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1/22/2014 6:53:28 AM EDT
can someone with a G42 can take a look in the mag and see why the last round ends so far up?  it seems like there is plently of room for another round or two...
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vs a G19 mag








 
1/22/2014 8:58:22 AM EDT
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Hmmm... aftermarket mag followers???
1/22/2014 12:09:18 PM EDT
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The witness hole looks like it lines up at the top of the sixth round.
You also need room to allow for the follower and spring.
1/22/2014 2:26:56 PM EDT
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The witness hole looks like it lines up at the top of the sixth round.

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right, but why would the G42 mag need more room for the spring and follower than other Glock mags?



 
1/22/2014 4:09:40 PM EDT
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Give me a minute and I'll tear one down.
1/22/2014 4:12:52 PM EDT
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Single stack vs double?
1/22/2014 4:41:01 PM EDT
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As you can see the follower is pretty long/tall. Not sure if it was trimmed down if it would allow a 7th round. I compressed a full mag of 6 today and the 6th round never dropped passed the U notch on the back of the mag. Who knows maybe if it's trimmed it will take 7 but that could lead to feeding issues. If spare mags could be had I would trim a follow and see but since I've only got the two mags that's not happening lol.
1/22/2014 4:49:40 PM EDT
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thank you!
 
1/22/2014 4:51:29 PM EDT
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No problem
1/22/2014 5:07:14 PM EDT
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If it was close enough to shave a few thousandths off to make another round fit I don't see why that wouldn't have been done.

I'm sure someone will try it, I'm curious to see if they're able to do it without causing problems.
1/22/2014 5:11:21 PM EDT
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As you can see the follower is pretty long/tall. Not sure if it was trimmed down if it would allow a 7th round. I compressed a full mag of 6 today and the 6th round never dropped passed the U notch on the back of the mag. Who knows maybe if it's trimmed it will take 7 but that could lead to feeding issues. If spare mags could be had I would trim a follow and see but since I've only got the two mags that's not happening lol.
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They only come with 2 mags?  I thought all gen 4 came with 3 mags...
1/22/2014 5:31:17 PM EDT
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They only come with 2 mags?  I thought all gen 4 came with 3 mags...
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As you can see the follower is pretty long/tall. Not sure if it was trimmed down if it would allow a 7th round. I compressed a full mag of 6 today and the 6th round never dropped passed the U notch on the back of the mag. Who knows maybe if it's trimmed it will take 7 but that could lead to feeding issues. If spare mags could be had I would trim a follow and see but since I've only got the two mags that's not happening lol.


They only come with 2 mags?  I thought all gen 4 came with 3 mags...



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1/22/2014 5:32:28 PM EDT
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As you can see the follower is pretty long/tall. Not sure if it was trimmed down if it would allow a 7th round. I compressed a full mag of 6 today and the 6th round never dropped passed the U notch on the back of the mag. Who knows maybe if it's trimmed it will take 7 but that could lead to feeding issues. If spare mags could be had I would trim a follow and see but since I've only got the two mags that's not happening lol.
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C'mon man, take one for the team!!!  We'll pay you back, we swear!
1/22/2014 5:40:50 PM EDT
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If it was close enough to shave a few thousandths off to make another round fit I don't see why that wouldn't have been done.

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Exactly what I was thinking and I'm sure it will be done sooner than later.
1/22/2014 5:43:34 PM EDT
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As you can see the follower is pretty long/tall. Not sure if it was trimmed down if it would allow a 7th round. I compressed a full mag of 6 today and the 6th round never dropped passed the U notch on the back of the mag. Who knows maybe if it's trimmed it will take 7 but that could lead to feeding issues. If spare mags could be had I would trim a follow and see but since I've only got the two mags that's not happening lol.


They only come with 2 mags?  I thought all gen 4 came with 3 mags...




Blue label


This is a Blue label and I asked the dealer I got it from "where my third mag?". He said it's doesn't apply to the G42.
1/22/2014 5:45:01 PM EDT
[#15]
Lol I'll sleep on the idea and might play around tomorrow.
1/22/2014 6:37:18 PM EDT
[#16]
Do it.
1/22/2014 7:08:22 PM EDT
[#17]
Chances are the Blue Label version of this gun is like the G26/G27 and they only come with 2 magazines.
1/23/2014 3:45:42 AM EDT
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Isn't 380 a semi-rimmed cartridge? If so that may explain it. Different case geometry = different mag/follower geometry.
1/23/2014 5:24:39 AM EDT
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The label on the side of the box tells you how many mags came with the gun and what capacity they are. If you want to know what you should have received, read your box. If you didn't get what you should have received, contact your dealer. If they aren't helpful, contact Glock. They won't put up with dealers taking mags out of cases if you should have received them. Don't go on hearsay; read your individual box. I don't know exactly what comes with the G42, but I do know there was a time when sub-compact blue labels only came with 2 mags and that might be the case with these. If so, your box should say 2 6rnd mags.
1/23/2014 6:25:18 AM EDT
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My G42 case says two 6 round magazines.

Since it is a hot item and there is no gen 3 competition, Glock probably thought they could get away with only offering two mags.
1/23/2014 7:33:13 AM EDT
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I bought a blue label Gen 4 G26 this week, and it came with 3 mags.
1/23/2014 8:30:45 AM EDT
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I put my hands on one yesterday and REALLY liked the size/slim/glockawesomeness. If I didn't have my kahr cm9 for summer/deep carry I would probably buy one of these.
1/23/2014 9:56:01 PM EDT
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This is a Blue label and I asked the dealer I got it from "where my third mag?". He said it's doesn't apply to the G42.
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As you can see the follower is pretty long/tall. Not sure if it was trimmed down if it would allow a 7th round. I compressed a full mag of 6 today and the 6th round never dropped passed the U notch on the back of the mag. Who knows maybe if it's trimmed it will take 7 but that could lead to feeding issues. If spare mags could be had I would trim a follow and see but since I've only got the two mags that's not happening lol.


They only come with 2 mags?  I thought all gen 4 came with 3 mags...



Blue label


This is a Blue label and I asked the dealer I got it from "where my third mag?". He said it's doesn't apply to the G42.



Sorry bro, missed that.
1/24/2014 4:16:52 AM EDT
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All subcompacts regardless of gen only come with 2 mags regular blue label doesn't matter
1/24/2014 4:13:03 PM EDT
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My blue label Gen-4 G-26 came with 3 mags.

As stated above...the label on the box should state how many of what size mags you have in the box.
1/24/2014 10:20:57 PM EDT
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My Blue label G36 came with only (2) 6 round mags just as the label indicated.
I'll be picking up my G42 later today, an early Valentine's Day gift to my wife.
1/25/2014 8:11:46 AM EDT
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I wouldn't mess with the baseplate, it's actually the fully compressed spring that prevents another round from being inserted.

6 rounds inserted, lots of room, I threw in the floorplate insert for another angle


7 rounds inserted, still plenty of room for the baseplate & floorplate insert, very little to nothing left for the spring though



6 rounds installed, sping compressed to being virtually solid


Also, for anyone experiencing the slide locking back on a loaded mag with certain rounds (noted in Hickok45's video), check out these pics.
Looks like the slide stop may touch on certain bullet profiles. The tip of it is actually under the round pictured from a straight angle. I included a pic of my 19 for comparison.
If this actually becomes an issue for some, it looks like it could easily be fixed.


1/25/2014 2:35:22 PM EDT
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Glock single stack mags.
1/25/2014 2:36:10 PM EDT
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For those of you w/ 42's, anyone have or shot PM/CM9, what's the recoil difference? I know .380 vs. 9mm is apples to oranges but looking for something lightweight and shootable for my wife. She already shoots the Glocks well, have P3AT/LCP(lightweight but not real shootable, she would like a little more to hold on to). Don't like the kahr trigger as much as the Glock, not sure about reliability w/ the Kahrs, PF9 and DB9 are out for reliability issues and triggers, everything else is almost as heavy as the 26/27.(width is not an issue)
1/25/2014 3:28:24 PM EDT
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For those of you w/ 42's, anyone have or shot PM/CM9, what's the recoil difference? I know .380 vs. 9mm is apples to oranges but looking for something lightweight and shootable for my wife. She already shoots the Glocks well, have P3AT/LCP(lightweight but not real shootable, she would like a little more to hold on to). Don't like the kahr trigger as much as the Glock, not sure about reliability w/ the Kahrs, PF9 and DB9 are out for reliability issues and triggers, everything else is almost as heavy as the 26/27.(width is not an issue)
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We've had a PM9 & CM9, and had zero issues with either. The only drawbacks are they can be difficult to charge (racking the slide), and they have the longer trigger pull (which is awesome btw, if you like a traditional double action pull). They can be snappy in 9mm, but are IMO easier to shoot then the mini 380's (LCP, BG380, ect.). I'll also add that they can be extremely accurate for their size. As for comparing it to the G42, like you said, apples to oranges, the 380 in the G42 is one of the softest recoiling mini-type guns I've ever shot. My wife went thru the LCR, LCP, BG380, PF9 (I know, but ours was excellent), PM9/CM9, and eventually settled on a G26. As soon as she saw the G42 she knew she had to have one to try, and she absolutely loves it.

ETA: Wanted to add that from time to time people can have issues with the Kahr mags. Seems like one area Kahr never was able to figure out 100%.
1/25/2014 3:40:04 PM EDT
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We've had a PM9 & CM9, and had zero issues with either. The only drawbacks are they can be difficult to charge (racking the slide), and they have the longer trigger pull (which is awesome btw, if you like a traditional double action pull). They can be snappy in 9mm, but are IMO easier to shoot then the mini 380's (LCP, BG380, ect.). I'll also add that they can be extremely accurate for their size. As for comparing it to the G42, like you said, apples to oranges, the 380 in the G42 is one of the softest recoiling mini-type guns I've ever shot. My wife went thru the LCR, LCP, BG380, PF9 (I know, but ours was excellent), PM9/CM9, and eventually settled on a G26. As soon as she saw the G42 she knew she had to have one to try, and she absolutely loves it.

ETA: Wanted to add that from time to time people can have issues with the Kahr mags. Seems like one area Kahr never was able to figure out 100%.
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For those of you w/ 42's, anyone have or shot PM/CM9, what's the recoil difference? I know .380 vs. 9mm is apples to oranges but looking for something lightweight and shootable for my wife. She already shoots the Glocks well, have P3AT/LCP(lightweight but not real shootable, she would like a little more to hold on to). Don't like the kahr trigger as much as the Glock, not sure about reliability w/ the Kahrs, PF9 and DB9 are out for reliability issues and triggers, everything else is almost as heavy as the 26/27.(width is not an issue)


We've had a PM9 & CM9, and had zero issues with either. The only drawbacks are they can be difficult to charge (racking the slide), and they have the longer trigger pull (which is awesome btw, if you like a traditional double action pull). They can be snappy in 9mm, but are IMO easier to shoot then the mini 380's (LCP, BG380, ect.). I'll also add that they can be extremely accurate for their size. As for comparing it to the G42, like you said, apples to oranges, the 380 in the G42 is one of the softest recoiling mini-type guns I've ever shot. My wife went thru the LCR, LCP, BG380, PF9 (I know, but ours was excellent), PM9/CM9, and eventually settled on a G26. As soon as she saw the G42 she knew she had to have one to try, and she absolutely loves it.

ETA: Wanted to add that from time to time people can have issues with the Kahr mags. Seems like one area Kahr never was able to figure out 100%.

Thanks for the info, confirmed what I thought, looks like I'll be getting my wife a 42 to try.
1/25/2014 3:59:31 PM EDT
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Thank you for posting internal pics.
1/25/2014 6:46:26 PM EDT
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I wouldn't mess with the baseplate, it's actually the fully compressed spring that prevents another round from being inserted.

6 rounds inserted, lots of room, I threw in the floorplate insert for another angle
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/38/8qs5.jpghttp://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/600/3toj.jpg

7 rounds inserted, still plenty of room for the baseplate & floorplate insert, very little to nothing left for the spring though
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/27/oad7.jpghttp://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/706/yyv3.jpg


6 rounds installed, sping compressed to being virtually solid
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/541/zglw.jpg

Also, for anyone experiencing the slide locking back on a loaded mag with certain rounds (noted in Hickok45's video), check out these pics.
Looks like the slide stop may touch on certain bullet profiles. The tip of it is actually under the round pictured from a straight angle. I included a pic of my 19 for comparison.
If this actually becomes an issue for some, it looks like it could easily be fixed.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/199/5oe9.jpghttp://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/69/uiun.jpg
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Nice post and you saved me from possible jacking up a follower!
1/25/2014 7:07:09 PM EDT
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Glad to be of help. I had the dremel out making a small kydex trigger guard cover for the gun, and I was considering modding the mag, until I saw how it worked. If I had access to an extra baseplate & spring I might mess around, but until then, nah. I'd like to see Glock make a +1 factory floorplate (I don't mess with aftermarket floorplates, just my opinion). My wife can get a full grip on the G42, but my pinky hangs off. I'd buy a few to mess around with on spare mags.
1/26/2014 12:57:10 PM EDT
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Tag for updates
1/26/2014 5:33:15 PM EDT
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WRONG, my G26 Gen4 came with (3) 10-Round magazines.
1/26/2014 7:07:31 PM EDT
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Yes I think that it is the reason why some rounds are causing the slide lock lever to engage, at least in my G42.  Did it twice, once with gold dot and again with winchester t series
1/26/2014 8:01:54 PM EDT
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The rounds pictured are PDX1. We fired a box of 20 without any issues, also no issues with the 100 rounds of  Winchester white box FMJ we fired. I have a few hundred PPU FMJ I'm going to run thru it later this week. I'll update this if I find anything that activates the slide lock.
1/27/2014 5:30:14 PM EDT
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Mine cycled everything flawlessly except 10 year old RCBD ammo that my Colt couldn't digest either