Posted: 8/2/2015 7:54:03 PM EDT
| I recently stated shooting some competition so I decided to play with the triggers in a couple of my Glocks. I put a Ghost Rocket in my older Gen 3 G19 and polished the trigger bar lightly by hand. It worked wonders, and the 19 trigger feels great. I liked it so much I put a Ghost Rocket in my G34 Gen 4. I took it a step further on the 34 and put in a polished Gen 3 trigger bar, HD trigger return spring, and lighter firing pin block spring. The trigger in the G34 feels decent, but not as nice as the 19. I've heard that Gen 4's have slightly different trigger geometry due to the smaller grip size. Is that what's making my Gen 3 trigger feel better? Anything else I can do to improve my 34? I didn't really want to mess with the striker. |
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simple answer is YES the Gen 3 and Gen 4 have a different feel..
They redesigned something in the Gen 4 that added a 'bump' which adds about 1 lb to the trigger pull.. You can buy a Gen 3 trigger/bar and put it in the Gen 4 and you should be back to about the same.. $15 or close to it Brian |
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Tolerances.
Very rarely will you find two of the same guns with the same trigger mods that will feel identical. Just like the famous Glock .25 cent trigger job. Some guns see as much as over a full pound off the pull weight, some guns it doesn't do much beyond just making the pull a little smoother. This is why some feel better right out the box than others do too even across same models and same Gen's. |
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simple answer is YES the Gen 3 and Gen 4 have a different feel.. They redesigned something in the Gen 4 that added a 'bump' which adds about 1 lb to the trigger pull.. You can buy a Gen 3 trigger/bar and put it in the Gen 4 and you should be back to about the same.. $15 or close to it Brian That is not true at all. I have done pull weight differences on Gen4 vs Gen3 the bump has nothing to do with pull weight in fact my 4 was lower weight than some of my 3's stock. My Gen4 23 was different than my 19 by .25# out of the box. Few things make a good Glock trigger #1 is use, and correct springs and connector tailored to what you are trying to accomplish. A Glock that is shot more will wear in and feel much better than one out of the box. |
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I'm thinking about a lightened striker and a 4.5lb striker spring. Any reason not too? It's a competition gun, I would like to keep it reliable though. Nope. Myself and many, many people have had 100% primer ignition reliability with 4.5lb striker springs on lightened strikers. I have seen people even run 4lb springs and be good to go even with CCI primers. I wouldn't push it that far myself. |
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I'm thinking about a lightened striker and a 4.5lb striker spring. Any reason not too? It's a competition gun, I would like to keep it reliable though. If you plan on shooting cheap steel ammo I would say no..... I have only had 1 light strike when I did try it with federal Aluminium case. |
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I much prefer the Gen 3 triggers. The Gen 4 typically have a horrible 3 stage pull. I change out to a smooth Gen 3 trigger bar and I replace the "dot" connector on the Gen 4 with a standard 5.5lb Gen 3. That usually gets it somewhat close to the older Gen 3 pull. But, every single Glock is different. My Gen 4 23 was good enough. All my other Gen 4's (2 model 19 and 17) had to be replaced to be usable.
Sometimes, rarely, I have to use the "+" connector to get a crisp, 2 stage pull. |
| I put a gen 3 trigger bar in my gen 4 17. Vs the gen 4 bar (with -plunger spring and LW 3.5 bar, + return spring) it has a more positive feel between the take up and break and a much more positive reset. With the gen4 bar it was much harder to ride the trigger and it gave a very mushy reset. |
I installed the IDP lightened striker along with the 4.5lb spring. Wow, what a difference. Trigger is definitely lighter now by a decent margin. But not too light. And it still feels pretty nice, with a fairly crisp break and a good reset. And with the Ghost Rocket there is no overtravel, which greatly improves the feel. I'm pretty happy with the trigger now, provided it's reliable. I'll find out at tomorrow's match.  Only thing that could maybe stand to be improved is reducing the pretravel, but I'm not sure I see a need right now.
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