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5/29/2015 2:09:03 AM EDT
So I recently purchased a gen 4 19 to replace my gen 3. I was wanting to lighten the trigger pull but not cause any reliability issues as it will be my main carry weapon. I had read that using a 3.5lb connector and a competition spring would lighten the pull weight. The parts I am looking at are lone wolf for the connector and Wolff for the competition spring. Is anyone running this setup, and if so have you had any increase in malfunctions since changing the parts? Also will this accomplish what I want and make the trigger lighter, of so is it a noticeable difference?
5/29/2015 7:06:09 AM EDT
[#1]
Honestly, I'd skip the spring and just buy a gen3 trigger bar and the 3.5# connector and polish the parts.
5/29/2015 8:49:13 AM EDT
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In mine I run the heavy trigger reset spring alone it takes about 1# off the trigger, fixes the mushy clunk feeling when the striker is released and makes for a more positive reset.  Of all the - connectors I prefer either the Scherer (if you can find them) or Glock brand ones.  In my experience the LWD - connectors felt worse of all the choices plus the Glock one is cheap.
The other thing that will make your pistol feel better is really shoot it at first the Gen4 triggers feel MEH but once you really put some lead through it the trigger smoothes out and really starts feeling nice.  I honestly think people who do not like the trigger on their Glock really have not shot it enough to wear everything together to make it feel like it should.  The other thing I do on my compact Glocks is replace the ribbed trigger with a G17 smooth trigger.
5/29/2015 10:28:56 AM EDT
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Suggest you lose the idea of using a, 'competition spring'.  (Which spring is that exactly?)  'Competition springs' do NOT belong in EDC pistols.  The best aftermarket Glock connector on the market, right now, is Ghost's EVO.  

This said, I've been using Wolff Gunsprings' 'extra power' trigger springs in my Glocks for the past 12 years; and I wouldn't do it any other way.  Do NOT lighten your striker safety spring in an effort to improve your trigger.  Why?  Because you WILL lighten your trigger; but you will, also, have a considerably less safe pistol.  (The trade-off isn't worth it.)  With an EVO connector - which requires some hand-fitting and a few basic tools - you also get a built-in trigger stop; which is something else I like on a Glock.  I tend to shoot quickly; and the stop in combination with a cleaner trigger reset helps to produce much tighter groups on the targets.  

A nicely polished trigger bar - especially along:   the top edge of the striker safety cam, along the inside of the, 'bird's head', and on the muzzle-end face of the striker lug - is worth as much, or more, than using a reduced weight safety spring.  I hesitate to suggest you should polish the head of the striker safety button because many of these, 'buttons' are now plated instead of being made of the original hardened steel like the ones in my older Gen 3 pistols.  A striker safety button needs to move between trigger strokes in order to avoid grooving.  Friction is what moves the button head the best; and you'll get more friction with a standard weight safety spring.  (After 25,000 + fired rounds mine show no wear, at all; but, then again, they are also made of the older, highly polished, solid steel.)  

Neither has it been my experience that the use of a 6 lb. Wolff Gunsprings' trigger spring in combination with a, '3.5 lb.' connector reduces a Glock's CUMULATIVE trigger pull weight by more than, say, a half pound.  Any Glock's measured trigger pull is actually the result of ALL THE SPRINGS AND THE SELECTED CONNECTOR working together.  Change any one spring, or the connector and you will get a different result.  I use, '3.5 lb.' connectors in my Glocks with standard weight recoil springs, and 6 lb. coil trigger springs.  My cumulative Glock trigger pulls run in a range from 4.8 to 5.3 lb.; and the trigger resets are just as clean and crisp as a factory standard trigger bar is able to produce.
5/29/2015 10:30:05 AM EDT
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Oh, is that so? All my Glocks have comp springs, including my EDC 19 which has well over 2K flawless rounds through it thus far.
5/29/2015 10:43:38 AM EDT
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Oh, is that so? All my Glocks have comp springs, including my EDC 19 which has well over 2K flawless rounds through it thus far.
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Suggest you lose the idea of using a, 'competition spring'.  (Which spring is that exactly?)  'Competition springs' do NOT belong in EDC pistols.  


Oh, is that so? All my Glocks have comp springs, including my EDC 19 which has well over 2K flawless rounds through it thus far.
 

So what?  
5/29/2015 10:45:50 AM EDT
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Oh, is that so? All my Glocks have comp springs, including my EDC 19 which has well over 2K flawless rounds through it thus far.
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Oh, is that so? All my Glocks have comp springs, including my EDC 19 which has well over 2K flawless rounds through it thus far.


Right with you buddy..... It does not make it any more or less safe changing this spring the pistol still has to have the trigger pressed to fire bottom line if you follow proper firearms safety and keep the booger finger off the bang switch till you are ready to fire well it speaks for itself.

The comp or heavy spring makes the Glock trigger EVERYTHING it should be it brings the trigger on par and in line with similar feeling trigger in the VP9 and PPQ and what I like is it takes out that mushy clunk feeling as the striker breaks and is released.
5/29/2015 10:50:13 AM EDT
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Suggest you lose the idea of using a, 'competition spring'.  (Which spring is that exactly?)  'Competition springs' do NOT belong in EDC pistols.  


Oh, is that so? All my Glocks have comp springs, including my EDC 19 which has well over 2K flawless rounds through it thus far.
 

So what?  

So what is you're wrong. Stop giving bad advice to people.
5/29/2015 11:12:10 AM EDT
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My GEN 4 G19 carry glock has:

GEN 3 trigger bar
ZEV V4 race connector
ZEV 6lb return spring
ZEV reduced power plunger spring
25 cent trigger job
= Carry perfection (non gritty, light, wall but barely, crisp break, short positive reset)

I leave the striker springs alone on a carry gun
5/30/2015 8:41:53 AM EDT
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Post edited.  Stop with the arguing or the thread will be locked. -AJE