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7/16/2013 1:23:24 PM EDT
Anybody have one?How do you like it?I'm thinking of getting one but I can seem to locate one,any suggestions would be appreciated.
7/16/2013 2:28:02 PM EDT
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I've got a gen4, it's most excellent!

Fun to shoot, not fun to feed ammo... pricey and it can be a little difficult to find.

I got an early gen4 after seeing a review online, it took me a couple of weeks to realize they were blue label guns.  Local dealer had me one in a few days after realizing it was only available as a blue label.

I'd think your LGS should be able to locate one in a reasonable amount of time.

~g
7/16/2013 3:04:54 PM EDT
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I've got a gen4, it's most excellent!

Fun to shoot, not fun to feed ammo... pricey and it can be a little difficult to find.

I got an early gen4 after seeing a review online, it took me a couple of weeks to realize they were blue label guns.  Local dealer had me one in a few days after realizing it was only available as a blue label.

I'd think your LGS should be able to locate one in a reasonable amount of time.

~g


Thanks.What credentials do I need to order a blue label gun?
7/16/2013 3:26:29 PM EDT
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just get one.  you won't be disappointed.
7/16/2013 3:27:26 PM EDT
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I've got a gen4, it's most excellent!

Fun to shoot, not fun to feed ammo... pricey and it can be a little difficult to find.

I got an early gen4 after seeing a review online, it took me a couple of weeks to realize they were blue label guns.  Local dealer had me one in a few days after realizing it was only available as a blue label.

I'd think your LGS should be able to locate one in a reasonable amount of time.

~g


Thanks.What credentials do I need to order a blue label gun?


what is a blue label gun?
7/16/2013 3:36:33 PM EDT
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I've got a gen4, it's most excellent!

Fun to shoot, not fun to feed ammo... pricey and it can be a little difficult to find.

I got an early gen4 after seeing a review online, it took me a couple of weeks to realize they were blue label guns.  Local dealer had me one in a few days after realizing it was only available as a blue label.

I'd think your LGS should be able to locate one in a reasonable amount of time.

~g


Thanks.What credentials do I need to order a blue label gun?


what is a blue label gun?


LEO/MIL only guns I believe,I'm not quite sure myself,and I've owned about a bazzilion glocks over the years.
7/16/2013 4:54:12 PM EDT
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just get one.  you won't be disappointed.


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7/16/2013 5:53:46 PM EDT
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I've got a gen4, it's most excellent!

Fun to shoot, not fun to feed ammo... pricey and it can be a little difficult to find.

I got an early gen4 after seeing a review online, it took me a couple of weeks to realize they were blue label guns.  Local dealer had me one in a few days after realizing it was only available as a blue label.

I'd think your LGS should be able to locate one in a reasonable amount of time.

~g


Thanks.What credentials do I need to order a blue label gun?


Mil/LE/Glock Armorer/GSSF member (not sure about the GSSF anymore)!

~g


7/16/2013 6:42:21 PM EDT
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I've got a gen4, it's most excellent!

Fun to shoot, not fun to feed ammo... pricey and it can be a little difficult to find.

I got an early gen4 after seeing a review online, it took me a couple of weeks to realize they were blue label guns.  Local dealer had me one in a few days after realizing it was only available as a blue label.

I'd think your LGS should be able to locate one in a reasonable amount of time.

~g


Thanks.What credentials do I need to order a blue label gun?


Mil/LE/Glock Armorer/GSSF member (not sure about the GSSF anymore)!

~g




FF/EMT also applies.

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7/16/2013 7:47:04 PM EDT
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I got mine early on, you should not have an issue finding a non-blue label gen4!

~g
7/17/2013 7:48:30 AM EDT
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I got mine early on, you should not have an issue finding a non-blue label gen4!

~g


I'll call around and see what I can find.GlockMeister didn't even know they were out yet.
7/17/2013 7:58:08 AM EDT
[#11]
I don't have one. But I want one. I want both the G20 and the G29. Because...



7/17/2013 1:25:52 PM EDT
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Well,no luck at any of the local shops,I'd probably rather order it online anyway to avoid the 9.8% sales tax.Have there been any significant changes to the gen 4 outside the obvious gen 4 stuff?I can find G20sf models all over,I wouldn't be using a back strap on the gen 4 anyway.From what I've read,they redesigned the bbl and the RSA on the gen 4 g20,sound right?
7/17/2013 2:45:06 PM EDT
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Gen4 all the way!

~g
7/17/2013 6:38:30 PM EDT
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I might have to wait a while,but gen 4 it is.I already have a gen 3 20,but I prefer the slimmed down grip of the gen 4/SF models.
7/18/2013 1:44:57 PM EDT
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Never could stand the large frame Glocks, that is until I shot an sf frame.... then I waited and purchased gen4's when they became available... at this point I will probably even swap out my G29sf for a gen4 when the time comes.

~g
7/23/2013 1:24:56 PM EDT
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I found one,but it's the ten round model.If anyone has a bead on one in stock please let me know.
Thanks
7/23/2013 1:40:53 PM EDT
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Funny I can't find 10rnd G20 mags in CT, but you have them in AZ?  WTF?

~g
7/23/2013 1:56:55 PM EDT
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Online gunshop actually.ETA during the ban,they all came with 10 rounders,it was legal to own the standard mags here,but they ran about 100 bucks a pop.
7/23/2013 2:01:08 PM EDT
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LEO/MIL only guns I believe,I'm not quite sure myself,and I've owned about a bazzilion glocks over the years.
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I've got a gen4, it's most excellent!

Fun to shoot, not fun to feed ammo... pricey and it can be a little difficult to find.

I got an early gen4 after seeing a review online, it took me a couple of weeks to realize they were blue label guns.  Local dealer had me one in a few days after realizing it was only available as a blue label.

I'd think your LGS should be able to locate one in a reasonable amount of time.

~g


Thanks.What credentials do I need to order a blue label gun?


what is a blue label gun?


LEO/MIL only guns I believe,I'm not quite sure myself,and I've owned about a bazzilion glocks over the years.


Or GSSF member.
7/23/2013 2:02:25 PM EDT
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I've got a gen4, it's most excellent!

Fun to shoot, not fun to feed ammo... pricey and it can be a little difficult to find.

I got an early gen4 after seeing a review online, it took me a couple of weeks to realize they were blue label guns.  Local dealer had me one in a few days after realizing it was only available as a blue label.

I'd think your LGS should be able to locate one in a reasonable amount of time.

~g


Thanks.What credentials do I need to order a blue label gun?


what is a blue label gun?


LEO/MIL only guns I believe,I'm not quite sure myself,and I've owned about a bazzilion glocks over the years.


Or GSSF member.

Don't you have to be a member for a year before you can buy a blue label gun?
7/23/2013 2:05:15 PM EDT
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Yes you do, they changed the rules a couple of years ago.  It is worth the coin to join though.
7/24/2013 6:48:27 PM EDT
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I have a new Gen4 G20 in FDE.  Really like it so far.
7/25/2013 4:18:06 AM EDT
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/\  /\   Ya.  I was gonna say look at gunbroker.  I picked one up from there a while back. It was a Gen3 SF.  Really pleased.

When looking for ammo check out  ammoseek.com   and    gunbot.net
7/25/2013 2:06:11 PM EDT
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Thanks,I've never been a big GB fan,but it looks like I might go that way if nothing turns up shortly.
7/29/2013 8:44:15 AM EDT
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Well,I just bought one off GB.Now I need to dust off my dies and start loading some ammo,I'm looking forward to it.Thanks for all the help fellas.
7/29/2013 2:05:03 PM EDT
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I saw an FDE Gen 4 G20 at Cabelas.  I almost risked a divorce or at the very least a 6 month pie embargo.

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7/29/2013 2:15:54 PM EDT
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My little gen4 collection

The last I shot out the 10 was underwood 200gr xtp
Talk about nuclear
7/29/2013 4:30:08 PM EDT
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The last I shot out the 10 was underwood 200gr xtp
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Nice.Do you use a heavier recoil spring for the stout rounds?
7/29/2013 4:36:52 PM EDT
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blue label is now, fire, emt, RN , doctors, law enforcement, judges, security guards, corrections, military and retired military. GSSF will get a card every year they can turn in for a discounted glock but the price is not the same as the before mentioned. Normally about $40 more. Blue label glocks 3rd and 4th gen are $399 set by glock- with night sights $444.

Now days anyone can get a blue label it would seem. That is why resale value of glocks have tanked.
but you can get police trade glocks for around $330
7/29/2013 8:32:24 PM EDT
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The constant source of police trade ins don't help the value either.

7/30/2013 6:14:46 PM EDT
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best source of blue label pistols?


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blue label is now, fire, emt, RN , doctors, law enforcement, judges, security guards, corrections, military and retired military. GSSF will get a card every year they can turn in for a discounted glock but the price is not the same as the before mentioned. Normally about $40 more. Blue label glocks 3rd and 4th gen are $399 set by glock- with night sights $444.

Now days anyone can get a blue label it would seem. That is why resale value of glocks have tanked.
but you can get police trade glocks for around $330
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8/2/2013 1:38:54 PM EDT
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I picked her up today,the gun feels great.I do have one question for those in the know..I intend to run nothing but full tilt rounds through it,will the gen 4 RSA hold up to the abuse?I do have a LW guide rod with gen4 adapter and a 20lb spring but I'm not sold on the adapter setup,are there any other options?Thanks guys,here is a crappy pic of the new gun.
8/2/2013 4:42:05 PM EDT
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Stock RSA should be fine, the hot stuff is generally the carry ammo... an carry ammo is generally $$.$$ so I'm not sure how much of it you actually plan to shoot.  During a normal range visit I'll shoot a couple of hundred rounds, and maybe a magazine or two of my carry ammo.  Try and shoot my carry ammo on a monthly basis!

Congrats on the purchase!

~g
8/2/2013 4:51:21 PM EDT
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Check out Underwood Ammo for full power 10mm. The Gen4 "2-stage" recoil spring assembly is a little more forgiving with hot loads (less forgiving with weak crap).
8/2/2013 5:24:35 PM EDT
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I'm not sure what the weight on the stock spring is but if you're shooting full power loads I wouldn't hesitate to put a heavier spring in.

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8/2/2013 5:43:38 PM EDT
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My little gen4 collection
http://i.imgur.com/8OxW9l8.jpg
The last I shot out the 10 was underwood 200gr xtp
Talk about nuclear

Nice.Do you use a heavier recoil spring for the stout rounds?

Totally stock.
Ive shot 2 or 3 underwood loads as well as 2 or 3 buffalo bore offerings.
Never a problem
8/2/2013 5:45:41 PM EDT
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Ive shot everything from the 40 power (actually mostly that) to the full bore, with the stock setup. No jams, just great accuracy
8/2/2013 8:07:24 PM EDT
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Ive shot everything from the 40 power (actually mostly that) to the full bore, with the stock setup. No jams, just great accuracy
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Check out Underwood Ammo for full power 10mm. The Gen4 "2-stage" recoil spring assembly is a little more forgiving with hot loads (less forgiving with weak crap).

Ive shot everything from the 40 power (actually mostly that) to the full bore, with the stock setup. No jams, just great accuracy


Me too.  Have a Gen 3 20 that is mostly stock other than the trigger parts.  Got an order in for a blue label G-29 Gen 4.  Hope to hear Tuesday when they may have it in.
8/4/2013 5:19:28 PM EDT
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I'm not sure what the weight on the stock spring is but if you're shooting full power loads I wouldn't hesitate to put a heavier spring in.

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I believe that it's 17 lbs(I could be wrong though)I took it out this morning and fired 100 rounds of old DT 135 grn and 180 grn.The gun ran great,but with the warmer ammo and the stock RSA the brass had dings on it from the ejector,the 20 lb spring cured the dings,but I'll need a aftermarket bbl to keep the brass in a little better shape for reloading I'm thinking.Overall I'm really happy with it.
8/4/2013 6:06:23 PM EDT
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blue label is now, fire, emt, RN , doctors, law enforcement, judges, security guards, corrections, military and retired military. GSSF will get a card every year they can turn in for a discounted glock but the price is not the same as the before mentioned. Normally about $40 more. Blue label glocks 3rd and 4th gen are $399 set by glock- with night sights $444.

Now days anyone can get a blue label it would seem. That is why resale value of glocks have tanked.
but you can get police trade glocks for around $330
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NOT doctors, per the Glock website, fyi
8/4/2013 6:30:09 PM EDT
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I believe that it's 17 lbs(I could be wrong though)I took it out this morning and fired 100 rounds of old DT 135 grn and 180 grn.The gun ran great,but with the warmer ammo and the stock RSA the brass had dings on it from the ejector,the 20 lb spring cured the dings,but I'll need a aftermarket bbl to keep the brass in a little better shape for reloading I'm thinking.Overall I'm really happy with it.
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I believe that it's 17 lbs(I could be wrong though)I took it out this morning and fired 100 rounds of old DT 135 grn and 180 grn.The gun ran great,but with the warmer ammo and the stock RSA the brass had dings on it from the ejector,the 20 lb spring cured the dings,but I'll need a aftermarket bbl to keep the brass in a little better shape for reloading I'm thinking.Overall I'm really happy with it.


Do you mind taking a picture of the case support in the barrel?

Just curious if they've changed the 10mm barrels as much or at all due to the changes in the 40s.

Here's a comparison but I'm not sure how old this barrel is:



Source:  http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=5&f=28&t=117189
8/4/2013 6:37:35 PM EDT
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8/4/2013 6:40:36 PM EDT
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Do you mind taking a picture of the case support in the barrel?

Just curious if they've changed the 10mm barrels as much or at all due to the changes in the 40s.

Here's a comparison but I'm not sure how old this barrel is:

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu196/shibumiseeker/IMG_3789.jpg

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I believe that it's 17 lbs(I could be wrong though)I took it out this morning and fired 100 rounds of old DT 135 grn and 180 grn.The gun ran great,but with the warmer ammo and the stock RSA the brass had dings on it from the ejector,the 20 lb spring cured the dings,but I'll need a aftermarket bbl to keep the brass in a little better shape for reloading I'm thinking.Overall I'm really happy with it.


Do you mind taking a picture of the case support in the barrel?

Just curious if they've changed the 10mm barrels as much or at all due to the changes in the 40s.

Here's a comparison but I'm not sure how old this barrel is:

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu196/shibumiseeker/IMG_3789.jpg

Source:  http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=5&f=28&t=117189

It's definitely different than the gen 3 I had.I'll take a pic first thing tomorrow.
8/5/2013 5:43:15 AM EDT
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This is the best shot I could get of it,I'll try to get a pic of the brass after work.It really is a sweet pistol.
8/6/2013 9:55:32 AM EDT
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That does look pretty good compared to the old ones.
8/6/2013 1:49:26 PM EDT
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The brass looks a lot better than it did with my stock bbl in the Gen3 20 I had.I kind of wish I hadn't sold it so I could compare the two.I'm sure the aftermarket bbls have a slightly tighter chamber which would probably extend the life of the brass,but I really don't know for sure.I'll probably only load the hot rounds in virgin brass anyway.
8/15/2013 4:33:36 PM EDT
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I've got a gen4, it's most excellent!

Fun to shoot, not fun to feed ammo... pricey and it can be a little difficult to find.

I got an early gen4 after seeing a review online, it took me a couple of weeks to realize they were blue label guns.  Local dealer had me one in a few days after realizing it was only available as a blue label.

I'd think your LGS should be able to locate one in a reasonable amount of time.

~g


Thanks.What credentials do I need to order a blue label gun?


Mil/LE/Glock Armorer/GSSF member (not sure about the GSSF anymore)!

~g




FF/EMT also applies.

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what about Search and Rescue? quite a few of us carry during training and on missions. lots of bear around these parts.