Posted: 12/1/2013 4:59:05 AM EDT
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I would not shoot lead in an OEM barrel (also saying you can, without explaining or understanding the risks.... is less than a valuable or helpful statement).
FMJ/TMJ/CMJ's should not be an issue however, even plated bullets that stay below the max velocities have been fine. Shoot mostly indoors, so lead bullets is something I stay away from. ~g |
, but an aftermarket barrel with conventional rifling will have no more trouble with lead than any other gun.|
Is shooting any reloaded ammunition recommended by Glock? No
Is shooting cast lead reloads recommended by Glock? No Do cast lead bullets lead polygonal barrels? Yes, they can and do a little Is this a major problem for shooting lower pressure cast lead reloads? No, not really. In my experience after about 200 rounds the leading seems to become self limiting. I even tested to see what would happen if i shot some FMJ's after 300 rounds of cast lead. It was pretty clean. So now on my last stage I just shoot all FMJ and that makes cleaning much easier. I would not shoot hot loads made with cast bullets however, that is where the pressures start to spike and can be destructive. Is it messy and dirty? Yes, between the lead and the lube it is much dirtier and will require more cleaning than shooting FMJ. How hard is it to clean the lead out of an OEM Glock barrel? Not hard. Swab with MPRO7 let sit for a few minutes a then put a wad of steel wool on a jag and push it from chamber end to muzzle. Repeat this process a few times and it is clean. Polygonal barrels do not have deep lands and grooves and are highly polished so the lead is really much easier to remove than a standard cut rifling. Do lead bullets shoot poorly out of an OME Glock barrell? No, in my experience there is no difference than shooting plated or FMJ. |
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I shoot a lot of cast bullets from our Glocks, BUT I am also using aftermarket barrels. Also I am not reloading to max PSI for 'normal' practice shooting. Is it a little dirtier, yes, but I clean them after each shooting session so not an issue for me. I also shoot at an indoor range during the winter and have not had too many issues. Besides with the shooting that I wife and I do, it is a lot cheaper to shoot cast bullets over jacketed ones.
I know of no makers of firearms the say it is OK to shoot reloads in their weapons. The gun makers have NO control over how reloads are built, hence they will not back them. |
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I shoot a lot of cast bullets from our Glocks, BUT I am also using aftermarket barrels. Also I am not reloading to max PSI for 'normal' practice shooting. Is it a little dirtier, yes, but I clean them after each shooting session so not an issue for me. I also shoot at an indoor range during the winter and have not had too many issues. Besides with the shooting that I wife and I do, it is a lot cheaper to shoot cast bullets over jacketed ones. I know of no makers of firearms the say it is OK to shoot reloads in their weapons. The gun makers have NO control over how reloads are built, hence they will not back them. I am really surprised they allow you to shoot cast bullets indoors. That is a huge no-no here. |
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What is also interesting is the 'old guys' that shoot cast bullets on Wed night. They reload cast bullets at 'reduced' velocities and shoot them out of their hunting rifles. They are shooting at 25 yards at a target that has 1.5" circles on them. All shooting is off hand and you can use what ever sights/scope that you want. I believe that the 'youngest' one is about 72 and one of the 'older' members is 90, and still shooting!
A few years ago, we did a major upgrade to the air handling system and it makes shooting most any ammo nicer. Quoted:
I am really surprised they allow you to shoot cast bullets indoors. That is a huge no-no here. Quoted:
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I shoot a lot of cast bullets from our Glocks, BUT I am also using aftermarket barrels. Also I am not reloading to max PSI for 'normal' practice shooting. Is it a little dirtier, yes, but I clean them after each shooting session so not an issue for me. I also shoot at an indoor range during the winter and have not had too many issues. Besides with the shooting that I wife and I do, it is a lot cheaper to shoot cast bullets over jacketed ones. I know of no makers of firearms the say it is OK to shoot reloads in their weapons. The gun makers have NO control over how reloads are built, hence they will not back them. I am really surprised they allow you to shoot cast bullets indoors. That is a huge no-no here. |
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I have never used an after market barrel but tens of thousands of lead reloads- the key is to clean out the lead- a simple few passes with a brass bore brush seems to do the trick- every couple hundred rounds. As long as your reloads are properly assembled you won't hurt the glock. I take exception with the poster who said to shoot some jacketed at the end of a range session- this is bad advice and can be a source of problems. Once you lead up the bore ( therefore reducing bore diameter) they try to push a jacketed round with more bore resistance and pressure through it pressures can get excessive.
For the poster who asked about lead indoors- many ranges in my area were built like many decades ago when all shooting was bullseye with light lead bullet loads and most did not design the backstops to hold up with jacketed. In my area almost all indoor ranges prohibit use of jacketed ( one of the reasons my guns including glocks see a steady diet of cast bullets |