Posted: 5/9/2014 3:27:48 PM EDT
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I've been reading about the Glocok 19 gen 4 having issues with the extractor and jams. Anyhow I know they been our for awhile but I was wondering if they were still having issues with them as I am going to try to purchase one in the coming weeks. Would get a full size 17 but think it'd be to big.
I plan on trying to make this my CCW/EDC weapon. Much as I prefer a Glock I am also open to other suggestions, any insight would be much appreciated. Ive been reading the other thread which someone is talking about also, but I'm still on the edge of buying it. |
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Thanks. Also what would be a good holster for it, I have thought of maybe using a IWB holster but am not sure if it would be the best. I read someplace that the kydex IWB holster is good. Kydex allows for an easy reholster because the Kydex won't collapse like leather IWB. Leather will occupy more real estate IWB because it has to be over-molded to allow for stitching. Kydex is be molded around the gun and in some cases folded allowing for an overall reduction in size. Also, typically a thinner leather holster means it is flimsier. Kydex - even the thinner Kydex - retains its shape after the gun is drawn. If you go OWB, wear well fitting jeans/pants with a higher waist. You want that gun tight against your side. Loose fitting jeans will start to sag when the weight of a gun and reload is added, but they are great for IWB. |
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See my earlier answer to a similar question, here: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_5_4/149556_Glock_Gen4_9mm_s.html&page=1&anc=bottom#bottom
I've, probably, got more holsters in my, 'holster barrel' than I've got money in the bank. ('Bank' is now a synonym for, 'gas thank'!) 
Know what! I, too, find myself using an inexpensive Blackhawk, SERPA, CQC, paddle holster. I know the trigger guard lock will bind the pistol inside the holster if you immerse this holster in mud; but I don't crawl around on my hands and knees; so, in the 4 years that I've been using a SERPA holster, I haven't had a problem. I practice a lot; and I've, also, found the SERPA holster to be as fast as it needs to be. The only other thing I'll add is that you need to keep your trigger finger, 'arrow straight' on the draw; but THIS is basic handgunning #101; so I haven't had a problem here, either. |
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Also what would be a good holster for it, I have thought of maybe using a IWB holster but am not sure if it would be the best. Don Hume |
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Sorry for the late reply. I've been busy past few days.
I will most definitely check out the kydex holster IWB, is there a "favorite one" that most people use? Looking at this one - Holster I have to see if I can get some stuff in order and will definitely get a G19 edited to fix link |
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Look at this one, too:
http://www.safariland.com/DutyGear/product.aspx?pid=6378 |
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The G-17 ALS holster will, of course, also fit the G-19. Here's a few more G-19 specific ALS holsters:
http://www.safariland.com/DutyGear/product.aspx?pid=6378USN http://www.amazon.com/Safariland-Concealment-Paddle-Holster-Finish/dp/B005BNI6DE http://dsgarms.com/safariland-6378-als-glock-19-23-holster (There are plenty of others! Google: 'Safariland, 6378, Glock Model 19', and they'll come up.) |
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I stopped by the place to look and ask a few more questions and a customer and I started talking and he carries a Ruger LCP .380. The guy behind the counter had one in stock and I kinda like it. I can fit it in my pocket and also palm the thing. Feels like a freaken water pistol though.
I may just do what Arfcomers do and get both...glock 17 or 19 and also get the Ruger. Ruger I like due to it being more concealable though. |
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I stopped by the place to look and ask a few more questions and a customer and I started talking and he carries a Ruger LCP .380. The guy behind the counter had one in stock and I kinda like it. I can fit it in my pocket and also palm the thing. Feels like a freaken water pistol though. I may just do what Arfcomers do and get both...glock 17 or 19 and also get the Ruger. Ruger I like due to it being more concealable though. I carried an LCP for 3 years and put probably 300 rounds through it with no issues. It is not fun to shoot, but it is a reliable little pistol that conceals exceptionally well. I replaced it with a Glock 42, which I LOVE, but there's still a place for the LCP. I may pick up another at some point. The newer ones have better sights. Mine, by the way, was a first year LCP that was fixed under recall. Never had one single issue with it. Great gun. |
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Thats the first thing I thought of when I saw how small it was, recoil management and follow up shots.
I do love how small it is and can fit in the palm of my hand, I also was thinking of how hard the ammo is to find. I also have never shot an .380 before so this would be a new caliber for me. What you think of the G42 and printing and how was the recoil with the lcp and such? |
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The first few Gen 4 had the issues due to the spring, Glock replaced the ones that had the issues. I've had my G19 Gen 4 for a year and I've never had an issue with it, I waited until the issues were fixed since I had read about it. It's very unlikely you'll find one with the spring issues, if you do im sure Glock won't hesitate to replace it.
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Well, right now I'm thinking of getting either the G26 or the Ruger LCP. I may just do the G17 or 19 and get the LCP. LCP I love just cus I can wear shorts with it.
The 19 and LCP are the top contenders right now... What bothers me is how short the ammo supply is with all handguns still, to bad I cant carry a damn shotgun I can buy that for penneys it seems around here. Anyone have other ideas for concealed? |
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Well, right now I'm thinking of getting either the G26 or the Ruger LCP. I may just do the G17 or 19 and get the LCP. LCP I love just cus I can wear shorts with it. The 19 and LCP are the top contenders right now... What bothers me is how short the ammo supply is with all handguns still, to bad I cant carry a damn shotgun I can buy that for penneys it seems around here. Anyone have other ideas for concealed? Sounds like you are looking for a gun to pocket carry? If that's the case, the 19 is out the question. However, if by wearing shorts you just mean cargo shorts...you can easily conceal the 19 with a good holster wearing shorts. lol |
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Sounds like you are looking for a gun to pocket carry? If that's the case, the 19 is out the question. However, if by wearing shorts you just mean cargo shorts...you can easily conceal the 19 with a good holster wearing shorts. lol Quoted:
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Well, right now I'm thinking of getting either the G26 or the Ruger LCP. I may just do the G17 or 19 and get the LCP. LCP I love just cus I can wear shorts with it. The 19 and LCP are the top contenders right now... What bothers me is how short the ammo supply is with all handguns still, to bad I cant carry a damn shotgun I can buy that for penneys it seems around here. Anyone have other ideas for concealed? Sounds like you are looking for a gun to pocket carry? If that's the case, the 19 is out the question. However, if by wearing shorts you just mean cargo shorts...you can easily conceal the 19 with a good holster wearing shorts. lol I originally was going to go with the 19 or 26, then the guy started talking about the LCP and I got to thinking of conceal-ability and the 110 degree summer heat along with weight. I may just get both and be done with the debate as I have a place for both. As for shorts I rarely wear them but when I do I do like the option. |
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I originally was going to go with the 19 or 26, then the guy started talking about the LCP and I got to thinking of conceal-ability and the 110 degree summer heat along with weight. I may just get both and be done with the debate as I have a place for both. As for shorts I rarely wear them but when I do I do like the option. Quoted:
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Well, right now I'm thinking of getting either the G26 or the Ruger LCP. I may just do the G17 or 19 and get the LCP. LCP I love just cus I can wear shorts with it. The 19 and LCP are the top contenders right now... What bothers me is how short the ammo supply is with all handguns still, to bad I cant carry a damn shotgun I can buy that for penneys it seems around here. Anyone have other ideas for concealed? Sounds like you are looking for a gun to pocket carry? If that's the case, the 19 is out the question. However, if by wearing shorts you just mean cargo shorts...you can easily conceal the 19 with a good holster wearing shorts. lol I originally was going to go with the 19 or 26, then the guy started talking about the LCP and I got to thinking of conceal-ability and the 110 degree summer heat along with weight. I may just get both and be done with the debate as I have a place for both. As for shorts I rarely wear them but when I do I do like the option. IMO it's kind of ridiculous to have to choose one over the other. The 19 (or 26) and LCP are two guns that are not alike in any way shape or form. Like comparing a motorcycle to a 4x4 truck. lol |
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True, which is why I'm leaning twords both as both (LCP and G19) both have places. Yep. I too am looking for a gun to pocket carry. I like to run in the afternoons and find myself in gym shorts pretty often. I need a gun to pocket carry, I just haven't eliminated any of the many good choices out yet so I don't know which I'm going to get yet. I like the LCP 380, however, ammunition cost and availability in that cartridge makes me want to shy away from it and go with something in 9mm. |
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I figure with a hole or two of any size if there not on drugs the'll turn and run... Anyhow with a fully loaded 19 I think itd start to hold its weight at the end of the day if why I looking at the LCP a mouse gun.
YES YES YES the ammo coast is why I keep leaving to the 26 or 19, here its at lest twice as much for a 100 round and if its the same coast then there out. Either the 380 is in and 9mm is out or vis versa. And Cabalas IMO runs a racketeering business here, either go and get ignored or go and get money taken for walking thru the door 
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I figure with a hole or two of any size if there not on drugs the'll turn and run... Anyhow with a fully loaded 19 I think itd start to hold its weight at the end of the day if why I looking at the LCP a mouse gun. YES YES YES the ammo coast is why I keep leaving to the 26 or 19, here its at lest twice as much for a 100 round and if its the same coast then there out. Either the 380 is in and 9mm is out or vis versa. And Cabalas IMO runs a racketeering business here, either go and get ignored or go and get money taken for walking thru the door
I carry my 19 primarily. I use a White Hat holster and have no problems concealing it very comfortably. I've found myself many days carrying it 8-10 hours it it doesn't start getting heavy or uncomfortable. All about a good holster with a good belt. But yeah, 380 ammo is stupid. WHEN it can be found around here it's usually $20+/box for 50 rounds and that's just for FMJ/ball range ammo. Defense ammo in 380 is a whole other level of retarded with the prices. That's effing nuts for that little ass round. That's what .45ACP goes for. |
| I'm only 5/4 and 150 pounds, not much of a waist and I'm not sure if I could conceal an 19 even a 26 since there double stacks on an IWB holster easily with my shirt tucked in yet hanging loose. Both of which I'm willing to try out in the CC department and if they don't work put them in a BOB or EDC bag and shoot to keep practice. 380 is better then nothing, then again so is a knife but I don't relish hand to hand much. I figure if I do marry my girlfriend and when or if she gets a CC I could pawn something off on her also. |
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I'm only 5/4 and 150 pounds, not much of a waist and I'm not sure if I could conceal an 19 even a 26 since there double stacks on an IWB holster easily with my shirt tucked in yet hanging loose. Both of which I'm willing to try out in the CC department and if they don't work put them in a BOB or EDC bag and shoot to keep practice. 380 is better then nothing, then again so is a knife but I don't relish hand to hand much. I figure if I do marry my girlfriend and when or if she gets a CC I could pawn something off on her also. I'm 6ft and 200 lbs so I guess that helps. lol |
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i was talking to a guy the other day, his not much bigger then I and carries a full size 1911 on a shoulder rig
Much as I like to do that it sounds like a winter thing for me, having a full size g17. Open carry is always an option if it's legal in your state and something you're down for. Sometimes I just don't feel like CC'ing and just open carry. Particularly if I will be driving a lot. 4:30 carry is great for sitting and standing, but driving can get uncomfortable (to me) as it tends to hit your seat belt buckle and crap. |
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I am considering it, but I don't like the option of being the first target or marking myself as one.
Also the BS mentality of people now days thinking of "guns" as a bad thing and seeing someone with an open carrying, I dunno. Though in my state on July 1st we will be legally allowed to open carry. |
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I am considering it, but I don't like the option of being the first target or marking myself as one. Also the BS mentality of people now days thinking of "guns" as a bad thing and seeing someone with an open carrying, I dunno. Though in my state on July 1st we will be legally allowed to open carry. Luckily for me, no one even looks twice at someone open carrying guns here in Louisiana. Guns are ingrained in the culture here, and the very few people who aren't gun owners still don't think anything about it seeing someone open carry. Most people assume I'm a police officer or something. A lot of them have no idea that open carry is legal here even without a concealed carry permit. |
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Kansas here. Though the neighborhood I live in has gone to the wayside a lot it seems in the past 10 years.
Here I just feel firearms have been demonized so much and media doesn't help the situation either. Its another reason I wanted something I could easily conceal. |
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Well, I pulled the trigger on the LCP but I got a small problem with a magazine. It wont lock in place. I got two other magazines for it but this one wont lock while the two others do. If it's a factory Ruger mag giving you issues I'm sure Ruger won't have a problem replacing it for ya. |
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Thanks. Also what would be a good holster for it, I have thought of maybe using a IWB holster but am not sure if it would be the best. I read someplace that the kydex IWB holster is good. Currently using a comptac Mtac IWB holster. My buddy uses one of the incog AIWB holsters. AIWB is a much faster draw so i have one on my long list of accessories to buy down the road. Crossbreed makes a good IWB too. |