Posted: 4/23/2014 10:27:30 AM EDT
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I'm frickin excited! The first Glock I ever shot was a 19 years ago and I knew I found my calling with handguns. I've never shot any other pistol I've ever handled better than Glocks. After having my 19 for a while now, I decided to add another Glock to the family and ordered a Gen 4 34 today.
I know we could probably go on for days as far as talking sites, but what are some good, accurate sites for the Glock 34? Any other cool upgrades to look into without taking away from the amazing Glock reliability? |
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Are the factory adjustable sites bad? Yes. Take them off and throw them away. Mine has Warren Tactical "Sevigny" sights, and I love them. I have a complete Ghost trigger setup (3.5 connector, trigger spring, striker spring) and Glockworx striker safety plunger and spring in it as well. I had a Glockworx Fulcrum Ultimate Kit in it, but I decided to return it to IDPA SSP legal configuration. I also swapped from a Grip Force Adapter to the factory medium beavertail backstrap. |
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Yes. Take them off and throw them away. Mine has Warren Tactical "Sevigny" sights, and I love them. I have a complete Ghost trigger setup (3.5 connector, trigger spring, striker spring) and Glockworx striker safety plunger and spring in it as well. I had a Glockworx Fulcrum Ultimate Kit in it, but I decided to return it to IDPA SSP legal configuration. I also swapped from a Grip Force Adapter to the factory medium beavertail backstrap. Quoted:
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Are the factory adjustable sites bad? Yes. Take them off and throw them away. Mine has Warren Tactical "Sevigny" sights, and I love them. I have a complete Ghost trigger setup (3.5 connector, trigger spring, striker spring) and Glockworx striker safety plunger and spring in it as well. I had a Glockworx Fulcrum Ultimate Kit in it, but I decided to return it to IDPA SSP legal configuration. I also swapped from a Grip Force Adapter to the factory medium beavertail backstrap. Do aftermarket trigger bars and stuff like that take away from the reliability of the gun? |
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Quoted: Do aftermarket trigger bars and stuff like that take away from the reliability of the gun? Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Are the factory adjustable sites bad? Yes. Take them off and throw them away. Mine has Warren Tactical "Sevigny" sights, and I love them. I have a complete Ghost trigger setup (3.5 connector, trigger spring, striker spring) and Glockworx striker safety plunger and spring in it as well. I had a Glockworx Fulcrum Ultimate Kit in it, but I decided to return it to IDPA SSP legal configuration. I also swapped from a Grip Force Adapter to the factory medium beavertail backstrap. Do aftermarket trigger bars and stuff like that take away from the reliability of the gun? Generally I would say no. If you lighten the striker springs you can have issues setting off hard primers. The zev striker is supposed to help with that. I'm guessing that poster wanted to be able to shoot the pistol in matches which have rules about what parts can be modified.
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I'm frickin excited! The first Glock I ever shot was a 19 years ago and I knew I found my calling with handguns. I've never shot any other pistol I've ever handled better than Glocks. After having my 19 for a while now, I decided to add another Glock to the family and ordered a Gen 4 34 today. I know we could probably go on for days as far as talking sites, but what are some good, accurate sites for the Glock 34? Any other cool upgrades to look into without taking away from the amazing Glock reliability? I got tired of waiting for one to pop up and grabbed a 35. I love it. I will have a 34 also. You wont be sorry you bought it. |
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Do aftermarket trigger bars and stuff like that take away from the reliability of the gun? Quoted:
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Are the factory adjustable sites bad? Yes. Take them off and throw them away. Mine has Warren Tactical "Sevigny" sights, and I love them. I have a complete Ghost trigger setup (3.5 connector, trigger spring, striker spring) and Glockworx striker safety plunger and spring in it as well. I had a Glockworx Fulcrum Ultimate Kit in it, but I decided to return it to IDPA SSP legal configuration. I also swapped from a Grip Force Adapter to the factory medium beavertail backstrap. Do aftermarket trigger bars and stuff like that take away from the reliability of the gun? The only trouble I've had is with hard primers. My stock guns have issues with the same ammo, but the "failure rate" is higher with the guns that have aftermarket striker springs. Only 1500 more rounds of it to go... 
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What made you go with the Gen 4? Just curious. I shot a Gen 3 and Gen 4 side by side and the 3's trigger felt better so thats what I went with. Much better mag release, and I find the grip texture works much better for me. I hate the grip force adaptor and run my G34 with no blackstrap, I can really get a good grip on the gun. They changed the internals a touch and the connector is slightly different, thus the generally slightly worse trigger pull. I have the glock '-' connector, extra power trigger return spring, reduced power plunger spring and some internal polishing to the plunger face and a couple other places. Just passed 15k and it runs like a champ with a smooth trigger pull. |
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The only trouble I've had is with hard primers. My stock guns have issues with the same ammo, but the "failure rate" is higher with the guns that have aftermarket striker springs. Only 1500 more rounds of it to go... Quoted:
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Are the factory adjustable sites bad? Yes. Take them off and throw them away. Mine has Warren Tactical "Sevigny" sights, and I love them. I have a complete Ghost trigger setup (3.5 connector, trigger spring, striker spring) and Glockworx striker safety plunger and spring in it as well. I had a Glockworx Fulcrum Ultimate Kit in it, but I decided to return it to IDPA SSP legal configuration. I also swapped from a Grip Force Adapter to the factory medium beavertail backstrap. Do aftermarket trigger bars and stuff like that take away from the reliability of the gun? The only trouble I've had is with hard primers. My stock guns have issues with the same ammo, but the "failure rate" is higher with the guns that have aftermarket striker springs. Only 1500 more rounds of it to go... Mine flat out wouldnt run and had a 50% failure rate with the reduced striker spring, plus I just didn't like the trigger pull. I went back to stock and like the firmer reset. |
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Much better mag release, and I find the grip texture works much better for me. I hate the grip force adaptor and run my G34 with no blackstrap, I can really get a good grip on the gun. They changed the internals a touch and the connector is slightly different, thus the generally slightly worse trigger pull. I have the glock '-' connector, extra power trigger return spring, reduced power plunger spring and some internal polishing to the plunger face and a couple other places. Just passed 15k and it runs like a champ with a smooth trigger pull. Quoted:
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What made you go with the Gen 4? Just curious. I shot a Gen 3 and Gen 4 side by side and the 3's trigger felt better so thats what I went with. Much better mag release, and I find the grip texture works much better for me. I hate the grip force adaptor and run my G34 with no blackstrap, I can really get a good grip on the gun. They changed the internals a touch and the connector is slightly different, thus the generally slightly worse trigger pull. I have the glock '-' connector, extra power trigger return spring, reduced power plunger spring and some internal polishing to the plunger face and a couple other places. Just passed 15k and it runs like a champ with a smooth trigger pull. One thing I was definitely planning to do is upgrade to the titanium plunger, it supposedly helps with the first bit of the trigger pull correct? I kind of wantes to do something with the trigger as well, but after hearing everyone say it messes with reliability I'm hesitant now. |
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One thing I was definitely planning to do is upgrade to the titanium plunger, it supposedly helps with the first bit of the trigger pull correct? I kind of wantes to do something with the trigger as well, but after hearing everyone say it messes with reliability I'm hesitant now. Quoted:
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What made you go with the Gen 4? Just curious. I shot a Gen 3 and Gen 4 side by side and the 3's trigger felt better so thats what I went with. Much better mag release, and I find the grip texture works much better for me. I hate the grip force adaptor and run my G34 with no blackstrap, I can really get a good grip on the gun. They changed the internals a touch and the connector is slightly different, thus the generally slightly worse trigger pull. I have the glock '-' connector, extra power trigger return spring, reduced power plunger spring and some internal polishing to the plunger face and a couple other places. Just passed 15k and it runs like a champ with a smooth trigger pull. One thing I was definitely planning to do is upgrade to the titanium plunger, it supposedly helps with the first bit of the trigger pull correct? I kind of wantes to do something with the trigger as well, but after hearing everyone say it messes with reliability I'm hesitant now. From the measurements I've taken on my guns, the aftermarket plungers and springs take about half a pound off the trigger pull. That is with both Lightning Strikes and Glockworx. |
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From the measurements I've taken on my guns, the aftermarket plungers and springs take about half a pound off the trigger pull. That is with both Lightning Strikes and Glockworx. Quoted:
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What made you go with the Gen 4? Just curious. I shot a Gen 3 and Gen 4 side by side and the 3's trigger felt better so thats what I went with. Much better mag release, and I find the grip texture works much better for me. I hate the grip force adaptor and run my G34 with no blackstrap, I can really get a good grip on the gun. They changed the internals a touch and the connector is slightly different, thus the generally slightly worse trigger pull. I have the glock '-' connector, extra power trigger return spring, reduced power plunger spring and some internal polishing to the plunger face and a couple other places. Just passed 15k and it runs like a champ with a smooth trigger pull. One thing I was definitely planning to do is upgrade to the titanium plunger, it supposedly helps with the first bit of the trigger pull correct? I kind of wantes to do something with the trigger as well, but after hearing everyone say it messes with reliability I'm hesitant now. From the measurements I've taken on my guns, the aftermarket plungers and springs take about half a pound off the trigger pull. That is with both Lightning Strikes and Glockworx. Wow not bad at all for a ~$30 upgrade. Might be the only upgrade I do besides sites. I think I'm just going to leave the trigger assembly alone. I want to be able to shoot all sorts of ammo with it so I don't want to deal with light primer strikes. |
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A competition trigger spring is also cheap (about $6 I think?) and does not change the force the striker hits the primer with. Probably makes another half pound difference, but I haven't measured it to see. Cool, I'll look into that. I saw people talking about the "25 cent trigger job (polish)" as well. It's supposed to make the pull a lot smoother. Some say it makes a noticeable difference and some say it's a waste of time. What's you guys' thoughts on that? |
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The trigger parts polish definitely makes a difference!
(remember to clean everything off and lightly relube.) - I was hesitant at 1st to do it (a long time ago) but then realized all the top gunsmith's do it, 'rock your Glock' AGI video does it, team Glock likes polished internals, and most aftermarket triggers are polished as well... if you're still timid, just use a Qtip <<< wont be able to mess anything up!
Good luck, and congrats! I'd like a Gen4 G34 someday; gorgeous guns! |
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Cool, I'll look into that. I saw people talking about the "25 cent trigger job (polish)" as well. It's supposed to make the pull a lot smoother. Some say it makes a noticeable difference and some say it's a waste of time. What's you guys' thoughts on that? Quoted:
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A competition trigger spring is also cheap (about $6 I think?) and does not change the force the striker hits the primer with. Probably makes another half pound difference, but I haven't measured it to see. Cool, I'll look into that. I saw people talking about the "25 cent trigger job (polish)" as well. It's supposed to make the pull a lot smoother. Some say it makes a noticeable difference and some say it's a waste of time. What's you guys' thoughts on that? It only takes like 15min to do, so you might as well. Worst case, you don't notice a difference. Best case, it gets a bit smoother/consistent. I didn't think it was a waste of time. |
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It only takes like 15min to do, so you might as well. Worst case, you don't notice a difference. Best case, it gets a bit smoother/consistent. I didn't think it was a waste of time. Quoted:
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A competition trigger spring is also cheap (about $6 I think?) and does not change the force the striker hits the primer with. Probably makes another half pound difference, but I haven't measured it to see. Cool, I'll look into that. I saw people talking about the "25 cent trigger job (polish)" as well. It's supposed to make the pull a lot smoother. Some say it makes a noticeable difference and some say it's a waste of time. What's you guys' thoughts on that? It only takes like 15min to do, so you might as well. Worst case, you don't notice a difference. Best case, it gets a bit smoother/consistent. I didn't think it was a waste of time. Yeah, kind of what I was thinking, but I wasn't gonna sit there and take it all apart if it doesn't do anything. But I just ordered the competition trigger spring which is supposed to reduce pull by a pound. I figured between that and if the polishing makes the pull any smoother - that should be good for me. I don't plan to shoot competitions or anything with the gun anyway. Now I'm just trying to decide on sights. Right now I'm leaning towards Dawson Precision. |
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Vickers Tactical Glock Magazine Baseplates are a nice upgrade http://www.redstatetactical.com/TangoDown-Vickers-Tactical-Glock-Magazine-Baseplates-5-Pack_p_164.html |
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Yeah, kind of what I was thinking, but I wasn't gonna sit there and take it all apart if it doesn't do anything. But I just ordered the competition trigger spring which is supposed to reduce pull by a pound. I figured between that and if the polishing makes the pull any smoother - that should be good for me. I don't plan to shoot competitions or anything with the gun anyway. Now I'm just trying to decide on sights. Right now I'm leaning towards Dawson Precision. Yeah, you're going to have all of the parts out anyways to swap the spring so you might as well fire the Dremel up and polish the contact surfaces up quickly. |
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Yeah, you're going to have all of the parts out anyways to swap the spring so you might as well fire the Dremel up and polish the contact surfaces up quickly. Quoted:
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Yeah, kind of what I was thinking, but I wasn't gonna sit there and take it all apart if it doesn't do anything. But I just ordered the competition trigger spring which is supposed to reduce pull by a pound. I figured between that and if the polishing makes the pull any smoother - that should be good for me. I don't plan to shoot competitions or anything with the gun anyway. Now I'm just trying to decide on sights. Right now I'm leaning towards Dawson Precision. Yeah, you're going to have all of the parts out anyways to swap the spring so you might as well fire the Dremel up and polish the contact surfaces up quickly. Yep. Exactly what I was thinking. 
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I just got a new gen 4 g34 recently. I never liked the glock grip but for some reason the gen 4 works for me with no back straps. Put a zev standard trigger kit with the overtravel ejector and zev connector. Did the polish job to the new parts and put a Jager captured guide rod with 13lb spring in it. The gun shoots awesome and the trigger is pretty badass. The pretravel and overtravel along with pull are reduced a lot. I think this will be the start of a couple glocks to come
Edit also have the warren sevigny fiber front and solid rear, and the combo is awesome |
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From the measurements I've taken on my guns, the aftermarket plungers and springs take about half a pound off the trigger pull. That is with both Lightning Strikes and Glockworx. Quoted:
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What made you go with the Gen 4? Just curious. I shot a Gen 3 and Gen 4 side by side and the 3's trigger felt better so thats what I went with. Much better mag release, and I find the grip texture works much better for me. I hate the grip force adaptor and run my G34 with no blackstrap, I can really get a good grip on the gun. They changed the internals a touch and the connector is slightly different, thus the generally slightly worse trigger pull. I have the glock '-' connector, extra power trigger return spring, reduced power plunger spring and some internal polishing to the plunger face and a couple other places. Just passed 15k and it runs like a champ with a smooth trigger pull. One thing I was definitely planning to do is upgrade to the titanium plunger, it supposedly helps with the first bit of the trigger pull correct? I kind of wantes to do something with the trigger as well, but after hearing everyone say it messes with reliability I'm hesitant now. From the measurements I've taken on my guns, the aftermarket plungers and springs take about half a pound off the trigger pull. That is with both Lightning Strikes and Glockworx. I can't remember the exact name, but if you look at that vertical piece on the trigger bar that hits the plunger and the plunger itself, they both have little squared off edges that contact each other when moving. As a result, the first part of the trigger pull can have a slightly awkward "jump", if youre careful and don't go crazy, a very slight polish can radius those edges and make the initial take up much more smooth. |
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The trigger parts polish definitely makes a difference! (remember to clean everything off and lightly relube.) - I was hesitant at 1st to do it (a long time ago) but then realized all the top gunsmith's do it, 'rock your Glock' AGI video does it, team Glock likes polished internals, and most aftermarket triggers are polished as well... if you're still timid, just use a Qtip <<< wont be able to mess anything up!
Good luck, and congrats! I'd like a Gen4 G34 someday; gorgeous guns! Thanks man. How long does it take to actually polish the parts with a q tip? Seems like a pretty long process huh? lol |
Didn't even own it for 24 hours and already had to order a new plunger spring... 
I took the plunger out to polish it and apparently I didn't pay enough attention upon re installation because the gun would not return to battery if I held the trigger back and racked the slide. It would only return to battery if I released the trigger, so I knew I did something wrong. Upon taking it back apart I saw that the plunger spring managed to turn sideways in the plunger cavity. After playing with it to work it out it decided to rocket across the room and 2 hours of searching came up with nothing. So a $2 spring just costed me $40 to have it overnighted for today because I wanna shoot it this weekend. Apparently it's supposed to be held in place by the plunger itself? |
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Should have gone ahead and ordered several, and probably gone with the reduced power plunger spring. I would have maybe ordered some other spare parts while I was at it, if I was gonna drop 40 bucks on shipping.
I can't recommend using a weapon with a safety system disabled, but just for informational purposes only the weapon with fire and function without a plunger. You simply don't have the drop safe capability. |
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Should have gone ahead and ordered several, and probably gone with the reduced power plunger spring. I would have maybe ordered some other spare parts while I was at it, if I was gonna drop 40 bucks on shipping. I can't recommend using a weapon with a safety system disabled, but just for informational purposes only the weapon with fire and function without a plunger. You simply don't have the drop safe capability. Eh, looking back I could have thrown some other spare parts in the order I guess. I just didn't want any other aftermarket parts for it so I didn't even really think about it. Oh, and I got the lone wolf reduced power spring for a replacement. And that's good to know about the gun working without the saftey plunger. |
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So how does it shoot ? Amazing. Put just over 300 rounds through it yesterday and didn't have a hiccup one. Shot some Aguila, Blazer Brass, and tested 2 boxes of 124gr Gold Dots in it. All of it fed fine. As for accuracy...I don't have words. Gun is a friggin tack driver with that long sight radius paired up with the Dawson Precision sights. At 8 yards and in, I was shooting withing 1" and at closer distances putting rounds inside the other (save for some fliers). I'm absolutely in love with this gun and I fear my poor 19 may get neglected a little bit now. lol |