Posted: 1/2/2015 11:19:37 PM EDT
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My brother is trying some custom Glock stuff.
Anyone know the true Glock grip angle? A google search beings back different answers. Thanks |
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My brother is trying some custom Glock stuff. Anyone know the true Glock grip angle? A google search beings back different answers. Thanks Pretty close to 70 degrees if I remember correctly. The glocks very pronounced hump is what can cause an awkward angle for some folks. It' isn't the grip angle as a whole. Thats why with most reductions, the tendency to point high is eliminated. TXPO |
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I absolutely LOVE everything about my glocks, except the damn luger rake grip angle.
A Beretta 92 or 1911 I can point shoot as natural. With my glocks, I have to remember to dip the wrist or I'm going to be punching holes in hats, rather than hearts... I dream that glock will someday make a special 1911 commemerative issue with a 1911 grip (like ruger did on their 22 pistols with the 22/45) |
Here is the answer to the problem  Two styles offered now - grooved and smooth. The combo deal is running $25+/- I just put some on and it fixed the angle problem for me. Helps with slide bite too. KEN HACKATHORN - GRIP FORCE ADAPTER DEMONSTRATION The Grip Force Adapter |
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I absolutely LOVE everything about my glocks, except the damn luger rake grip angle. A Beretta 92 or 1911 I can point shoot as natural. With my glocks, I have to remember to dip the wrist or I'm going to be punching holes in hats, rather than hearts... I dream that glock will someday make a special 1911 commemerative issue with a 1911 grip (like ruger did on their 22 pistols with the 22/45) You do know that the Glock grip angle and the 1911 grip angle are exactly the same, right? It's not the angle that changes where the gun points, it's the hump. Just like a 1911 with an arched mainspring housing. |
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Here is the answer to the problem http://www.gripforceproducts.com/images/2f5c8de6ac554704b0a6c4b59d6043c1_bsrg.jpghttp://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTEwNFgxNDcy/z/RfgAAMXQlgtS1Bxl/$_35.JPG?set_id=880000500F Two styles offered now - grooved and smooth. The combo deal is running $25+/- I just put some on and it fixed the angle problem for me. Helps with slide bite too. KEN HACKATHORN - GRIP FORCE ADAPTER DEMONSTRATION The Grip Force Adapter When I first saw these a few years back I thought it was a joke. After trying them I have them on all my Glocks! Very easy to modify too. Worth the small cost to try IMHO |
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You do know that the Glock grip angle and the 1911 grip angle are exactly the same, right? Quoted:
You do know that the Glock grip angle and the 1911 grip angle are exactly the same, right? Except they aren't. The frontstrap is at a different angle as well as the hump-induced angle on the backstrap. Quoted:
[span style='font-weight: bold;']Here is the answer to the problem #1, doesn't change the frontstrap angle. #2, makes for a HUGE size grip. |
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Here is the answer to the problem http://www.gripforceproducts.com/images/2f5c8de6ac554704b0a6c4b59d6043c1_bsrg.jpghttp://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTEwNFgxNDcy/z/RfgAAMXQlgtS1Bxl/$_35.JPG?set_id=880000500F Two styles offered now - grooved and smooth. The combo deal is running $25+/- I just put some on and it fixed the angle problem for me. Helps with slide bite too. KEN HACKATHORN - GRIP FORCE ADAPTER DEMONSTRATION The Grip Force Adapter I'm not sold on these. I've fired a Glock equipped with one and didn't like it at all. I find that the Glock grip angle forces you to rock your wrist forward which helps manage recoil. I like it just as it is. |
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Interesting |
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Interesting I've seen another with different numbers but they were close. It's funny to hear some people rant about how horrible some guns grip angle is but another is perfect. It's more than the angle itself that matters for most, but some regurgitate what they see on the internet. "A 1911 is perfect but the Glocks angle sucks ass" and stuff. |
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This doesn't take into account the various contours of the grip, and specifically the hump on the back of the Glock that causes the gun to sit at a different angle in hand. Only grips where the grip is straight without large contours (i.e. 1911) can be determined in that manner. |
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This doesn't take into account the various contours of the grip, and specifically the hump on the back of the Glock that causes the gun to sit at a different angle in hand. Only grips where the grip is straight without large contours (i.e. 1911) can be determined in that manner. Quoted:
This doesn't take into account the various contours of the grip, and specifically the hump on the back of the Glock that causes the gun to sit at a different angle in hand. Only grips where the grip is straight without large contours (i.e. 1911) can be determined in that manner. I know, see above. There's more to it than the angle. |
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I've seen another with different numbers but they were close. It's funny to hear some people rant about how horrible some guns grip angle is but another is perfect. It's more than the angle itself that matters for most, but some regurgitate what they see on the internet. "A 1911 is perfect but the Glocks angle sucks ass" and stuff. Quoted:
I've seen another with different numbers but they were close. It's funny to hear some people rant about how horrible some guns grip angle is but another is perfect. It's more than the angle itself that matters for most, but some regurgitate what they see on the internet. "A 1911 is perfect but the Glocks angle sucks ass" and stuff. The grip very much reminds me of my Springfield WWII mil spec with arched mainspring housing. |
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The angle never bothered me, it was the hump.....So away it went. Look ma' straight back strap and now the grip is in alignment, problem solved for me. http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff295/Texaspoff/DSC_0001_zpse01cab71.jpg TXPO The hump is what causes the grip angle. |
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The hump is what causes the grip angle. Quoted:
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The angle never bothered me, it was the hump.....So away it went. Look ma' straight back strap and now the grip is in alignment, problem solved for me. http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff295/Texaspoff/DSC_0001_zpse01cab71.jpg TXPO The hump is what causes the grip angle. Actually if you are talking in a technical aspect, the grip angle is determined by the grip in relation to the barrel bore/axis and the design of the weapon. The grip angle can't be changed without a redesigning the weapon altogether. Now the angle in which the shooters hand grabs the grip can be changed, and that is what removing the hump does. It doesn't change the actual grip angle as a whole, just the back straps angle and thus the shooters hand in relation to how it holds the grip. The example is a glocks grip angle is as mentioned above 112 degrees with or without the hump, a 1911 grip angle is 110 degrees with an arched MSH or a flat one. The grip force adapter also changes the way a shooters hand fits on the grip by filling in the top portion of the back giving a more even line down the back strap. The disadvantage of the Grip force is it adds to the Glocks grip size, but isn't permanent. A reduction reduces the size of the grip, but it is permanent. They essentially achieve the same affect, changing the way a shooters hand fits the grip. TXPO |
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Yep, that's what I came here to say. |
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Excellent picture. The entire Glock grip angle thing is right up there with "Should I carry with a round in the chamber" and "don't use the slide release because those are 'fine motor skills' ". |
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I've owned and shot 5 Glocks for over a decade; my G22 have over 27,000rds through it so I'm really familiar with grip. That said, I got my first 1911, a Springfield Mil-Spec in 2011 and noticed right off that the two platforms pointed differently for me. I tried to train to the difference but finally realized that the difference was hard to overcome. I tried the original Grip Force Adaptor to fill in the dip at the top of the grip and the problem was solved instantly. Now both platforms feel the same and swapping between them is a snap. |
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Quoted: The angle never bothered me, it was the hump.....So away it went. Look ma' straight back strap and now the grip is in alignment, problem solved for me. http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff295/Texaspoff/DSC_0001_zpse01cab71.jpg TXPO |
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If only they put some small indicators on the slide so a person could tell where the pistol was pointed. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Now that would be a novel idea. What a fantastic thought.  I don't really think the grip angle is the problem if your not putting the sites on your target.
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Except they aren't. The frontstrap is at a different angle as well as the hump-induced angle on the backstrap. #1, doesn't change the frontstrap angle. #2, makes for a HUGE size grip. Quoted:
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You do know that the Glock grip angle and the 1911 grip angle are exactly the same, right? Except they aren't. The frontstrap is at a different angle as well as the hump-induced angle on the backstrap. Quoted:
[span style='font-weight: bold;']Here is the answer to the problem #1, doesn't change the frontstrap angle. #2, makes for a HUGE size grip. You're talking grip contour, not grip angle. The actual angle is the same, 110 degrees IIRC. The grip contours are very different. |
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There's also more to grip angle than just a protractor from the angle of the bore to the front strap or backstrap, or even the shape of the grip. Care to educate me then? Not being smarmy, I'd just genuinely like to know what the term actually encompasses if it's not just the protractor angle. |
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I wouldn't have a problem with any Glock back strap if they were all like the G19/23. The hump on the G17 and G26 is too pronounced. |
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Care to educate me then? Not being smarmy, I'd just genuinely like to know what the term actually encompasses if it's not just the protractor angle. Quoted:
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There's also more to grip angle than just a protractor from the angle of the bore to the front strap or backstrap, or even the shape of the grip. Care to educate me then? Not being smarmy, I'd just genuinely like to know what the term actually encompasses if it's not just the protractor angle. The relationship of the tang and where the web of the hand sits, to the trigger also has an effect on how the pistol points. |
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Beautiful. Who did your work? Quoted:
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The angle never bothered me, it was the hump.....So away it went. Look ma' straight back strap and now the grip is in alignment, problem solved for me. http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff295/Texaspoff/DSC_0001_zpse01cab71.jpg TXPO I do all the grip work. MOD1 did the slide work. TXPO |
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Actually if you are talking in a technical aspect, the grip angle is determined by the grip in relation to the barrel bore/axis and the design of the weapon. The grip angle can't be changed without a redesigning the weapon altogether. Now the angle in which the shooters hand grabs the grip can be changed, and that is what removing the hump does. It doesn't change the actual grip angle as a whole, just the back straps angle and thus the shooters hand in relation to how it holds the grip. The example is a glocks grip angle is as mentioned above 112 degrees with or without the hump, a 1911 grip angle is 110 degrees with an arched MSH or a flat one. The grip force adapter also changes the way a shooters hand fits on the grip by filling in the top portion of the back giving a more even line down the back strap. The disadvantage of the Grip force is it adds to the Glocks grip size, but isn't permanent. A reduction reduces the size of the grip, but it is permanent. They essentially achieve the same affect, changing the way a shooters hand fits the grip. TXPO Quoted:
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The angle never bothered me, it was the hump.....So away it went. Look ma' straight back strap and now the grip is in alignment, problem solved for me. http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff295/Texaspoff/DSC_0001_zpse01cab71.jpg TXPO The hump is what causes the grip angle. Actually if you are talking in a technical aspect, the grip angle is determined by the grip in relation to the barrel bore/axis and the design of the weapon. The grip angle can't be changed without a redesigning the weapon altogether. Now the angle in which the shooters hand grabs the grip can be changed, and that is what removing the hump does. It doesn't change the actual grip angle as a whole, just the back straps angle and thus the shooters hand in relation to how it holds the grip. The example is a glocks grip angle is as mentioned above 112 degrees with or without the hump, a 1911 grip angle is 110 degrees with an arched MSH or a flat one. The grip force adapter also changes the way a shooters hand fits on the grip by filling in the top portion of the back giving a more even line down the back strap. The disadvantage of the Grip force is it adds to the Glocks grip size, but isn't permanent. A reduction reduces the size of the grip, but it is permanent. They essentially achieve the same affect, changing the way a shooters hand fits the grip. TXPO I always view grip angle as the angle the gun sits in your hand when you grip it. Being that the grip is not merely a straight object on the vast majority of guns, you cannot genuinely measure the angle between the grip and bore-line, as the grip is, like I said, not a straight object. Grip angle cannot really be finely measured due to this, and can only be described in relevance to another gun's grip. e.g. A 1911 has a much more vertical grip angle with a flat mainspring housing than a Glock 17. |
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The relationship of the tang and where the web of the hand sits, to the trigger also has an effect on how the pistol points. Quoted:
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There's also more to grip angle than just a protractor from the angle of the bore to the front strap or backstrap, or even the shape of the grip. Care to educate me then? Not being smarmy, I'd just genuinely like to know what the term actually encompasses if it's not just the protractor angle. The relationship of the tang and where the web of the hand sits, to the trigger also has an effect on how the pistol points. Interesting. Guess when you think about it, it really is a bit more than just a number. |