Posted: 10/4/2014 8:42:07 PM EDT
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Go with the Glock or something else? |
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Back to the original question...
I have used the Glock extended slide stop on all of my carry pieces. It's not obtrusive in size, but is large enough to assist my small hands to reach it. I don't use it as a slide release though, I've always slingshot the slide. Got into that habit early and it's automatic for me. That whole muscle memory thing: if you do something thousands of times, you can do it without thought under stress. Perfect practice makes perfect. Choose what works for you and master it. |
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That's actually a slide lock and shouldn't be used as a release. Power stroke or sling shot the slide instead. Yeah well...that's bullshit. I bet you heard that from a "tier one operator" Bet they had a tattoo and everything. OP..the glock part works great. |
| Vickers seems to have quite a following. But...ask yourself this, do you really NEED an extended slide stop/release? Just my opinion so take it with a grain of salt, but...manipulating the slide stop/release is more of an administrative function (i.e., locking the slide open to clear a weapon, etc.) versus a combat manipulation (i.e., sending the slide back into battery after reloading) where manipulating the slide is much more feasible under stress. Therefore, what advantage does an extended slide stop/release serve (if it would more likely be manipulated as and administrative action, that is)? Not trying to sway you in either direction or piss in your cheerios. Just offering a different viewpoint. Or perhaps is it something just as simple as having more purchase on the thing when trying to manipulate it? |
| Slide manipulation in fine as long as one has two working hands for the job, but what happens if one hand is out of commission? I try to have shooters work with using the slide manipulation but also be familiar with using the slide lock/release. Train as you would fight! I also found that there are times when the hands are not in the proper position that the shooter 'might' engage the slide lock(extended type) when they do not intend to. Again, it goes down to 'training'! |
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Vickers seems to have quite a following. But...ask yourself this, do you really NEED an extended slide stop/release? Just my opinion so take it with a grain of salt, but...manipulating the slide stop/release is more of an administrative function (i.e., locking the slide open to clear a weapon, etc.) versus a combat manipulation (i.e., sending the slide back into battery after reloading) where manipulating the slide is much more feasible under stress. Therefore, what advantage does an extended slide stop/release serve (if it would more likely be manipulated as and administrative action, that is)? Not trying to sway you in either direction or piss in your cheerios. Just offering a different viewpoint. Or perhaps is it something just as simple as having more purchase on the thing when trying to manipulate it? Why do people still believe this? It's been proven time and again that "under stress" you can easily do it if you've had a decent amount of practice. It's no harder than hitting the magazine release, or the bolt release on an AR. The "fine motor skills" argument is junk science. |
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Lol...it's a slide stop and a slide release...you should use it however you want?! There's nothing wrong with using it as a slide release if you want...whatever you're quicker and most proficient with. well, I must have been doing it wrong for the past 8 years then, with no ill effects. |
| I use the factory Glock extended slide releases on all of mine. I'm left handed, so I don't have any problems with riding the slide stop and causing it not to lock open when empty. I've shot with several right handed guys who preferred standard slide releases for that reason. |
| I have the Ghost slide release installed on both my G19 that I use for EDC and my G17. It works pretty well for me and my particular handicap. I'm left-handed and am missing the tip of my trigger finger, and the Ghost makes it really easy for me to either lock or release the slide. |
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Why do people still believe this? It's been proven time and again that "under stress" you can easily do it if you've had a decent amount of practice. It's no harder than hitting the magazine release, or the bolt release on an AR. The "fine motor skills" argument is junk science. Quoted:
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Vickers seems to have quite a following. But...ask yourself this, do you really NEED an extended slide stop/release? Just my opinion so take it with a grain of salt, but...manipulating the slide stop/release is more of an administrative function (i.e., locking the slide open to clear a weapon, etc.) versus a combat manipulation (i.e., sending the slide back into battery after reloading) where manipulating the slide is much more feasible under stress. Therefore, what advantage does an extended slide stop/release serve (if it would more likely be manipulated as and administrative action, that is)? Not trying to sway you in either direction or piss in your cheerios. Just offering a different viewpoint. Or perhaps is it something just as simple as having more purchase on the thing when trying to manipulate it? Why do people still believe this? It's been proven time and again that "under stress" you can easily do it if you've had a decent amount of practice. It's no harder than hitting the magazine release, or the bolt release on an AR. The "fine motor skills" argument is junk science. This. Can you pull a trigger? Can you press the magazine release? Why practice a technique that requires two hands (slingshot, overhand, etc.) when one hand might be injured or busy? |
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well, I must have been doing it wrong for the past 8 years then, with no ill effects. Quoted:
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Lol...it's a slide stop and a slide release...you should use it however you want?! There's nothing wrong with using it as a slide release if you want...whatever you're quicker and most proficient with. well, I must have been doing it wrong for the past 8 years then, with no ill effects. Who said you were doing it wrong? Not me, I said do it however you want?? Not sure I get your point??? |
| Mags filled to capacity always need a "smack" to seat properly if the extended slide release is contacting mags and preventing them from seating theres a problem...mine makes no contact but with the slide forward the mag needs to get a slap to seat.Try putting in a mag with the slide locked back and see if its making contact.Also 10 round mags are real stiff when new. |
