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5/25/2015 7:13:34 AM EDT
Several months ago I purchased a Vickers G19. I love the thing and have no intention of ever selling it. That said,the "rarity" of it is of no value to me since I shoot it all the time.

Here is the problem I am having,the frame texture is digging in on one particular spot on my strong side palm. On range sessions that get over 400 rounds it starts to remove skin. The texture is great since I live in Florida and sweat is an issue. However, I am wanting to use this gun to take a class or two and if the round count was high it would probably tear my hand up.

Have any of you used sand paper or another technique to dull the texture in areas of your frame? It is only the small spot on the hump that catches my palm.
5/25/2015 7:46:45 AM EDT
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Take some 200 grit and lightly buff until it gets to where you want it.
5/25/2015 8:35:10 AM EDT
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Do not, I repeat do not, permanently modify that frame.  (Cause, if you do, you'll end up being really really sorry!)  I, also, own a G-19(RTF2)  All I do to adopt it to long drawn out range sessions is add a Hogue, 'Hand-All' rubber sleeve - Very comfortable!  

5/25/2015 8:46:26 AM EDT
[#3]
Get a riggers belt or some heavy webbing and rub it on the grip vigorously until you dull down the textures.thats what I did for my rtf2.
5/25/2015 9:22:20 AM EDT
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+1
5/25/2015 9:24:25 AM EDT
[#5]
Don't sand down the frame. Dont
5/25/2015 9:45:03 AM EDT
[#6]
Don't modify the frame.  Unless you have really sensitive skin your hand will heal and the texture wont bother you anymore.
5/25/2015 9:57:05 AM EDT
[#7]
What's rtf?

Txl
5/25/2015 10:06:31 AM EDT
[#8]
Honestly? I'd suggest you dry fire more often. You'll build up to where it won't bother you much.

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5/25/2015 10:17:59 AM EDT
[#9]
Meh.  I knocked the edges off places on mine and I still love it.  It helps for concealment to knock them down a bit anyways.

Go for it OP !
5/25/2015 10:22:07 AM EDT
[#10]
400 rounds in a day is really more than what most people can shoot and still be learning anything.

I've attended quite a few 400-500 round a day classes and by the end of the day it's just a waste of ammo.

I would not sissy down an RTF2 frame so I could blow more ammo.
5/25/2015 12:03:39 PM EDT
[#11]
wear gloves.
5/25/2015 2:36:22 PM EDT
[#12]
I appreciate all the input.

I work with my hands for a living so they're pretty calloused as it is. I also dry fire this gun a reasonable amount and it seems to be making a new callous. It tears my hand up dry firing just as it does shooting it.

I was not looking to use sand paper to sand the frame smooth. I was more interested in using a finer grit paper to dull the portion that is wearing my hand in a way that isn't visually noticeable. I can already tell the RTF2 is wearing in a few areas from use( I swear the fde colored plastics aren't as hard as black) so I guess I was just trying to " wear" it in a little faster with something other than my flesh.
5/26/2015 9:42:08 AM EDT
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I appreciate all the input.

I work with my hands for a living so they're pretty calloused as it is. I also dry fire this gun a reasonable amount and it seems to be making a new callous. It tears my hand up dry firing just as it does shooting it.

I was not looking to use sand paper to sand the frame smooth. I was more interested in using a finer grit paper to dull the portion that is wearing my hand in a way that isn't visually noticeable. I can already tell the RTF2 is wearing in a few areas from use( I swear the fde colored plastics aren't as hard as black) so I guess I was just trying to " wear" it in a little faster with something other than my flesh.
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I appreciate all the input.

I work with my hands for a living so they're pretty calloused as it is. I also dry fire this gun a reasonable amount and it seems to be making a new callous. It tears my hand up dry firing just as it does shooting it.

I was not looking to use sand paper to sand the frame smooth. I was more interested in using a finer grit paper to dull the portion that is wearing my hand in a way that isn't visually noticeable. I can already tell the RTF2 is wearing in a few areas from use( I swear the fde colored plastics aren't as hard as black) so I guess I was just trying to " wear" it in a little faster with something other than my flesh.
 
That's very well said; and, personally, I agree Glock's black, 'D6 Polymer' is stronger and more durable than the other colors.  By the way I still remember when a whole lot of New Jersey IPSC shooters used to pay Austin Behlert lots and lots of money in order to have their 1911 pattern frames deliberately roughed up in order to make their grip more secure.  The pattern Austin used on his front and backstraps was called, 'fishhook'; and, trust me, it definitely lived up to its name!  Yes, you could shoot better using it too; but, as you've pointed out, only for a little while!  

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What's rtf?
 
'RTF2' = Glock's acronym for, 'Rough-Texture Frame'  (The #2 after it stands for the factory's second attempt to come up with a popular rough-textured grip.)  

Here!

5/26/2015 9:57:02 AM EDT
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Font file it down, just buy a gen 3 and have someone stipple it.

Keep that beautiful thing as it is.


I wear mine IWB with no under shirt. But I just might have rougher skin because it doesn't bother me.
5/26/2015 10:15:51 PM EDT
[#15]
As said, wear gloves.  Mechanix gloves do the trick for tactical classes.
5/27/2015 1:03:13 AM EDT
[#16]
I cut a bicycle inner-tube to fit over the grip for my daily carry.









 
5/27/2015 9:05:03 AM EDT
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400 rounds in a day is really more than what most people can shoot and still be learning anything.

I've attended quite a few 400-500 round a day classes and by the end of the day it's just a waste of ammo.

I would not sissy down an RTF2 frame so I could blow more ammo.
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I must say you're literally the only person I've ever seen claim that rounds down range is just wasting ammo. Sounds like you chose to take some really crappy classes if by the end of the day you felt that you just "wasted" ammo.
5/27/2015 12:42:48 PM EDT
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I must say you're literally the only person I've ever seen claim that rounds down range is just wasting ammo. Sounds like you chose to take some really crappy classes if by the end of the day you felt that you just "wasted" ammo.
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400 rounds in a day is really more than what most people can shoot and still be learning anything.

I've attended quite a few 400-500 round a day classes and by the end of the day it's just a waste of ammo.

I would not sissy down an RTF2 frame so I could blow more ammo.

I must say you're literally the only person I've ever seen claim that rounds down range is just wasting ammo. Sounds like you chose to take some really crappy classes if by the end of the day you felt that you just "wasted" ammo.

Well, having put in a few strenuous days, myself, I can tell you that once you reach the point where your muscles are loaded up with lactic acid, and your brain, itself, starts to become tired, at that point, you WILL BE wasting ammunition.  (You'll know you're, 'there' when your brain tells you what to do, but the appropriate mental cue just doesn't seem to reach the intended muscles on time.)  

I've shot 500 round days, too; and, even when I was young, that was about as hard as I cared to push myself.  In fact, stay at any physical activity for long enough; and YOU WILL begin to experience a personal, 'point of diminishing returns'.  
5/27/2015 2:12:51 PM EDT
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Not sure how this thread got off on a tangent but I'll add that I would much rather do 100 rounds of actual class work as opposed to 400 rounds just blasting at whatever.

I too have felt the end of the 500 round class and the instructor is like "alright! Time for malfunction drills!"  At that point my body/brain couldn't take it.
5/27/2015 3:13:18 PM EDT
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I appreciate the input. That inner tube trick looks like it might be worth trying or at least having in the range bag in case I need it.

While am certainly no Jerry Miculek, those that are claiming anything over xxxx round count is a waste of ammo are assuming a lot. I own quite a bit of steel targets in all shapes, sizes and styles as well shot timers and have access to a range where I am essentially allowed to do whatever I want. That said ,just drawing on the timer and shooting plates over will cause you to burn through 100+ rounds in a hurry.

5/27/2015 5:37:09 PM EDT
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Mother of god! Is that a factory OD RTF frame??? Great something else I need to buy now. I love the texture if my RTF2 23, awesome! Truly a shame they quit making them.
5/27/2015 6:26:19 PM EDT
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Do not buff it, do not sand it, and basically don't fuck it up.

Sell it to buy a Gen4, wear gloves, or deal with it. Please don't fuck a RTF2.
5/27/2015 8:45:20 PM EDT
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Do not buff it, do not sand it, and basically don't fuck it up.

Sell it to buy a Gen4, wear gloves, or deal with it. Please don't fuck a RTF2.
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I second this.  I think the RTF2 grips are amazingly fantastic.  I have soft girly hands and I dont find them to be too rough.  
After shooting one, i find all of my other guns to be too slippery.  
I woudlnt sand it and ruin it like that.  
Also, after you sand it/smooth it, you might no like what you have done and then it will be too late.
5/29/2015 8:39:19 AM EDT
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Sanding sponge will smooth it
5/29/2015 9:26:20 AM EDT
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I guess be thankful it isn't as aggressive as the old RTF2.

I found the Vickers RTF2 to be a little less aggressive than my 19RTF2 with the fish gills