Posted: 9/19/2015 10:31:25 AM EDT
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I posted this yesterday an another forum. So far, I haven't gotten a response, so I figured Id try here.
"A few weeks ago I picked up a "BWxxx" G19. I replaced the trigger bar with a standard smooth trigger bar. It wasn't until later that I realized this was a bad idea being so early in production. Today at the range I had several failures to reset the trigger. It only happened when the slide was released with the slide stop lever. Very weird. So my question is what is the issue with the trigger bar? Would a new firing pin safety button and/or firing pin allow the use with the new, smooth trigger bar? On a side note, I replaced the trigger housing and trigger spring as soon as I got it. All of the original black internals were present when I bought it." So, I have a new trigger housing with ejector, new connector, and trigger bar with trigger spring. The original firing pin, firing pin safety with spring, and extractor with plunger assembly are still in the pistol. Im assuming the failure to reset is from the new trigger bar. Im either forgetting what I learned several years ago, or I never knew in the first place, but what exactly is causing this issue? Im also assuming that the fix is to put in the proper trigger bar as well. Oh, and ALL parts are factory Glock. Nothing aftermarket is in the gun. Thanks! |
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Boy, lots of variables going on.
I am in a similar situation, as I have an older "black internals" G17. I had a buddy (Glock armorer) contact glock and get the "6 upgraded parts" from the factory. I would start there. I have read that people have issues mixing and matching the old black internals with newer parts. It sounds like you have replaced a fair amount of them, so if I were you, I'd just finish by replacing the remaining black internals. Here's a link to the parts that need replaced: http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/upgrade-faq.html |
| Detail strip the pistol again .... Ensure your trigger reset spring is installed correctly and that it is installed into the groove of the trigger bar, check that the trigger bar is installed with the connector properly, or just detail strip and reassemble as you might have just installed something wrong. Can you post pics of the ejector housing with the trigger bar/connector and reset spring visible. |
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Detail strip the pistol again .... Ensure your trigger reset spring is installed correctly and that it is installed into the groove of the trigger bar, check that the trigger bar is installed with the connector properly, or just detail strip and reassemble as you might have just installed something wrong. Can you post pics of the ejector housing with the trigger bar/connector and reset spring visible. Assuming it has such groove, which is a relatively recent change. I'll say it's the connector. Because the only time I've ever had trigger reset problems it was the connector inspite of the "experts" telling me it had to be the trigger spring. |
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Assuming it has such groove, which is a relatively recent change. I'll say it's the connector. Because the only time I've ever had trigger reset problems it was the connector inspite of the "experts" telling me it had to be the trigger spring. Quoted:
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Detail strip the pistol again .... Ensure your trigger reset spring is installed correctly and that it is installed into the groove of the trigger bar, check that the trigger bar is installed with the connector properly, or just detail strip and reassemble as you might have just installed something wrong. Can you post pics of the ejector housing with the trigger bar/connector and reset spring visible. Assuming it has such groove, which is a relatively recent change. I'll say it's the connector. Because the only time I've ever had trigger reset problems it was the connector inspite of the "experts" telling me it had to be the trigger spring. I agree but neither of us have seen it which is why I listed multiple possible issues. Pics would be very helpful in this situation for diagnosing as all the experts in the world could not diagnosis this issue without more info. I think best course of action is for OP to detail strip and reassemble being sure everything goes together correctly. |
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The gun is assembled correctly. I'm a certified armorer, as well as the other officer who looked at it. Glock has a separate trigger bar for pre EH serial G19's. There is a + on the cruciform of this specific trigger bar. Part of my questions revolve around the need for this trigger bar. I'm thinking there isn't the minimum 2/3 engagement between the firing pin and the trigger bar. Somewhere along the way I've lost my inspection cover, so it's hard to check for this.
Thanks for the help. I'll throw the original trigger bar back in and see what happens. |