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3/14/2005 4:10:44 PM EDT
My wife and I slept through a burglary of our apt.  Seems that the criminal came in (our front door was probably unlocked), immediately saw my car keys, wallet and phone on the computer desk, and took my wife's purse and left, taking my car as well.  My Glock was not far from me in bed, and I didn't even wake up or here anything.    probably better I didn't, either him or I would of been in a world of hurt, and either way, I would of not been able to finish my last semester for graduation.
3/14/2005 4:12:39 PM EDT
[#1]
3/14/2005 4:19:51 PM EDT
[#2]
Lock your doors !
3/14/2005 4:58:21 PM EDT
[#3]
Lesson learned, it could have been much much worse.
3/14/2005 7:52:49 PM EDT
[#4]
What would your dispatching a burglar have to do with whether you finished the semester?
3/14/2005 8:16:03 PM EDT
[#5]
Did he get caught? Did you get the car back?

No offense but I guess you kind of had it comming if you didn't lock your doors.
3/15/2005 1:17:22 AM EDT
[#6]
Very sorry about your loss. I know you have not heard this before but
"LOCK YOUR DOORS MAN !"
3/15/2005 3:01:11 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
Very sorry about your loss. I know you have not heard this before but
"LOCK YOUR DOORS MAN !"



And buy a dog.
3/15/2005 3:03:27 AM EDT
[#8]
Claymore
3/15/2005 4:19:47 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
What would your dispatching a burglar have to do with whether you finished the semester?



If the perp took a few more steps into the bedroom, he would have got the pistol and the owner potentially could have been shot. At least that's how I interpret it.
3/15/2005 4:20:42 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:

Quoted:
What would your dispatching a burglar have to do with whether you finished the semester?



If the perp took a few more steps into the bedroom, he would have got the pistol and the owner potentially could have been shot. At least that's how I interpret it.



either that or the fact that he would have been consumed in legal issues?
3/15/2005 4:26:53 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:


And buy a dog.



+1

And lock your doors.
3/15/2005 5:00:31 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
Claymore




+1
3/15/2005 8:33:55 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Claymore




+1



+2

and an alarm (clock)
3/16/2005 6:15:44 AM EDT
[#14]
you dont lock your doors???
3/16/2005 6:18:02 AM EDT
[#15]


Maybe a 'do not disturb' door hanger would help if you don't want to lock your doors

Glad everyone's okay though, could have been a whole lot worse than that.
3/16/2005 6:29:53 AM EDT
[#16]
He's in Texas, so I don't think he'd face any legal issues for taking the life of an uncivilized savage who'd broken into his apartment.  
3/16/2005 10:33:07 AM EDT
[#17]
damn man.... I know you have heard it a million times already...... LOCK THE DOORS!  

how about an update?? did they get the car back?
3/16/2005 10:59:20 AM EDT
[#18]


Quoted:

And buy a dog.



+1

Dogs hear everything, IMO better defense than a gun
1.) Trained Doberman
2.) Glock 19 w/ M3

Rose Mech
3/16/2005 11:11:15 AM EDT
[#19]
I saw the movie "Hostage" the other night.  Just like "Safe Room" a couple of years ago, I saw no problems that couldn't be solved by a mean dog and a 12 gauge.
3/16/2005 12:02:38 PM EDT
[#20]
Yes, I got the car back, in this shape:




The jackass totalled it this morning, and I get a call from HPD saying they found my car, but it was totalled, and the suspect fled the seen.  Now the only thing I'm worried about, is I'm positive it's someone from our apartments or a friend of someone from our apartments.  I have too many valuables, and I feel helpless when I'm gone during the day that this asshole might break in and steal my guns, and electronics.  Not only that my wife is absolutely terrified now, especially since the police told me the suspect was described by the victims he hit today as an "over 6 foot tall heavy set 'black' man."  She doesn't want to go near my guns and refuses to learn how to use them.  So I'm at a loss with that.  At least my insurance is going to cover me for the value of the car.  Other than that there's nothing else I can do.  

The reason I said I couldn't finish my semester is I guarntee you if I had shot or wounded this 'black' male his piece of shit family would of tried to sue me, and I'd be at least for the next couple of weeks in a bunch of crap legal issues.  So I definately wouldn't finish my senior design projects (I'm in Engineering).  Which would piss me off even further.

this is what my nightstand looks like, so either him or myself would of been in a world of hurt, hopefully him I had just bought a box of hydra-shok that day and had them loaded, or even worse my wife and my 16mth daughter who was luckly in the bed with us that night.  



after this I really, really need to get my CHL and carry something.  And get something small for my wife to learn how to shoot.

I'll also more than likely store my AR, and rifles at my sister's house, they live in an impregnable hi-class area here in Houston, so I would feel safter with my guns there, and just keep my glock 17 here with me and where ever  I go.  Does this sound like a smart idea?  I really don't care much about our TV and computer, not that expensive, and easy to replace, but not a 900 dollar rifle, and my C&R rifles.  
3/16/2005 12:21:56 PM EDT
[#21]
Put the gun in a holster.
3/16/2005 12:29:35 PM EDT
[#22]
Glad you and the wife are ok. A dog is a good idea if allowed where you live. No need for a trained attack dog, go to the shelter and get a medium size mutt. Get your wife some pepper spray and they make little alarms for travellers that just hang on the door knob and go off if the handle gets rattled, enough to give you and the wife a warning. Also make sure that you have a phone in the bedroom so that the wife can call for help with out going up front. Also keeping extra guns at a family members house is a good idea, I did the same when I was in a apt. and my truck was stolen with some gun related material in it, I fiqured they might come to the apt when they relised I had guns.

Oh yeah  and   lock your doors at all times.
3/16/2005 12:52:19 PM EDT
[#23]
Glad you are OK!  Sorry for your loss.  There's nothing like getting robbed to change your outlooko n life.  

If a safe for the gun is out of the question, due to cost or not wanting to move the damn thing every time you get a new apt. you can pick up one of those steel security cabinets from Stackon.  I've got the two door version and paid about 150 bucks for it.  Then bolt it to the wall and to the floor from inside the case.  It comes with smaller self tapping screws for that purpose, but you can get larger bolts for only a couple of bucks.  Then, I filled the bottom shelf of the narrow "handgun" side with about 300 pounds of lead shot.  I reload shotgun shells so it wasn't unreasonable to have that much shot on hand.  It's not as good as a safe, but would really slow someone down.  If it's not bolted and weighted down, it's nothing more than a carrying case for the bad guy to take all of your stuff.  I keep expensive electronics, jewelry and the like inside it too.  Of course my Rottie helps prevent property loss as well.  Of course by the time you buy all that, you're approaching the cost of a small safe.  

Locking the door is a good start.  And a dog is a good idea too.  The issues involved in offing a burglar, especially since your door wasn't locked probably would have consumed your last semester.  I dog is a lot of work, but much easier than dealing with the consequences of putting a bad guy down.  I'm in grad school myself and can't imagine having to deal with all of that.  Also, knowing the anti-gun mentality of most universities, they'd likely dismiss you as well.  
3/16/2005 1:24:16 PM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:
Put the gun in a holster.



I was thinking the same thing. Darn good advice
3/16/2005 1:26:15 PM EDT
[#25]
.
3/16/2005 1:40:14 PM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:

I have too many valuables, and I feel helpless when I'm gone during the day that this asshole might break in and steal my guns.



store my AR, and rifles at my sister's house.




So your saying you do not own a safe either?
3/16/2005 1:49:06 PM EDT
[#27]
Thats crazy, I missed an opportunity to use my M4, M9 and M134 Minigun today.  The move ammo by slingload mission got pushed back.  Lord knows what death and destruction I might have been able to rain down on the commie pinko bastards.  Always a bridemaid, never a bride.....................
3/16/2005 6:28:43 PM EDT
[#28]
So, you're left-handed?  
3/16/2005 8:48:32 PM EDT
[#29]
you need one of this

glad you'r ok.. you just missed a chance to empty your mag
3/17/2005 3:25:58 AM EDT
[#30]
hey MM where in houston do you stay????


i wouldnt want that guy coming around me.
didnt notice your handle till now. we meet at carter's once. hope everything turns out better.
3/17/2005 10:56:26 AM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:
hey MM where in houston do you stay????

i wouldnt want that guy coming around me.

didnt notice your handle till now. we meet at carter's once. hope everything turns out better.



what's up man.  Yeah, I tried to look for you on the Texas forum but couldn't.  

We'll have to meet up for a shoot one weekend again.

I live near Willowbrook, if that means anything.

3/17/2005 11:39:57 AM EDT
[#32]

Quoted:
you need one of this img117.exs.cx/img117/1004/jo5dr.jpg</a>

glad you'r ok.. you just missed a chance to empty your mag



definately, as soon as we get a house.  

thanks for all the helpful tips.  Time warner is about to install a security system, I hope it's worth it.  Also, my wife out of the blue said she thinks it's time she finally learned how to use a gun.  That gives me some hope.


-mark
3/17/2005 12:00:37 PM EDT
[#33]
I feel sorry for your problems there, but a dog would be a great addition to yout household. If you slept thru someone entering your house, what could have happened if he found you before you have fully awakened?
I think you should also have a talk with your wife! She should get with the program ." She doesn't want to go near my guns and refuses to learn how to use them." How bout learning the basics? Unload & make safe? She doesn't have to like them or want to use them but if there are firearms in the household, she needs to take some responsibility for the sake of everyones safety.
3/17/2005 1:22:12 PM EDT
[#34]

Quoted:
I feel sorry for your problems there, but a dog would be a great addition to yout household. If you slept thru someone entering your house, what could have happened if he found you before you have fully awakened?
I think you should also have a talk with your wife! She should get with the program ." She doesn't want to go near my guns and refuses to learn how to use them." How bout learning the basics? Unload & make safe? She doesn't have to like them or want to use them but if there are firearms in the household, she needs to take some responsibility for the sake of everyones safety.



I had a talk with her yesterday and she finally agreed, but she wants something smaller than my G17.  So I'll try to see if I can find something small, cheap and deadly at this weekend's gunshow.

any suggestions??
3/17/2005 2:54:35 PM EDT
[#35]
my girlfriend is about 115lbs small body type and small palms. so I bought her a G26 and it's fit perfectly in her hand.  hope this help.. good luck..
3/17/2005 4:13:34 PM EDT
[#36]
Maybe a lady Smith & Wesson?
3/17/2005 4:14:51 PM EDT
[#37]

Quoted:
my girlfriend is about 115lbs small body type and small palms. so I bought her a G26 and it's fit perfectly in her hand.  hope this help.. good luck..



thanks for the recommendation, but I think another glock is out of the question for us right now.  Especially since it's something she would shoot maybe a few times or once a year.  

I saw a beretta tomcat 32 acp, something like that, but $350 was still too much to me.  Is there any small decent carry/conceal gun I can get used for maybe less than $200?  Something that's at least 25 acp caliber size.
3/17/2005 4:33:02 PM EDT
[#38]
Try to look at the 380's, the used ones here in MI are going for $100 -$150 and it is a lady gun.
3/17/2005 4:40:21 PM EDT
[#39]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I feel sorry for your problems there, but a dog would be a great addition to yout household. If you slept thru someone entering your house, what could have happened if he found you before you have fully awakened?
I think you should also have a talk with your wife! She should get with the program ." She doesn't want to go near my guns and refuses to learn how to use them." How bout learning the basics? Unload & make safe? She doesn't have to like them or want to use them but if there are firearms in the household, she needs to take some responsibility for the sake of everyones safety.



I had a talk with her yesterday and she finally agreed, but she wants something smaller than my G17.  So I'll try to see if I can find something small, cheap and deadly at this weekend's gunshow.

any suggestions??



Buy her some pepper spray
3/17/2005 5:09:01 PM EDT
[#40]
Not that I'll ever discourage someone from buying a new gun.  But it seems that this is money best spent on, or saved for a safe.  Or a dog.  If she's not going to shoot it often, and if she won't carry it, why not just have her shoot the Glock 17?  Recoil from a 9mm Glock is nothing.  JMHO.  
3/17/2005 5:32:16 PM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:
Not that I'll ever discourage someone from buying a new gun.  But it seems that this is money best spent on, or saved for a safe.  Or a dog.  If she's not going to shoot it often, and if she won't carry it, why not just have her shoot the Glock 17?  Recoil from a 9mm Glock is nothing.  JMHO.  



yes, I'm going to get a large gun safe for my graduation present from her rich lawyer sister.  So this is coming in a couple of months, and my AR will be close by at my sister's house.  But for the time being she says she wants something small she can grab quickly if need be in the house.  She works during the day and stays home at night with our daughter, I'm almost always out late at school finishing up.  This is what she's scared of because she knows I'm not home until late.  Pepper spray can work, but may not be that effective.  I'll definately show her how to fire the G17, but not sure if she'll like it that much, it's kind of big for her hands.  Thanks for the suggestions.
3/18/2005 6:24:34 AM EDT
[#42]
damn i live on the other end of 249 by 45.


i have a 27, though it kicks a little more she could see if it fits her. this is my carry peice.


my friends wife carries a keltec .380. very small and i think it was around $200-300, its a lil snappy though but does the job.

i went with my friend and his wife to look for her ccw so i got to handle a lot of pocket guns and have to say the one that i liked most was a naa .380 nice solid pistol. it was all metal not plastic or whatever, dont know how it shoots though but i did read an article about it in a few magazines compared to the keltec. both had their pros and cons.


i would try and look for something in .380 seems like a nice round.

im going to try and make it out to carters sunday, hopefully.
3/18/2005 9:45:29 AM EDT
[#43]
Yeah, I'm going to the Pasadena show tomorrow to see what they have, maybe a nice used .380 for under 200.  

I'll probably be at Carter's after 3 p.m.
3/18/2005 7:26:03 PM EDT
[#44]
Buy a damn flashlight for the nightstand. You can't shoot what you can't see. A Surefire G2 is less than $30.00
3/19/2005 5:29:07 AM EDT
[#45]
He got  your keys. Change your locks and use them.
3/20/2005 3:09:00 AM EDT
[#46]
All black people are not criminals and have shitty families.I am sorry for what happened to you but it could have been an "Over 6 foot tall WHITE male" as well.And all black families are not looking to sue you.I myself live in VA and just bought a new car.Within 2 months I was hit by 2 white people.First time my vehicle had minor scratches on it.I did not fake an injury nor did I even ask for payment for the scratches caused to my new vehicle.Second incident was just yesterday.Mom in mini van decided to back out with out watching where she was going and BOOM dented my car.I flew into a rage inside my car then calmed myself and got out and asked if mom was ok then checked my car for damage.Found damage to be a minor dent and scratch and said have a good day and rolled out.My wife and 2 year old was in the car during both incidents and never once did they convince me to sue.My glock 17 was  on the seat next to me and my AR was in the trunk.Never did I think to murder death kill mom who hit me.Please do not hate the majority due to the minorities bad habits.I am not defending said "Black male" because I would have wet his T shirt in your position as well.Just my 2 cent
3/20/2005 11:50:51 AM EDT
[#47]

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All black people are not criminals and have shitty families.I am sorry for what happened to you but it could have been an "Over 6 foot tall WHITE male" as well.And all black families are not looking to sue you.I myself live in VA and just bought a new car.Within 2 months I was hit by 2 white people.First time my vehicle had minor scratches on it.I did not fake an injury nor did I even ask for payment for the scratches caused to my new vehicle.Second incident was just yesterday.Mom in mini van decided to back out with out watching where she was going and BOOM dented my car.I flew into a rage inside my car then calmed myself and got out and asked if mom was ok then checked my car for damage.Found damage to be a minor dent and scratch and said have a good day and rolled out.My wife and 2 year old was in the car during both incidents and never once did they convince me to sue.My glock 17 was  on the seat next to me and my AR was in the trunk.Never did I think to murder death kill mom who hit me.Please do not hate the majority due to the minorities bad habits.I am not defending said "Black male" because I would have wet his T shirt in your position as well.Just my 2 cent




Who said all black people are like that? I happen to know some very fine people who are good friends of mine and they are various colors shapes and sizes. I livin Utah and refer to drunk cowboys causing trouble all the time as well as stupid white sepremos from Idaho and I do not consider all whites trash. They are white and I am white. A description is a description. Don't wear a chip on your shoulder.
3/21/2005 1:24:59 AM EDT
[#48]
LOCK YOUR DOORS!

I purchased a sentry safe from walmart.  It has a dial lock on it and I belive it is to heavy for one person to life and carry it out of the house.

This gets me thinking.  I always have my bedroom door shut and locked and keep my glock 26 close by.  I hope I hear a break in.  They'd have to either pick my lock (unlikely) or break a window or the door down though.