Posted: 8/26/2012 9:58:21 AM EDT
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Yesterday, I fired 350 rounds of 9mm through my "BRM" prefix Gen 2 G19. The ammunition was Independence 115 gr. FMJ, PMC 115 gr. FMJ, and the 147gr. Speer GD.
I started with the PMC, and on my second magazine I experienced what I believe to be the "phase 3 malfunction." After this, the gun functioned flawlessly for the rest of the day. What is the recommended course of action to take with this problem? I bought the gun used and am unsure of previous round count. I've probably put 600 rounds through the gun now with no other problems. Thanks! |
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Thank you very much. I inspected my extractor (it is a 15 degree version) and although it had a bunch of crap caked on, it does not seem to be damaged in any way. My recoil spring, however, seems to be a little weak. I will replace the recoil spring pronto. I'm not 100% sure if this is the "phase 3," but I did experience the horizontal stovepipe. I was able to clear it by hand. |
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Thank you very much. I inspected my extractor (it is a 15 degree version) and although it had a bunch of crap caked on, it does not seem to be damaged in any way. My recoil spring, however, seems to be a little weak. I will replace the recoil spring pronto. I'm not 100% sure if this is the "phase 3," but I did experience the horizontal stovepipe. I was able to clear it by hand. I wouldn't worry about too much of anything, given that you had only one failure in 350 rounds. Could have been a round of that cheap ammo, and you might have limpwristed just at that moment. Installing a new recoil spring will exacerbate any limpwristing that you might try in the future. I'd detail strip, clean and PROPERLY lube that G19 and just shoot eleventy-zillion more rounds through it. |
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Thank you very much. I inspected my extractor (it is a 15 degree version) and although it had a bunch of crap caked on, it does not seem to be damaged in any way. My recoil spring, however, seems to be a little weak. I will replace the recoil spring pronto. I'm not 100% sure if this is the "phase 3," but I did experience the horizontal stovepipe. I was able to clear it by hand. I wouldn't worry about too much of anything, given that you had only one failure in 350 rounds. Could have been a round of that cheap ammo, and you might have limpwristed just at that moment. Installing a new recoil spring will exacerbate any limpwristing that you might try in the future. I'd detail strip, clean and PROPERLY lube that G19 and just shoot eleventy-zillion more rounds through it. There was stuff in the slide that's not supposed to be there, I think. The feed ramp was pretty gummed up too. I'm thinking this might have been a culmination of contributing factors (or so I hope). This is the only problem I've had in 700 rounds. |
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A Phase 1 malfunction is a malfunction that can be cleared by "tap, rack."
A Phase 2 malfunction is a malfunction that can be cleared be "lock, rip, rack, reload." A Phase 3 malfunction is a catastrophic malfunction that cannot be cleared by the operator without excessive time and/or tools/armorer. The term became popular because of a specific stoppage experienced by NYPD. The stoppage wedges the casing in so tightly that the user cannot clear it easily. It usually required some type of prying tool to clear the malfunction; therefore it was classified as a "Phase 3 malfunction." You were able to clear your stoppage and based on your description, you experienced a Phase 2 malfunction. |
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A Phase 1 malfunction is a malfunction that can be cleared by "tap, rack." A Phase 2 malfunction is a malfunction that can be cleared be "lock, rip, rack, reload." A Phase 3 malfunction is a catastrophic malfunction that cannot be cleared by the operator without excessive time and/or tools/armorer. The term became popular because of a specific stoppage experienced by NYPD. The stoppage wedges the casing in so tightly that the user cannot clear it easily. It usually required some type of prying tool to clear the malfunction; therefore it was classified as a "Phase 3 malfunction." You were able to clear your stoppage and based on your description, you experienced a Phase 2 malfunction. Thank you for the clarification. I'm glad I misidentified that problem! Still new to Glocking and auto pistols in general. 
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