Glock genius why do you care? Lot more to being a Glock Armorer it is like any certification it says you know what you are talking about rather than just some guy on the internet. Also allows you to do warranty work for people or yourself without having to ship your Glock to GA. Please tell me you are honestly not this dense? Not trying to ruffle your feathers. Just think it's a little expensive for recreational use if the basis for it is to keep everything factory. Understandable if you run a business in which you being able to perform warranty work may be needed. |