Posted: 11/7/2015 8:41:18 PM EDT
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I have no affiliation, just stumbled across this.
Spectre 80% Glock Frame Not much detail. Intriguing. Discuss 
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I built one of their polymer AR lowers just to see what it was like.
"Machining" was fairly easy - polymer cut easy, but length between pivot pin and takedown pin was out of spec - too long by about 1/32 inch. I can hammer on an upper (and I tried 5 - all were the same) and call it a draw, but I wouldn't expect too much from it. Kind of fun to monkey around with but I don't consider it a serious lower. I built it up as a pistol lower although I have no pistol uppers - just to say I have a pistol lower should the need arise. As a result, I wouldn't put too much faith in the all plastic pistol frame. |
| Glocks aren't that expensive where it makes financial sense to do this. Heck, Classic has Gen 2 Glock 22s for $279, Summit Gun Broker had rice Gen 3 Glock 22s with plastic case, night sights and three mags for $300 last week. I get that it's fun to do it yourself, but as cheap as Glocks are I'll continue to purchase them already made. Other people may get a lot of enjoyment out of this do-it-yourself project and it may make perfect sense for them to do it. I'm not one of those people. |
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Glocks aren't that expensive where it makes financial sense to do this. Heck, Classic has Gen 2 Glock 22s for $279, Summit Gun Broker had rice Gen 3 Glock 22s with plastic case, night sights and three mags for $300 last week. I get that it's fun to do it yourself, but as cheap as Glocks are I'll continue to purchase them already made. Other people may get a lot of enjoyment out of this do-it-yourself project and it may make perfect sense for them to do it. I'm not one of those people. For most people... I agree it doesn't make financial sense But I can think of two other reasons why people may like to do there own Glock frame -Never any record the gun exists -Under 21 so cant buy from FFL but can legal manufacture for personal use ETA: Also this frame has a 1911 grip angle which I find very cool |
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For most people... I agree it doesn't make financial sense But I can think of two other reasons why people may like to do there own Glock frame -Never any record the gun exists -Under 21 so cant buy from FFL but can legal manufacture for personal use ETA: Also this frame has a 1911 grip angle which I find very cool Quoted:
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Glocks aren't that expensive where it makes financial sense to do this. Heck, Classic has Gen 2 Glock 22s for $279, Summit Gun Broker had rice Gen 3 Glock 22s with plastic case, night sights and three mags for $300 last week. I get that it's fun to do it yourself, but as cheap as Glocks are I'll continue to purchase them already made. Other people may get a lot of enjoyment out of this do-it-yourself project and it may make perfect sense for them to do it. I'm not one of those people. For most people... I agree it doesn't make financial sense But I can think of two other reasons why people may like to do there own Glock frame -Never any record the gun exists -Under 21 so cant buy from FFL but can legal manufacture for personal use ETA: Also this frame has a 1911 grip angle which I find very cool Reason #3 carbine conversion upper |
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But I can think of two other reasons why people may like to do there own Glock frame -Never any record the gun exists -Under 21 so cant buy from FFL but can legal manufacture for personal use ETA: Also this frame has a 1911 grip angle which I find very cool 1) Unless you manage to buy it in person for cash, then there's a credit card record and the vendor has your name. Buying a gun in a private sale for cash would seem to me to have less (or at a minimum, the same) record. 2) Are there any states where under-21 possession of a handgun is legal, but private sales are illegal? It wouldn't make sense to me if there were, because someone under 21 who possessed a handgun would be defacto admitting they were involved in a private transfer (unless they moved from out of state, having previously purchased the handgun there, I guess). 3) Where does it say it has a 1911 grip angle? The grip angle is limited by the angle of the magazine, so I don't see how they could change it much. |
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1) Unless you manage to buy it in person for cash, then there's a credit card record and the vendor has your name. Buying a gun in a private sale for cash would seem to me to have less (or at a minimum, the same) record. The guns never been on a 4473 2) Are there any states where under-21 possession of a handgun is legal, but private sales are illegal? It wouldn't make sense to me if there were, because someone under 21 who possessed a handgun would be defacto admitting they were involved in a private transfer (unless they moved from out of state, having previously purchased the handgun there, I guess). Good luck getting a gun through private sale at 18, 19, 20 3) Where does it say it has a 1911 grip angle? The grip angle is limited by the angle of the magazine, so I don't see how they could change it much. "Unlike the Glock, this frame includes a uniquely extended beaver-tail, and most notably a super tactical 1911 pistol grip rather than the standard glock styled pistol grip. Even better, this pistol grip includes a built in flared magwell for speed loading." Quoted:
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But I can think of two other reasons why people may like to do there own Glock frame -Never any record the gun exists -Under 21 so cant buy from FFL but can legal manufacture for personal use ETA: Also this frame has a 1911 grip angle which I find very cool 1) Unless you manage to buy it in person for cash, then there's a credit card record and the vendor has your name. Buying a gun in a private sale for cash would seem to me to have less (or at a minimum, the same) record. The guns never been on a 4473 2) Are there any states where under-21 possession of a handgun is legal, but private sales are illegal? It wouldn't make sense to me if there were, because someone under 21 who possessed a handgun would be defacto admitting they were involved in a private transfer (unless they moved from out of state, having previously purchased the handgun there, I guess). Good luck getting a gun through private sale at 18, 19, 20 3) Where does it say it has a 1911 grip angle? The grip angle is limited by the angle of the magazine, so I don't see how they could change it much. "Unlike the Glock, this frame includes a uniquely extended beaver-tail, and most notably a super tactical 1911 pistol grip rather than the standard glock styled pistol grip. Even better, this pistol grip includes a built in flared magwell for speed loading." |
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But I can think of two other reasons why people may like to do there own Glock frame -Never any record the gun exists -Under 21 so cant buy from FFL but can legal manufacture for personal use ETA: Also this frame has a 1911 grip angle which I find very cool 1) Unless you manage to buy it in person for cash, then there's a credit card record and the vendor has your name. Buying a gun in a private sale for cash would seem to me to have less (or at a minimum, the same) record. The guns never been on a 4473 2) Are there any states where under-21 possession of a handgun is legal, but private sales are illegal? It wouldn't make sense to me if there were, because someone under 21 who possessed a handgun would be defacto admitting they were involved in a private transfer (unless they moved from out of state, having previously purchased the handgun there, I guess). Good luck getting a gun through private sale at 18, 19, 20 3) Where does it say it has a 1911 grip angle? The grip angle is limited by the angle of the magazine, so I don't see how they could change it much. "Unlike the Glock, this frame includes a uniquely extended beaver-tail, and most notably a super tactical 1911 pistol grip rather than the standard glock styled pistol grip. Even better, this pistol grip includes a built in flared magwell for speed loading." Why would the tinfoil crowd care whether a gun has ever been on a 4473 or not? If the UN blue helmets come to take our guns or whatever, then the key would be not having a gun papered under your name. Whether it's under a former owner's name wouldn't matter. Under 21 private sales are no big deal here in Texas, sorry Florida sucks I guess? |
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Why would the tinfoil crowd care whether a gun has ever been on a 4473 or not? If the UN blue helmets come to take our guns or whatever, then the key would be not having a gun papered under your name. Whether it's under a former owner's name wouldn't matter. Under 21 private sales are no big deal here in Texas, sorry Florida sucks I guess? Quoted:
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But I can think of two other reasons why people may like to do there own Glock frame -Never any record the gun exists -Under 21 so cant buy from FFL but can legal manufacture for personal use ETA: Also this frame has a 1911 grip angle which I find very cool 1) Unless you manage to buy it in person for cash, then there's a credit card record and the vendor has your name. Buying a gun in a private sale for cash would seem to me to have less (or at a minimum, the same) record. The guns never been on a 4473 2) Are there any states where under-21 possession of a handgun is legal, but private sales are illegal? It wouldn't make sense to me if there were, because someone under 21 who possessed a handgun would be defacto admitting they were involved in a private transfer (unless they moved from out of state, having previously purchased the handgun there, I guess). Good luck getting a gun through private sale at 18, 19, 20 3) Where does it say it has a 1911 grip angle? The grip angle is limited by the angle of the magazine, so I don't see how they could change it much. "Unlike the Glock, this frame includes a uniquely extended beaver-tail, and most notably a super tactical 1911 pistol grip rather than the standard glock styled pistol grip. Even better, this pistol grip includes a built in flared magwell for speed loading." Why would the tinfoil crowd care whether a gun has ever been on a 4473 or not? If the UN blue helmets come to take our guns or whatever, then the key would be not having a gun papered under your name. Whether it's under a former owner's name wouldn't matter. Under 21 private sales are no big deal here in Texas, sorry Florida sucks I guess? I get what you are saying but for some reason some people just like that it's never been on a 4473 And yeah private sales in Miami suck, most People think you need a CWP just to purchase a gun Also if there are metal rails under the polymer and you have to mill out the polymer to get to the metal rails I would buy If they are just poly rails I don't see that working |
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80% frames are easier in MD for one. No 77r, no stupid expensive transfers, no 8 day wait. And no HQL either. But even given all that, IMHO it still makes more sense to buy a complete Glock unless you enjoy the do it yourself aspect or really don't want anyone to know you have this pistol. New/used Glocks are an amazing value at their price point, you're not saving much (any?) money doing it yourself. ETA: I was on an 80% lower kick for awhile but I'd have been better off to put the money I spent on an Easy Jig and router into buying complete lowers. |
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Also if there are metal rails under the polymer and you have to mill out the polymer to get to the metal rails I would buy If they are just poly rails I don't see that working Why? CZ's P series guns use only polymer frame rails, and there's plenty of them in the tens of thousands of rounds still going just fine and have many thousands more ahead of em. |
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Why? CZ's P series guns use only polymer frame rails, and there's plenty of them in the tens of thousands of rounds still going just fine and have many thousands more ahead of em. Quoted:
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Also if there are metal rails under the polymer and you have to mill out the polymer to get to the metal rails I would buy If they are just poly rails I don't see that working Why? CZ's P series guns use only polymer frame rails, and there's plenty of them in the tens of thousands of rounds still going just fine and have many thousands more ahead of em. Are the frame rails on the CZ only 1/16" thick? |
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Also if there are metal rails under the polymer and you have to mill out the polymer to get to the metal rails I would buy If they are just poly rails I don't see that working Why? CZ's P series guns use only polymer frame rails, and there's plenty of them in the tens of thousands of rounds still going just fine and have many thousands more ahead of em. Are the frame rails on the CZ only 1/16" thick? No. And unless my P07 was special, the rails are not polymer either. Maybe he was thinking Ruger P95? They have no steel for the frame rails, but the they are thick; near or over 1/8" thick. |
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Since there's no serial number, this could be the answer to a cut down 19 w/ a 26 slide, in order to get a rail. Locking blocks are different. Put a 26 or 19 barrel in a 17 and you'll lock the gun up. If they did make a locking block that was compatible with the shorter barrels you'd still have the issue of the dust cover needing to be filled in to eliminate the gap you'd have when you cut it down. If you want a 26 with a 19 grip just epoxy a grip extender to a 26. |
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Locking blocks are different. Put a 26 or 19 barrel in a 17 and you'll lock the gun up. If they did make a locking block that was compatible with the shorter barrels you'd still have the issue of the dust cover needing to be filled in to eliminate the gap you'd have when you cut it down. If you want a 26 with a 19 grip just epoxy a grip extender to a 26. Quoted:
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Since there's no serial number, this could be the answer to a cut down 19 w/ a 26 slide, in order to get a rail. Locking blocks are different. Put a 26 or 19 barrel in a 17 and you'll lock the gun up. If they did make a locking block that was compatible with the shorter barrels you'd still have the issue of the dust cover needing to be filled in to eliminate the gap you'd have when you cut it down. If you want a 26 with a 19 grip just epoxy a grip extender to a 26. Nope, want a 26 w/ rails. 
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