Posted: 12/18/2004 12:10:32 PM EDT
| Is this trigger any good for a CCW Glock or should it be left for range/target shooting only? It will be in a model 19 or 26. |
| I would leave it alone. You can learn to shoot very accuratly with the standard trigger weight and not risk any pocket AD's. Keep all the bells and whistles for your range gun and leave the EDC gun as the tool it was intended to be. The only thing I have added to my G26 is night sights |
In order to do that you'll have to buy the whole gun. Glock does not sell the 3.5lb connectors by themselves. Your only option is after market brands. |
Ummmm........You can buy GENUINE Glock Inc 3.5lb connectors from www.glockmeister.com, www.topglock.com and www.lonewolfdist.com for around $20 each. Over the last 10 years I've probably purchased 10 or so. |
Try again junior. I just had the 3.5lb job installed on my G17 on Sunday at the WPB Gunshow. $40 installed. The Glock Armorer warned me about aftermarket connectors and also advised me that all of his Glocks have the 3.5lb connector. I hope to see my groups shrink now that the mushy 5.5lb connector has been replaced with the 3.5lb. I've never really liked Glock triggers, but that's about to change. HS1 |
Let's see if this works or not.  I've been a certfied Glock armorer now for 7 years. As you can see on my last parts list Glock does not sell the 3.5lb connectors. Only to L.E. agencies. I would question the armorer that worked on your gun and ask to show you his parts list. Then have him or her explain how you have a genuine part. Junior  |
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So how would you replace the connector in a Glock 34 if I'm not LE? (Not that it would really break or anything) But the stock connector in the 34 is the 3.5 and IF it needed replacing how could you replace it if I'm not LE? ETA On another note it should be mentioned that the 3.5lb connector does NOT yield a 3.5lb trigger, it ends up being more like 4.5-5lbs. |
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Just got off the phone with Glock because I was curious how this works too. I was told that you can order a genuine part from Glockmeister but in the same conversation I was told that part could only be sold to L.E. agencies and that as a certified armorer I could not even order one. I asked them to explain to me then how does Glockmeister get the connectors? Was told, "maybe they order them directly from Austria." I'll try to contact the N.W. Law Enforcement district manager for Glock and get a better explaination. |
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reddog132, I'm not a Glock Armorer but I know some who have ordered the (-) connectors from Glock. maybe there has been a policy change. There are certainly still a bunch of them around for sale. All five of my glocks have them. I also use a Wolff lightweight striker spring in my 34 for IDPA. I do not use the light striker spring in my 19, 17 and 27 carry guns. My other Glock is a 17 frame with a AA 22LR conversion on top. |
So if they are imported from different sources are they genuine parts? What sources are you talking about gotm4? Not trying to argue with you just want to get to the bottom of this. Either they come from Glock Inc., (and they say they don't sell them) or the Glock factory in Austria to be genuine. Correct? I can't recall how long Glock has said they don't sell the connectors to the average Joe, but in the 7 years as being an armorer I'm thinking it has always been that way. (I could be wrong. ) Unless someone is pulling them out of the G34/G35 models or getting them through L.E. agencies not sure. The maritime cups are suppose to be L.E. sale only as well. Maybe those items are not controlled very well at Glock.
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Have any of you guys tried the Scherer 3.5# connector in your Glocks? I have installed them in all of my Glocks and I really like the feel and break of the trigger (lighter and crisper), compared to the normal Glock 5# connector. I highly recommend them. It is a direct drop in part, just like the Glock OEM 3.5# connector is (no modifications/fitting required like some of the Ghost Rocket ones). A lot of folks on GT use and recommend the Scherer 3.5# connector also, which is why I switched over (from the Glock #5 connector) and started using Scherer's connecter about a year ago or so. Numerous people on GT that have used both the Glock OEM 3.5# connector and the Scherer 3.5# connector stated that they thought the Scherer connector felt more crisp (not as mushy) than the Glock one. I personally have never tried a Glock OEM 3.5# connector in any of my Glocks, nor fired a Glock with one installed, so I can't say one way or the other, which one feels better. No, I don't work for Scherer, hought www.lonewolfdist.com./products.asp?prod=117&curRecIdx=21 AZGlock13 (G17, G19, G20, G21, G23, G26) |
| Haven't tried a Scherer, but have tried a Alchemy Arms and it sucked and would reset about 10% of the time. My favorite aftermarket ones are the ones from Ghost. In my G21 I put a 3.5lb Ghost Rocket and I think it feels 'crisper' too. I had a Ghost Ranger 4.5lb connector in the G30 that I justed traded for my new to me G20. |
My question in my previous post still stands. |
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I never heard of Alchemy Arms connectors, but from what you say, I'm not missing much.haven AZGlock13 (G17, G19, G20, G21, G23, G26) |
The ones I've purchased from Glockmeister have all been indistinguisable from my stock G34 3.5lb connector. I guess they could be counterfiet, but they are that close that I can't tell the difference between them. If you want to test the metal CSI style be my guest, I'll see if I can find one that I'm not using. I'm certain they are real. All have worked 100% in then 10yrs I've used them. Since G34s and 35 are still manufactured maybe someone at Glock outside of the US is buying them or stealing them and sending them here. Who knows? |
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Couldn't get a hold of Glen Wisser but I spoke to someone at Glock in the L.E. sales division. I was told that Glock has never sold the 3.5lb. connectors as parts. I asked if Glockmeister buys their connectors from Glock in Austria and was told, "not sure but most of the connectors on the market are after market brands." I agree with you gotm4 that the ones sold at glockmeister, topglock, and lonewolf look and probably function as well as the geninue glock connectors. Maybe they are the real deal and are bought from Glock in Austria but until proven otherwise I'll stand by my orginial post. ETA. I think this is a stupid policy Glock has in place. |
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If you get one be sure to practice with it cause it's a lighter trigger. You'll still be at a 4lb trigger though so dont worry about CCW issues, but DO get a Glock part, not that aftermarket junk. I bought a ghost rocket 3.5 thinking "I shoulden't be doing this, it ain't a Glock part!" Sure enough it didn't line up with the channel that it lays in during reset. I took it back and will be ordering an original Glock part. Word to the wise, Dont put aftermarket trigger parts on your Glock! |
Did you not read this entire thread? Unless the business buys their 3.5lb connectors from Glock in Austria (which is unlikely)or pulls them out of other model G34/35 guns, you will not have an orginial Glock connector. Glock Inc., does not sell 3.5lb connectors to anyone but L.E. agencies. There's probably very good after market connectors that look and function as the orginial Glock connectors but they're not the real deal. But I'm sure some are being sold as orginial Glock. By the way what part of the state are you from Boom_Stick? |
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There are 3.5 pound original Glock connectors avilable everywhere. I have one I purchased from Glockmeister and several that came from Ebay. I cannot distinguish them from the connector in my 34 or the 35 I had. If they are fakes they are outstanding. I have my doubts that all of these came from Europe. |
| Well you can not get the 3.5 from Glock in the US, the ones in the us are made by Glock and coming in from overseas. Glock standard 3.5's can be bought in large quanties for about $16 each and sell retail for $20 to $25. THe other choice is Ghost Trigger Connectors. You can get a standard 3.5 for $13 Retail or you can get them with Ghost's Patented self cleaning debris channel for $22 and change. If this sounds like a sales pitch...it is!!! I'm the midwest distributer for Ghost Trigger Connectors. You can find my wes site @ www.okgunworks.com and if you choose to order from me use the coupon code ar15.com when checking out I'll take the shipping off (save ya $5). But if you are looking for THE BEST GLOCK TRIGGER out there don't leave the web site without looking over the Rocket. It takes out all the overtravle and makes the reset almost instant. There are instructions for installing them on the site. They should be installed by a gunsmith, but anyone with half a brain and a orange slide cover plate can do it. And don't worry if you mess the Rocket up while nstalling it, send it back to me and I'll send you a new one NO CHARGE....Mac questions e mail me @ [email protected] |
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I think one of the key issues that everyone is missing is that all of the major Glock parts sites are run by people that worked for guess who? ...Glock... I am sure that they made contacts that we never could and can easily purchase items on the "do not sell list". I am a Glock Armorer and the glock reps talked openly in class about the "parts people" and that they do sell genuine Glock parts. That most have either contacts or purchased large quantities prior to leaving Glock. I have purchased some 3.5# connectors from a fellow in Florida.. if they are fake, they are an exact replica, down to fit and finish. He said he has a rep in Europe that can buy them direct from Glock and he just ships them across the pond for him. It ain't Rocket Science people.... |
| I'm a Glock armorer as well and I don't even try to find the factory 3.5 connector. The Ghost standard 3.5lb connector, is better and cheaper. You arn't paying for someone to ship it from GA overseas and then back to the US. Then they end up costing $20 or so. The Ghost standard 3.5 is $13, made in the USA, and it's electro polished. I've got tons of the "factory" 3.5's I have taken out of guns to put Ghost Rockets in and I sel them used for the same $13 because they are "factory". funny part is, they are no better or worse than the Scherer triggers which can be found for $10 to $14 all over the net. That's just how I feel about it, not as a guy selling Glock Parts, but as a guy that started selling Glock Parts because he loves Glocks. |
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I hope the $40 to install a connector included a couple of cases of K-Y! Detail stripping a Glock is so simple, that I'm convinced a DemocRAT could be trained to do it, given no time constraints. For anybody else, it's a matter of a few minutes. Detailed, illustrated instructions can be found at glockmeister.com and topglock.com. Glock factory 3.5# connectors are readily available. The fact that a Glock armorer can't order one from Glock is irrelevant to this discussion. I've tried most versions of the Ghost products. The Rocket works as advertised, but the trigger break is too mushy for me. The Ghost Ulitmate offers a much cleaner break, but no trigger stop. The Glock factory 3.5# connector is also way too mushy for me. I've run 150,000+ rounds through my Glocks, all equipped with Scherer connectors, with not one failure. I've found the Scherer connectors to give cleaner, crisper breaks than any other connectors I've tried so far. I wouldn't recommend any other of Scherer's products, but their connectors work just fine for me. I also tried the Alchemy Arms connectors, with dismal results....totally worthless. I carry a G26, daily, equipped with a Scherer connecotr, with all metal-to-metal contact parts of the firing mechanism having been polished by me, using a Dremel and Simichrome. Also use a Lonewolf trigger housing with the adjustable trigger stop setscrew. So far, so good. |
| There are complete instructions now on my website to install the Ghost Rocket, Complete stripping of the Glock, and the ".25 cent trigger job" You can find them all at www.okgunworks.com there are plenty of pictures as well. NOTE: DO NOT USE ANYTHING BIGGER THAN A 3/32" PUNCH TO TAKE YOUR GLOCK APART. a 1/4" punch will streach the wholes out. |
Hey I almost bought one from you on ebay. Bet you charge $5 for shipping, HA! Bought a real glock one for less with shipping. |