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8/18/2015 4:08:26 PM EDT
I see a lot of glock parts on the market and I am curious to know some of the benefits/drawbacks of some of them.

Lightweight striker, why?
Changing striker springs? why?
Guide rods, Which are better? Stainless, tungsten? Why?
Recoil springs? What spring to use? with what guide rod?

I have seen a few threads on replacing the extractor and ejectors so thats self explanatory. Then the trigger mods, and other likewise parts are self explanatory. But why mod some of the other stuff? Why get a lightweight striker and change the spring? Are there modded springs for the Extractor plunger? Why would they need different?

There seems to be some mystery behind why these mods are done (at least to me). Companies like Salient, Zev and etc change the strikers, and this and that but why?
8/18/2015 4:28:58 PM EDT
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I see a lot of glock parts on the market and I am curious to know some of the benefits/drawbacks of some of them.

Lightweight striker, why?  faster striker less time between trigger release and primer strike also lightens trigger slightly
Changing striker springs? why? lighter trigger pull for competition guns
Guide rods, Which are better? Stainless, tungsten? Why? In my comp gun I use SS rod because I can change spring weight
Recoil springs? What spring to use? with what guide rod? depends on your load

I have seen a few threads on replacing the extractor and ejectors so thats self explanatory. Then the trigger mods, and other likewise parts are self explanatory. But why mod some of the other stuff? Why get a lightweight striker and change the spring? Are there modded springs for the Extractor plunger? Why would they need different?

There seems to be some mystery behind why these mods are done (at least to me). Companies like Salient, Zev and etc change the strikers, and this and that but why?
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The Glock is a pretty cool tinker toy because you can easily change spring weights and make the trigger do vastly different things.  You can make the trigger feel like a heavy DA revolver, you can make the trigger lighter and lighter depending on the springs you change, and sky is really the limit on the different setups you can do with the Glock pistol.
8/18/2015 4:36:22 PM EDT
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The Glock is a pretty cool tinker toy because you can easily change spring weights and make the trigger do vastly different things.  You can make the trigger feel like a heavy DA revolver, you can make the trigger lighter and lighter depending on the springs you change, and sky is really the limit on the different setups you can do with the Glock pistol.
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I see a lot of glock parts on the market and I am curious to know some of the benefits/drawbacks of some of them.

Lightweight striker, why?  faster striker less time between trigger release and primer strike also lightens trigger slightly
Changing striker springs? why? lighter trigger pull for competition guns
Guide rods, Which are better? Stainless, tungsten? Why? In my comp gun I use SS rod because I can change spring weight
Recoil springs? What spring to use? with what guide rod? depends on your load

I have seen a few threads on replacing the extractor and ejectors so thats self explanatory. Then the trigger mods, and other likewise parts are self explanatory. But why mod some of the other stuff? Why get a lightweight striker and change the spring? Are there modded springs for the Extractor plunger? Why would they need different?

There seems to be some mystery behind why these mods are done (at least to me). Companies like Salient, Zev and etc change the strikers, and this and that but why?


The Glock is a pretty cool tinker toy because you can easily change spring weights and make the trigger do vastly different things.  You can make the trigger feel like a heavy DA revolver, you can make the trigger lighter and lighter depending on the springs you change, and sky is really the limit on the different setups you can do with the Glock pistol.


Thanks for the input. I dont think I will change those parts on this gun, but might in the future when i build a 17. I may do a little to this one. Cuts in the slide, barrel, I have already done the trigger mods except the trigger shoe and bar I want, stippling and frame mods. But its mostly a carry gun, so nothing too crazy.
8/18/2015 4:43:01 PM EDT
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My carry the mods I did were as follow.
G19.4
"-" connector
heavy trigger reset spring
lighter safety plunger spring
G17 smooth trigger

Nothing to fancy but smooth consistent break and reset not heavy but not to light.
8/18/2015 5:43:50 PM EDT
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I leave mine 100% stock and I haven't had any failures with a whole lot of Glocks so I think I'll stay that way.    In the past I've purchased some used Glocks with mods and to me the changes aren't an improvement.....yes triggers get lighter but then the reset gets mushy.....the recoil pulse can have mild changes but nothing you'd notice if you didn't know the spring was changed.   I buy Glocks because they are caveman simple and function out of the box....the only changes I make are sights and grips if needed.  I do prefer night sights over the factory sights....I don't care for the big white U rear sight and find it a bit distraction....it makes it more difficult to concentrate only on the front sight but otherwise I don't think there is that much improvement to be had.



If you want a crisp and light trigger grab a 1911
8/18/2015 5:55:08 PM EDT
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I leave mine 100% stock and I haven't had any failures with a whole lot of Glocks so I think I'll stay that way.    In the past I've purchased some used Glocks with mods and to me the changes aren't an improvement.....yes triggers get lighter but then the reset gets mushy.....the recoil pulse can have mild changes but nothing you'd notice if you didn't know the spring was changed.   I buy Glocks because they are caveman simple and function out of the box....the only changes I make are sights and grips if needed.  I do prefer night sights over the factory sights....I don't care for the big white U rear sight and find it a bit distraction....it makes it more difficult to concentrate only on the front sight but otherwise I don't think there is that much improvement to be had.



If you want a crisp and light trigger grab a 1911
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Dad has one. While i like it for the history, I like my triggers to have some give before the break. 1911s are cool and all but not my cup of tea.
8/18/2015 9:03:01 PM EDT
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http://www.midwayusa.com/product/611080/zev-technologies-competition-trigger-spring-glock-all-models?cm_vc=ProductFinding

Thank me later......


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I leave mine 100% stock and I haven't had any failures with a whole lot of Glocks so I think I'll stay that way.    In the past I've purchased some used Glocks with mods and to me the changes aren't an improvement.....yes triggers get lighter but then the reset gets mushy.....the recoil pulse can have mild changes but nothing you'd notice if you didn't know the spring was changed.   I buy Glocks because they are caveman simple and function out of the box....the only changes I make are sights and grips if needed.  I do prefer night sights over the factory sights....I don't care for the big white U rear sight and find it a bit distraction....it makes it more difficult to concentrate only on the front sight but otherwise I don't think there is that much improvement to be had.



If you want a crisp and light trigger grab a 1911
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8/18/2015 9:24:15 PM EDT
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Polish your trigger bar and connector. Makes a big difference
8/18/2015 11:32:41 PM EDT
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Just shooting the Hell out of it does the same thing.
8/18/2015 11:58:46 PM EDT
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Trigger bar polish, pollished striker plunger and unpolished the part where the cross touches the striker. Made a huge diffwewnce I also have a competition trigger spring and a 4.5# connector. I really like it. Just need a new trigger shoe and i am looking at a lwd ultimate trigger stop.
8/19/2015 9:17:16 AM EDT
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The Glock is a pretty cool tinker toy because you can easily change spring weights and make the trigger do vastly different things.  You can make the trigger feel like a heavy DA revolver, you can make the trigger lighter and lighter depending on the springs you change, and sky is really the limit on the different setups you can do with the Glock pistol.
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I see a lot of glock parts on the market and I am curious to know some of the benefits/drawbacks of some of them.

Lightweight striker, why?  faster striker less time between trigger release and primer strike also lightens trigger slightly
Changing striker springs? why? lighter trigger pull for competition guns
Guide rods, Which are better? Stainless, tungsten? Why? In my comp gun I use SS rod because I can change spring weight
Recoil springs? What spring to use? with what guide rod? depends on your load

I have seen a few threads on replacing the extractor and ejectors so thats self explanatory. Then the trigger mods, and other likewise parts are self explanatory. But why mod some of the other stuff? Why get a lightweight striker and change the spring? Are there modded springs for the Extractor plunger? Why would they need different?

There seems to be some mystery behind why these mods are done (at least to me). Companies like Salient, Zev and etc change the strikers, and this and that but why?


The Glock is a pretty cool tinker toy because you can easily change spring weights and make the trigger do vastly different things.  You can make the trigger feel like a heavy DA revolver, you can make the trigger lighter and lighter depending on the springs you change, and sky is really the limit on the different setups you can do with the Glock pistol.

Pretty much spot on, but the lightened strikers are generally designed to ensure reliable ignition with lighter striker springs (for a lighter trigger pull).  I haven't seen any evidence that they are any "faster".  The "hang time" of the striker is so incredibly short already that I don't see how it could possibly make a real difference if it was 0.001 sec faster.
8/19/2015 9:44:01 AM EDT
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Pretty much spot on, but the lightened strikers are generally designed to ensure reliable ignition with lighter striker springs (for a lighter trigger pull).  I haven't seen any evidence that they are any "faster".  The "hang time" of the striker is so incredibly short already that I don't see how it could possibly make a real difference if it was 0.001 sec faster.
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I see a lot of glock parts on the market and I am curious to know some of the benefits/drawbacks of some of them.



Lightweight striker, why?  faster striker less time between trigger release and primer strike also lightens trigger slightly

Changing striker springs? why? lighter trigger pull for competition guns

Guide rods, Which are better? Stainless, tungsten? Why? In my comp gun I use SS rod because I can change spring weight

Recoil springs? What spring to use? with what guide rod? depends on your load



I have seen a few threads on replacing the extractor and ejectors so thats self explanatory. Then the trigger mods, and other likewise parts are self explanatory. But why mod some of the other stuff? Why get a lightweight striker and change the spring? Are there modded springs for the Extractor plunger? Why would they need different?



There seems to be some mystery behind why these mods are done (at least to me). Companies like Salient, Zev and etc change the strikers, and this and that but why?




The Glock is a pretty cool tinker toy because you can easily change spring weights and make the trigger do vastly different things.  You can make the trigger feel like a heavy DA revolver, you can make the trigger lighter and lighter depending on the springs you change, and sky is really the limit on the different setups you can do with the Glock pistol.


Pretty much spot on, but the lightened strikers are generally designed to ensure reliable ignition with lighter striker springs (for a lighter trigger pull).  I haven't seen any evidence that they are any "faster".  The "hang time" of the striker is so incredibly short already that I don't see how it could possibly make a real difference if it was 0.001 sec faster.




 
Correct, the only purpose of a lightweight striker is the ability to run lighter striker springs without sacrificing reliable ignition.  The hang time thing is gun rag advertising garbage.
8/19/2015 9:56:43 AM EDT
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  Correct, the only purpose of a lightweight striker is the ability to run lighter striker springs without sacrificing reliable ignition.  The hang time thing is gun rag advertising garbage.
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I see a lot of glock parts on the market and I am curious to know some of the benefits/drawbacks of some of them.

Lightweight striker, why?  faster striker less time between trigger release and primer strike also lightens trigger slightly
Changing striker springs? why? lighter trigger pull for competition guns
Guide rods, Which are better? Stainless, tungsten? Why? In my comp gun I use SS rod because I can change spring weight
Recoil springs? What spring to use? with what guide rod? depends on your load

I have seen a few threads on replacing the extractor and ejectors so thats self explanatory. Then the trigger mods, and other likewise parts are self explanatory. But why mod some of the other stuff? Why get a lightweight striker and change the spring? Are there modded springs for the Extractor plunger? Why would they need different?

There seems to be some mystery behind why these mods are done (at least to me). Companies like Salient, Zev and etc change the strikers, and this and that but why?


The Glock is a pretty cool tinker toy because you can easily change spring weights and make the trigger do vastly different things.  You can make the trigger feel like a heavy DA revolver, you can make the trigger lighter and lighter depending on the springs you change, and sky is really the limit on the different setups you can do with the Glock pistol.

Pretty much spot on, but the lightened strikers are generally designed to ensure reliable ignition with lighter striker springs (for a lighter trigger pull).  I haven't seen any evidence that they are any "faster".  The "hang time" of the striker is so incredibly short already that I don't see how it could possibly make a real difference if it was 0.001 sec faster.

  Correct, the only purpose of a lightweight striker is the ability to run lighter striker springs without sacrificing reliable ignition.  The hang time thing is gun rag advertising garbage.


I agree the difference in time is well very minuscule and honestly applies more to long range shooting with rifles.  The differences are exacerbated at 1000m that you will most likely never see at pistol ranges.
8/19/2015 10:29:10 AM EDT
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Some good information here. I like it. Helps me think about parts for my race gun.
8/19/2015 12:03:50 PM EDT
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Polish your trigger bar and connector. Makes a big difference


Just shooting the Hell out of it does the same thing.

polishing is cheaper

Then shoot the hell out if it
8/19/2015 2:15:54 PM EDT
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polishing is cheaper

Then shoot the hell out if it
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Polish your trigger bar and connector. Makes a big difference


Just shooting the Hell out of it does the same thing.

polishing is cheaper

Then shoot the hell out if it


Where is the fun in that?
8/19/2015 4:42:17 PM EDT
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I like the minus connector and new sights on Glocks.  I'm also trying out the Wolf reduced power plunger spring and Apex plunger.  They seem to help the trigger a little.  I should probably get a trigger pull gauge to verify.  I have never polished the controls, but I'd probably just buy one of the Glocktriggers sets instead of doing the work myself.

I'm kinda uneasy with messing with the trigger return spring or striker spring.
8/20/2015 9:21:40 AM EDT
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I like the minus connector and new sights on Glocks.  I'm also trying out the Wolf reduced power plunger spring and Apex plunger.  They seem to help the trigger a little.  I should probably get a trigger pull gauge to verify.  I have never polished the controls, but I'd probably just buy one of the Glocktriggers sets instead of doing the work myself.

I'm kinda uneasy with messing with the trigger return spring or striker spring.
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You'd get way more bang for your buck with a trigger spring than the safety plunger and spring with absolutely zero adverse affects.  I can understand your hesitation on the striker spring though.  Other than my 43, my carry guns all have stock striker springs.
8/20/2015 9:59:10 AM EDT
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For our Glock's, the mods we have done are after market barrels(we shoot a lot of cast bullets), night sights(on CCW guns) and heavier recoil spring on the 10mm's the shoot heavy recoiling loads.  Our fun guns, are all stock and have shot thousands of round through them.