Posted: 7/31/2015 10:49:06 PM EDT
| Got a G27 trade in from Aim. The Fire control group has a grey colored part, shaped like a "v", that has a spring in it. Different from the standard spring that attaches to the control bar. What is it? It does seem a little bit harder to pull the slide back . |
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Got a G27 trade in from Aim. The Fire control group has a grey colored part, shaped like a "v", that has a spring in it. Different from the standard spring that attaches to the control bar. What is it? It does seem a little bit harder to pull the slide back . Its a New York 1 Trigger spring. Its a heavier spring. LINK ETA: I'm going to go out on a limb and say you may have a NY1 and a - Connecter in the gun. If so, not that bad of a set up. It does make the trigger a little snappy though. |
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The only real benefit to me is that it eliminates the possibility of the spring breaking and making the trigger fail to reset. I personally got a tired finger from mine and took it out, I kept the - connector though. I have the same set up in my EDC G27 Gen 3. Like 952melvin.....my finger is only good for 50 rounds at the range. I have a Blue label G19 Gen 4 on order for the range now. 
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Yep, That's it. Not sure if I like it. Quoted:
Yep, That's it. Not sure if I like it. You've got plenty of company. It's one of the Glock factory's, 'redesigned at customer request' parts that people seem to either love or hate. Personally, I hate the damned things; and I'm not afraid to admit it. If I wanted a revolver trigger, then I'd buy a real revolver - Not a striker-fired excuse for one. Quoted:
The only real benefit to me is that it eliminates the possibility of the spring breaking and making the trigger fail to reset. I personally got a tired finger from mine and took it out, I kept the - connector though. That's popular Glock mythology! The principal trigger reset mechanism in every Glock is (Ready?) ORDINARY MECHANICAL RECOIL. Proper FTFi training has a lot to do with whether or not your Glock is going to continue firing if and when the coil trigger spring breaks. If you're already firing all you've got 'a do is hold the trigger back and continue to fire that, 'impaired Glock' from its trigger-reset position. If, for some reason, ordinary mechanical recoil doesn't reset the trigger bar then simply rack the slide while continuing to hold the trigger back. Do one, or both, of these two things; and, even with a broken coil-type trigger spring, your Glock will still be, 'good-to-go'. |
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You've got plenty of company. It's one of the Glock factory's, 'redesigned at customer request' parts that people seem to either love or hate. Personally, I hate the damned things; and I'm not afraid to admit it. If I wanted a revolver trigger, then I'd buy a real revolver - Not a striker-fired excuse for one. That's popular Glock mythology! The principal trigger reset mechanism in every Glock is (Ready?) ORDINARY MECHANICAL RECOIL. Proper FTFi training has a lot to do with whether or not your Glock is going to continue firing if and when the coil trigger spring breaks. If you're already firing all you've got 'a do is hold the trigger back and continue to fire that, 'impaired Glock' from its trigger-reset position. If, for some reason, ordinary mechanical recoil doesn't reset the trigger bar then simply rack the slide while continuing to hold the trigger back. Do one, or both, of these two things; and, even with a broken coil-type trigger spring, your Glock will still be, 'good-to-go'. Quoted:
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Yep, That's it. Not sure if I like it. You've got plenty of company. It's one of the Glock factory's, 'redesigned at customer request' parts that people seem to either love or hate. Personally, I hate the damned things; and I'm not afraid to admit it. If I wanted a revolver trigger, then I'd buy a real revolver - Not a striker-fired excuse for one. Quoted:
The only real benefit to me is that it eliminates the possibility of the spring breaking and making the trigger fail to reset. I personally got a tired finger from mine and took it out, I kept the - connector though. That's popular Glock mythology! The principal trigger reset mechanism in every Glock is (Ready?) ORDINARY MECHANICAL RECOIL. Proper FTFi training has a lot to do with whether or not your Glock is going to continue firing if and when the coil trigger spring breaks. If you're already firing all you've got 'a do is hold the trigger back and continue to fire that, 'impaired Glock' from its trigger-reset position. If, for some reason, ordinary mechanical recoil doesn't reset the trigger bar then simply rack the slide while continuing to hold the trigger back. Do one, or both, of these two things; and, even with a broken coil-type trigger spring, your Glock will still be, 'good-to-go'. Yes, if you reset the trigger after every shot (I hope every shooter does this but we all make mistakes from time to time), Like I said, a benefit to having it can eliminate that. A spring that has many cons and may have one pro. I'd agree with it, I don't like the spring. It was designed for NYPD to solve a training deficit when the switched from revolvers to the Glocks. Leave the condescending attitude out of this please. |
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Yes, if you reset the trigger after every shot (I hope every shooter does this but we all make mistakes from time to time), Like I said, a benefit to having it can eliminate that. A spring that has many cons and may have one pro. I'd agree with it, I don't like the spring. It was designed for NYPD to solve a training deficit when the switched from revolvers to the Glocks. Leave the condescending attitude out of this please.  At risk of appearing to be, 'condescending' I don't think you actually understand what you're attempting to talk about; or, perhaps, you're just semiliterate; but, I tell ya what: There's a big difference between knowing your subject, and condescension. That left-handed slam was uncalled for. Typical internet gun forum crap talk; but, still, uncalled for. How's this: I won't presume to judge you if you'll agree to show me the same courtesy.
OK, melvin! 
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Combining a 3.5 connector and a NY1 spring makes for a nice crisp trigger and reset combination. I just put a NY1 spring into my G34 with factory "-" connector and from the dryfire I've done so far I really like it. Need to get it to the range and actually shoot it but I'm liking it so far. The more I shot the 34 with the "-" connector the less I liked it. There was no tension throughout most of the trigger pull, then a little "mush" and the break. The NY1 and "-" connector give me nice even resistance all the way through and then a good break. The reset is very stout as well. After I shake it out a bit more I may switch all my other Glocks to that setup. |
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Combining a 3.5 connector and a NY1 spring makes for a nice crisp trigger and reset combination. Yup. That is use in most of my Glock's. I am surprised that some can only shoot 50rds before their fingers get tired. That seem odd to me as I have put a couple hundred through mine without an issue in a short amount of time. Maybe I have a trigger finger with high stamina 
The only thing I dislike about the setup is that you need to keep the trigger held manually while you remove the slide or else it tries to reset by itself. |
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At risk of appearing to be, 'condescending' I don't think you actually understand what you're attempting to talk about; or, perhaps, you're just semiliterate; but, I tell ya what: There's a big difference between knowing your subject, and condescension. That left-handed slam was uncalled for. Typical internet gun forum crap talk; but, still, uncalled for. How's this: I won't presume to judge you if you'll agree to show me the same courtesy.
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Yes, if you reset the trigger after every shot (I hope every shooter does this but we all make mistakes from time to time), Like I said, a benefit to having it can eliminate that. A spring that has many cons and may have one pro. I'd agree with it, I don't like the spring. It was designed for NYPD to solve a training deficit when the switched from revolvers to the Glocks. Leave the condescending attitude out of this please. At risk of appearing to be, 'condescending' I don't think you actually understand what you're attempting to talk about; or, perhaps, you're just semiliterate; but, I tell ya what: There's a big difference between knowing your subject, and condescension. That left-handed slam was uncalled for. Typical internet gun forum crap talk; but, still, uncalled for. How's this: I won't presume to judge you if you'll agree to show me the same courtesy.
OK, melvin! I can assure you I understand what I'm talking about. Take your spring out of your Glock once and dry fire. If you don't reset the trigger (IE: hold the trigger in until reset) then the trigger bar will not reset, causing a dead trigger. I was slightly annoyed by your original delivery, I chose to inform you of that. Other than that, I don't really understand what else your trying to say or point out. ETA: I understand what your saying, but, also what I'm saying has some truth to it. For the most part it wont affect, or cause a malfunction, if the person who is firing is using proper trigger reset. But it could still cause a malfunction if you don't do proper trigger reset. Either way, the regular spring is more than sufficient. In all my experience I've never had a broken trigger spring and regular maintenance and inspection of your gun may prevent or detect those issues before they are a problem. |
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Combining a 3.5 connector and a NY1 spring makes for a nice crisp trigger and reset combination. 3.5 lb /Now also called the 4.5# = 'Minus' connector and NY1 is what I am using and really enjoy it.. I have tried using a lighter compression spring inside the NY1 trigger - that makes it even bettter... For a short time I removed the compression spring all togther and it was really nice pull. But I added it back after reading some forum posts.. brian |
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I can assure you I understand what I'm talking about. Take your spring out of your Glock once and dry fire. If you don't reset the trigger (IE: hold the trigger in until reset) then the trigger bar will not reset, causing a dead trigger. I was slightly annoyed by your original delivery, I chose to inform you of that. Other than that, I don't really understand what else your trying to say or point out. ETA: I understand what your saying, but, also what I'm saying has some truth to it. For the most part it wont affect, or cause a malfunction, if the person who is firing is using proper trigger reset. But it could still cause a malfunction if you don't do proper trigger reset. Either way, the regular spring is more than sufficient. In all my experience I've never had a broken trigger spring and regular maintenance and inspection of your gun may prevent or detect those issues before they are a problem. Quoted:
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Yes, if you reset the trigger after every shot (I hope every shooter does this but we all make mistakes from time to time), Like I said, a benefit to having it can eliminate that. A spring that has many cons and may have one pro. I'd agree with it, I don't like the spring. It was designed for NYPD to solve a training deficit when the switched from revolvers to the Glocks. Leave the condescending attitude out of this please. At risk of appearing to be, 'condescending' I don't think you actually understand what you're attempting to talk about; or, perhaps, you're just semiliterate; but, I tell ya what: There's a big difference between knowing your subject, and condescension. That left-handed slam was uncalled for. Typical internet gun forum crap talk; but, still, uncalled for. How's this: I won't presume to judge you if you'll agree to show me the same courtesy.
OK, melvin! I can assure you I understand what I'm talking about. Take your spring out of your Glock once and dry fire. If you don't reset the trigger (IE: hold the trigger in until reset) then the trigger bar will not reset, causing a dead trigger. I was slightly annoyed by your original delivery, I chose to inform you of that. Other than that, I don't really understand what else your trying to say or point out. ETA: I understand what your saying, but, also what I'm saying has some truth to it. For the most part it wont affect, or cause a malfunction, if the person who is firing is using proper trigger reset. But it could still cause a malfunction if you don't do proper trigger reset. Either way, the regular spring is more than sufficient. In all my experience I've never had a broken trigger spring and regular maintenance and inspection of your gun may prevent or detect those issues before they are a problem. This is correct. The gun will run fine as long as you have proper trigger control during the firing cycle. |
